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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #45 on: August 21 2012, 01:43:01 PM »
so it should work if it is wired up, map is good, etc.  Did you take your meter and see if you had a voltage on the wire from the map to the pl input block when the key is on as I mentioned on the page?  Check for 5.0 volts on the gray wire to the map when key is on?  Map ground wire is good?

Well I thought it did...I remember using your page to put this together.  Went and checked it today and I got 0 volts at the PL input block.  So, I tore off all of the electrical tape to make sure I tapped into the right wire or to see if had somehow broke where I soddered it together.  As soon as I ripped off all the electrical tape...I got 1.59 at the PL input block and 5.03 at the grey wire of the MAP (the ground is good too).  I taped it back up (not nearly as much, I must have used damn near a whole roll before) and re-checked it, still good.

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« Reply #46 on: August 21 2012, 02:42:06 PM »
Just looking the fuel regulator & something caught my eye. That looks like the home made adjustable top from a stocker. I have that kit here (was given to me) & it looks the same.
No writing & a big round top that's installed after the top is cut off the stock unit.
Never seen one assembled before but $10 says thats the same top that was given to me.
I know it's not an old adjustable Bosch because I also have one of them here.
The 4 side screws are what caught my eye.
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The sticker on AC shows a V-8 Carb car. Special order by Mr. Nick Hall VP of GM Canada
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #47 on: August 21 2012, 05:06:41 PM »
Just looking the fuel regulator & something caught my eye. That looks like the home made adjustable top from a stocker. I have that kit here (was given to me) & it looks the same.
No writing & a big round top that's installed after the top is cut off the stock unit.
Never seen one assembled before but $10 says thats the same top that was given to me.
I know it's not an old adjustable Bosch because I also have one of them here.
The 4 side screws are what caught my eye.

It was purchased from ATR in 2004.

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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #48 on: August 21 2012, 06:07:57 PM »
Maybe the Kit copied ATR?? I got it many years ago?  :chin: 
Either way they look Very Similar with the 4 screws & that top.
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #49 on: August 21 2012, 08:01:14 PM »
one of my cars has one...lotsa places sold that one
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« Reply #50 on: August 24 2012, 08:21:12 PM »
Well, that didn't go well...
 
 Something is not right.  When I first started it there was a little bit of the soot and water again (I was out of town for week so it sat again).
 
 
 Began to drive it and everything seemed to be fine.  I was taking it easy, nothing crazy.  Then, the tapping noise started again, couldn't get above 45MPH without the audible KR going off and I saw 4-5 on the SM.  Limped it home, the tapping noise got progressively worse as I went.  It felt like it was coming from underneath me, like I could feel it in the seat of my pants or at my feet. 
 
 At first I didn't think it was doing it at an idle, but I opened the hood and had my wife give it some gas and I swear it's coming from the top of the motor on the passenger side. 
 
 Bill wants me to take off the passenger side valve cover and see what the rocker assemblies look like (as if I know what the hell I'm going to be looking at).
 
 If not that, maybe the l/u converter? 
 
 I wish I didn't have to drive 5+ hours to find a shop that knows what they're doing...
 
 Oil pressure, water temp, RPM, seemed normal.  It's not throwing any codes, it's not smoking.
 
 I've attached what I hope is the .dat file and that it might show what's going on.
 
 http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/11/370244/gordy.dat

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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #51 on: August 24 2012, 08:56:25 PM »
so, warm it up til it starts the noise, then pull the valve cover...might be a lifter that won't stay pumped up once hot?
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #52 on: August 24 2012, 09:01:25 PM »
so, warm it up til it starts the noise, then pull the valve cover...might be a lifter that won't stay pumped up once hot?

Pulling that passenger side valve cover is easier said than done...

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« Reply #53 on: August 24 2012, 09:03:33 PM »
there are a lot of things on these cars that are easier said than done, but, newer cars are even worse :)
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #54 on: August 24 2012, 09:28:56 PM »
can you feel anything when touching the valve cover?
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« Reply #55 on: August 24 2012, 11:49:52 PM »
I'll try in the morning, what am I feeling for? 

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« Reply #56 on: August 25 2012, 09:30:44 AM »
the source of the noise...someth ing banging against the cover or near the interior of the cover
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« Reply #57 on: August 25 2012, 12:15:37 PM »
When you remove the cover look for any scratches or rub marks. Plus the obvious bent push rod etc.
If not there I would go to the converter bolts next.
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #58 on: August 26 2012, 03:16:29 PM »
How in the hell do you get the rear, bottom, passenger side bolt out of the valve cover!?!  These are aftermarket valve covers from Champion, and there is no way that rear bolt is coming out...there isn't enough clearance. 





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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #59 on: August 26 2012, 04:26:41 PM »
Did you undo the wire loom clip? 8mm or 10mm? Just under the bottom of loom clip (in the pic) is the bolt head. Pull the loom up & away. Altho with the taller Champions it will be harder, but I have stockers with RJC spacers (for roller rockers) & mine comes off. You could undo the motor mount bolt & jack it up an inch if nothing else works?
Also the back bolt for the VC just needs to be loose & can just sit in the VC as you pull it out.
« Last Edit: August 26 2012, 04:31:17 PM by Just a Six? »
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Doeskin leather, coach lites without Landau Roof, moon roof, carpeted trunk & No Factory Hood Ornament!
The sticker on AC shows a V-8 Carb car. Special order by Mr. Nick Hall VP of GM Canada
Runs 11.50 on 21 lbs with my old style 67 Q Trim & Alchy

 

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