Won't Start

[earlbrown]

Earl is the Allstate guy!

Close. I'm the Mayhem guy! 

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Bill, thanks for the "Congrats".  And thank you for all your help as well.

[Steve Wood]

that's progress...onc e you can keep it running, we can start looking at other things

[Steve Wood]

double check the plug wires to be sure they are on the right plugs and coil terminals...ma ke sure the coil/module is firmly bolted to the bracket and the bracket is bolted tightly to the intake

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Roger, it's going to take a bit though, I have to get my dash back together first and with the week coming up, work calls. 

I'll post as soon as I get all this taken care of.  Thanks again.

[Steve Wood]

anytime!

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Well now, after putting my dash back together and all.  I still had to barely put my foot on the gas to keep the car running.  It also still sounded like it had a miss.  I looked at all the plugs, cleaned them and made sure that all the plug wires were correctly set and tight.

I was going to check the fuel pressure, however, before I could do that, I realized that my battery was draining very quickly.  This was not happening before.  I can't even keep a charge on the battery.  I noticed that all I have to do is open the door to create the massive draw on power.  I put a meter to the battery and it read normal charge.  I opened the driver door and it went down about 4 volts.  I dismantled the dash again to see if I pooched something.  Everything looked good.  I tried the test again, and still a 4 volt drop when I open the door. 

I have checked all the wires, especially the ones at the starter since I just got through messing with those.  Any suggestions would greatly appreciated.

[Steve Wood]

Something should blow or smoke with something like that kinda draw.  Almost sounds like a bad battery except I doubt it would crank over.

Okay, are you reading the voltage at the battery with a meter, or are you looking at the scanmaster voltage?

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Roger, no smoke or smell.  However, when I have the charger hooked to recharge the battery, I hear a buzzing sound when I open the door. 

I had to re-seat the battery cables as the bolts are stripped a bit.  I'll also make sure the grounds are good and the battery is recharged.  I'll check scanmaster voltage when the battery recharges.

[Steve Wood]

I want to know what voltage is being shown on both the battery with a meter and off the scanmaster display.

A four volt drop would require many amps and the act of opening the door should blow a fuse instantly if something is pulling that much current.  The buzz sounds like the convenience center chime to me but?

Pull the cig-clk fuse and see if things change

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Well, I recharged the battery and got everything hooked back up and tight.  I also made sure that the extra ground from the battery to the front quarter was hooked up and tight as well.  I had 12.3 volts at the battery from the meter.  I put the key in and turned the ignition to on and looked at the meter and I had 11.8, the scanmaster showed that I had 11.5.  This is with the door open and all.  Everything seemed to be working correctly now.  No big draw or anything.  ?

I am going to let the car sit and go mow the lawn.  I'll come back to it in a few and pull the cig-clk fuse as well.  Could this all stemmed from just a bad ground? 

I'll re-post here in a few.  Thanks for all your support.  I really owe you big.   

[Steve Wood]

yeah...but that battery does not look right to me

[Bob-Lob-Law]

Ok, I pulled the cig-clk fuse.  Everything seemed OK, all lights on and bright.  I then tried to turn the car over.  All the lights dimmed the went off and I heard a couple of clicks from the starter, that's it.  I'm guessing that I burned out the starter?

 

[Steve Wood]

No, your battery has a bad cell

[Bob-Lob-Law]

I have also noticed something else.  My power master breaks won't charge.  Since this is an 84 TType, am I missing a fuse or something that the power master needs?