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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #195 on: April 26 2016, 01:36:58 AM »
Grinding the crank just means that they need to be cleaned up to get a good surface for the bearings to ride on.  You can bet on at least a .010 over sized bearing, possibly a bit bigger depending on how much material has to be removed.
Builder say maybe even. 020. I hope not. I would have to replace it down the road if I were to put some serious power down.



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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #196 on: April 26 2016, 01:38:15 AM »
It seems we often get sold things that are imaginary when we look.  All we can do is remember and not make the same mistake twice :)  I have a few of those t shirts.

Should be really nice when you get thru!
I'm really hoping so Steve. I hope I've made the correct decisions thus far. I'm probably going to take a week off when I get the motor back and dedicate my time to it.

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« Reply #197 on: April 26 2016, 01:41:08 AM »
Stumbled upon someone on facebook who is going to try these out. Kind of cool and can't beat the price. Wonder if it would wreak havoc on the knock sensor.

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« Reply #198 on: April 26 2016, 01:44:23 AM »
Is there anything special about knock sensors where I should pay 40ish from caspers compared to less than 20 at autozone or even an acdelco unit?

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« Last Edit: April 26 2016, 02:51:49 AM by deathraider6996 »
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #199 on: April 26 2016, 09:37:42 AM »
no....caspers is selling NOS sensors, I think... whereas the current stuff is supposed to be the same as the old...hopefull y it is.  Why are you replacing yours?
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #200 on: April 26 2016, 04:56:06 PM »
no....caspers is selling NOS sensors, I think... whereas the current stuff is supposed to be the same as the old...hopefull y it is.  Why are you replacing yours?
I don't want to leave a fresh rebuild in the hands of a old knock sensor. Do you happen to have the part number?

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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #201 on: April 26 2016, 08:35:54 PM »
Some times, I think I have more faith in the original parts than I do in the current production that is supposed to be exactly the same except made overseas  ? :)

Original number was 10456287   
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #202 on: April 26 2016, 11:32:44 PM »
Some times, I think I have more faith in the original parts than I do in the current production that is supposed to be exactly the same except made overseas  ? :)

Original number was 10456287
I'll do a little research then. :)

I know there was a possibility of the crank sensor being bad. Where can I find a good one of those?

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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #203 on: April 26 2016, 11:44:12 PM »
Don't think it was bad. Might have not been adjusted correctly. On the other hand, I suspect the crank was moving around and that was the root source. Crank sensors tend to be good or bad so look for a good price. Keep your old one for back up
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« Reply #204 on: April 27 2016, 12:19:33 AM »
Should I have brought my heads up to the builder? Don't they have to machine the mating surface to ensure proper seal around the head gaskets?

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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #205 on: April 27 2016, 08:26:30 AM »
They probably need a clean up skim to be sure they are flat as well as having the guides checked and maybe a valve job.   So yes
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #206 on: April 28 2016, 02:41:25 PM »
The standard auto crank sensor is good, Highway Stars if nowhere else.
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #207 on: May 01 2016, 01:58:06 PM »
I call bullshit on not being able to put down 'serious' power with a ground crank. Grumpy cracked the 9's on a 20/30 crank and I ran for 3 seasons every weekend well into the 11's with a 20/30 crank. I still have that rotating assembly here...and wouldn't think twice of putting it back into service after having it magnafluxed.
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« Reply #208 on: May 01 2016, 03:38:21 PM »
Billy Anderson has said he would run a 30/30 any day....
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Re: Knock, Knock, Whos There? Help!
« Reply #209 on: May 01 2016, 06:53:19 PM »
I don't think people put the thought into just how small .030 of an inch is. If it has rolled fillets, I'd run it.
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