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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #165 on: May 20 2016, 09:28:28 AM »
Good call on the diff girdle Jason. I have the one from Jeremys car on mine. :)  Toss a pair of Moser axles in it before you tear a rear quarter up. Seen that happen too many times at the track.
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« Reply #166 on: May 20 2016, 10:19:33 AM »
The cross flow muffler? That would be tight!

Yes it's the 3 inch cross flow. Although when looking through the muffler, it's a straight clear shot thru to the drivers side exit.  I'm hoping to be able to adjust the angle of the muffler a little towards the fuel tank.  Will have to reposition the hangers for the exits but that's just drilling a few holes.  I'm not quite certain yet on which way to move the bar.  I'm hoping to move it towards the front of the axle.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #167 on: May 20 2016, 10:22:47 AM »
Good call on the diff girdle Jason. I have the one from Jeremys car on mine. :)  Toss a pair of Moser axles in it before you tear a rear quarter up. Seen that happen too many times at the track.

I bought this girdle a couple of days before selling the white T.  Been sitting ever since then and since I'm waiting on Bison for the 6262 and Bob Bailey for the TR6, I figured I needed to do something on the car.  Axles are on the list
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« Reply #168 on: May 21 2016, 05:33:06 PM »
I run the RJC exhaust and love the way it sounds. Did you use band clamps Jason?

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« Reply #169 on: May 21 2016, 06:07:24 PM »
I run the RJC exhaust and love the way it sounds. Did you use band clamps Jason?
I used band clamps on the down pipe and the intermediate pipe where it connects just before going over the axle by the drive shaft.  It does sound good doesn't it
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« Reply #170 on: June 07 2016, 11:01:35 PM »
Drove the limited to work today with no issues.  On the way home it was around 90 degrees and muggy. I started watching the coolant temp to see the effects of the front mount. 170.6 is what it hung steady at on the curves and hills of east range road.  Even after getting on hwy 36 and getting up to 70 it still hung at 170.6. Came to a stop light by the house and temp starts to go down. Fans were running since temp went above 167. I'm beginning to believe that the dual intrepid fans are a restriction at speed.  I may need to rig me a kill switch to the fans. What do y'all think?
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #171 on: June 07 2016, 11:14:10 PM »
It could be blocking some air flow
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« Reply #172 on: June 07 2016, 11:39:39 PM »
If all you're seeing is 170 degrees in the heat of the day...then I wouldn't worry about it.
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« Reply #173 on: June 07 2016, 11:46:28 PM »
If all you're seeing is 170 degrees in the heat of the day...then I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #174 on: June 08 2016, 09:45:55 AM »
Heat makes power. 170* sounds pretty good to me. I saw  my first car dealer temp in three digits yesterday. How does it do in traffic? Mine will be up above 200*. I guess I need some intrepid fans.
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« Reply #175 on: June 08 2016, 10:38:54 AM »
170 is good I have a switch on mine to switch to high speed if mine starts to get hot even seems to help at 75 mph or 120kph for us Canadians
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« Reply #176 on: June 08 2016, 10:48:42 AM »
Just for testing purposes, I think I'll rig a temporary on/off switch and see what happens at highway speeds.  I can see it cooling down at the stop lights so I'm happy with that part of it so far.  I would prefer that the fans were not running all the time when temps are above the fan turn on threshold of 167 if enough air is passing through radiator.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #177 on: June 10 2016, 02:37:29 PM »
Well I'm a little hacked off. 

Bob Bailey sends me a message that he has bench tested the TR6 module and couldn't find anything wrong and just now sends me a message that he ran it on his car to lunch and back with no issues.  "Must be the cam sensor timing in your car," he says.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #178 on: June 10 2016, 02:54:32 PM »
well that sucks the plug from the harness to the cam sensor is good? I had to re pin mine and I did not notice this issue prior to installing my TR6 there was a broken wire that would interrupt the signal as far as I can tell its all good now.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #179 on: June 10 2016, 06:52:58 PM »
Well I've calmed down a bit.  Messaging back and forth with Bob and he has suggested the same things that I've already checked but I'll do it again and I'm going to pull each wire out of the loom to make certain.


Evidently the stock module is a less sensitive as to the cam phasing and the TR6 is less tolerant of a crappy cam sensor phase. He has some software that he's testing that is more like the stock module but it's still in testing. He mentioned retensioning the pins in the connector as the stock modules are a tad thicker than the pins on the TR6.  We'll see


On a good note, Bison shipped my 6262 yesterday. 
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