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IHADAV8 Playground / Re: Another project
« on: July 08 2018, 02:19:01 PM »
Very nice.  Toss a China turbo on the 429 with a Holley Super Sniper EFI kit. Boom... done.  Gain all the extra cool points.

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 08 2018, 02:14:58 PM »
As far as "playing the game" I am not quite sure what you mean, but I can tell you that as a new vendor all you get is shittalking and people trying to fuck your connects up...Ive had people try to contact WORK and squeeze me out, and people literally LIE to companies to cause me to lose the ability to sell their products...

I don't know "playing the game" would be, but I don't think I'm doing it right, haha! I just be myself, and if people like that, cool. If not, cool. I genuinely believe that if someone was looking for a product and gave me a chance, they would see why everyone who has bought stuff off me has awesome stuff to say about their experience.

Between being the new company on the block, AND being younger than 95% of TR owners, it makes it difficult to earn people's business who have never heard of you.

That won't stop me, though. I'll let this new engine and setup show everyone what I am capable of :)
That is pretty much it.  The bag licking protectionism that happens on both sides of vending (TB.com, LS1tech.com, etc).  Those selling things, and those blindly defending those things they bought from those selling things.  This occurs because no one wants to be exposed as an underachiever or the follower of an underachiever.   The constant need to have vendors pander to the bottom line of a forum - acknowledging there is a lot of overhead in running a website - is absurd.  Vendor-bias undermines the community and the hobby at large, and risks making victims of its membership.
All that said:  Go get 'em, and report back!

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 08 2018, 11:55:17 AM »
Well if you aren't a member at Speedtalk, you should be. ;)

As for boost numbers... forget that noise - that is for BSing at Cars and Coffee.  The only thing I want to hear about is air flow into the engine - g/cyl, lb/min, g/sec, etc.  Even my TBSS running SD has an accurate MAF on it to show actual air flow.

Cam, heads, turbo are all part of the equation and must be matched; and while the old Buick recipes work - the lack of innovation or adoption of new technologies is extremely frustrating.  Especially when the old guard cock-blocks change.

Credit where credit is due - those who bring new product to market and "play the game" are to be commended - even if that isn't how things should work.

The number of "204/214 cam" threads at TB.com is hillarious - every asshat singing off the same sheet of music because of the vocal minority won't change their tune.

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 07 2018, 03:21:47 PM »
Got bored and ran a few common Comp Buick turbo V6 grinds through the Cam Motion calculator.  Overlap varies from -3* to -21*, that is a pretty substantial range; and can create issues when not appropriate for the application.  Jason's cam came in at -15*, IIRC.

A discussion on negative overlap cams:
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6989

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33508

http://www.speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52712

EDIT:  https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702425

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 06 2018, 03:22:52 PM »
When you are done fixing the turbos and intercoolers - please fix the camshafts used in these cars.  I don't think there has been a fresh grind using modern lobes and valvetrain data in what... 15-20 years?

PS. It is time to march off the old guard of vendors.
I know xfi lobes are nothing new but I believe the grind on my cam is on target to make some serious power.

Is it custom spec'd or is it another shelf grind from a vendor?  No cam is a one-size-fits-all for any application.  Shelf grinds are "close enough" solutions bought in bulk and sold on a snake oil premise.
Custom spec'd and I'll be glad to share the cam card. Here ya go. Notice the duration is opposite of the popular Rev-x 210-215

That is good to see.  I am mobile at the moment and cannot check the overlap - but... here's a neat tool to compare valve events with: http://www.cammotion.com/cam-timer

Obviously this doesn't account for lobe shape and ramp rates (factors impacting valvetrain stability) - but it does give you an idea if it is correct for the application.

Now take all those "classic" shelf grinds and plug them in... and I'd bet that between the antiquated theory they were ground against and the lobe profiles they are ground on that you'll discover some differences and issues compared to their contemporaries .

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 06 2018, 12:41:12 PM »
When you are done fixing the turbos and intercoolers - please fix the camshafts used in these cars.  I don't think there has been a fresh grind using modern lobes and valvetrain data in what... 15-20 years?

PS. It is time to march off the old guard of vendors.
I know xfi lobes are nothing new but I believe the grind on my cam is on target to make some serious power.

Is it custom spec'd or is it another shelf grind from a vendor?  No cam is a one-size-fits-all for any application.  Shelf grinds are "close enough" solutions bought in bulk and sold on a snake oil premise.

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Tech
« on: July 06 2018, 08:17:29 AM »
When you are done fixing the turbos and intercoolers - please fix the camshafts used in these cars.  I don't think there has been a fresh grind using modern lobes and valvetrain data in what... 15-20 years?

PS. It is time to march off the old guard of vendors.

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General Buick Tech / Re: This explains a lot
« on: June 18 2018, 03:20:29 PM »
perhaps you should state what your point is?  I'm a bit lost on this one.
I walked away from the bait... and keeping far far away from the bait.

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General Auto Tech / Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
« on: June 06 2018, 10:26:06 PM »
Proooopane. ;)

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General Buick Tech / Re: Turbo Exhaust Back Pressure
« on: June 05 2018, 11:32:52 AM »
It is pretty common for a 2" diameter crossover pipe/mid pipe to support ~1000hp.  You have to consider volume and velocity against the goals/application.

Personally I am building my turbo LS hotside with 2.5" pipes because it is just cheaper/easier based on what is on the market in stainless j-bends/reducers; not to mention goofy long tube upswept Chinese headers.  The mid-pipes are going to merge into a single 3" pipe into a T4 flange, and be vented by a 60mm waste gate.  I am running a 4" downpipe off the turbine housing which will connect to a single 3" exhaust (hopefully made out of aluminum), and will have a 4" dump.  On the intake side I am not running an intercooler as I plan to point the compressor right at the throttle body with a short length of 4" pipe and a 50mm BOV in between.  Obviously I am running it all on E85.  I figure adding a pressure transducer/MAP to measure the backpressure is pretty straightforwar d - could even run the math so it auto calculates the BP ratio in the scanner.

So while I am making a few compromises here and there, the ultimate goal is to minimize that variables that will influence spool time, hot and cold side restrictions, and backpressure.  Plus, lighter is better.  I've always wanted to go sans intercooler since I saw Bruce Plecan do it over a decade ago.

At the end of the day this "kit" should support a 4.8L engine as well as 454 stroker monster (which I will never be able to afford).  But 4.8s, 5.3s, 5.7s, 6.0s, and 6.2s from the yard should be plenty for my needs/goals for years to come.

Essentially, any restriction you remove will reduce your "boost" - which is just a measure of restriction anyway and is going to introduce more heat into the intake charge as it works against itself.  IMO, the best way to measure power is through mass air flow - it becomes pretty evident when your boost goes down but your calculated air flow goes up.  When running a MAF it is a more linear and logical air flow model to follow than a VE table.  My TBSS has a functioning MAF on it even though it is Speed Density tuned vehicle for this very reason.  Less heat is more better too.

I've recently considered "building" a VE table using my MAF.  Essentially I just need to log the MAF flow Hz against RPM and kpa and it should fall into place pretty easy.  I am interested to see what the predicted model of the VE (uses baro, IAT, CTS and some other crap IIRC) versus the measured air flow of the MAF, and if they overlay equally.

GM uses a blended or hybrid Operating System (OS) where it will validate itself using the MAF and VE below an engine speed threshold (say 4000rpm) for all fueling calculations (and will default to the VE table if the MAF fails), and will go "MAF-only" above that RPM threshold for all remaining fuel calculations.  Damn shame it isn't a Closed Loop OS.

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IHADAV8 Playground / Re: The Hobby Racer
« on: June 03 2018, 10:00:02 PM »
NP, Brad.  Yeah, I watched that video twice it was so cool to see him sling that HEMI like that.

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IHADAV8 Playground / Re: The Hobby Racer
« on: June 03 2018, 03:47:41 PM »
You nailed it.  NHRA has a habit of forgetting those guys that made them.  I'm not a big bracket racer fan, but, it's necessary.  What I hate are the electronic cars with a box in them...
No electronics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LMsBR1dsAs Dude can drive.

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General Auto Tech / Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
« on: June 01 2018, 08:15:17 PM »
Thanks everyone. Today is already better than yesterday.

What? They gave you an accidental penis enlargement too?

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General Auto Tech / Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
« on: May 31 2018, 08:47:26 PM »
Nice.  Here's to a quick recovery!

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