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Title: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 16 2012, 10:26:10 PM
Installed turbo tweak chip today( motor hasn't been started yet). Everything seemed good. Ses light blinked once then sayed on, scan master came on and went into waiting mode. Turned the key on and off a couple times everything seemed good. Went to tuck ECM back into it spot and the orange power wire pulled out.i got the wire securely back into the plug and checked to make sure I had 12 volts to the pin connector but the ses light will not come on. The powers there but no ses light. I'm thinking I fried it. Can get my hands on another gn ECM but not till this weekend. Hoping it's something stupid. Any ideas?

Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on April 16 2012, 10:34:51 PM
I would not think you would have fried anything but I guess anything is possible.

Look at this http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/ecmwiring.htm (http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/ecmwiring.htm)  and tell me which wire pulled out.

Also go here and follow the tree for no SES   http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/No_SES_chart_1.htm (http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/No_SES_chart_1.htm)


Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 16 2012, 10:51:12 PM
C16 orange wire.
At first I had a hard time getting it back in, when I would plug into ECM it would push wire back out. I got it in and secure with 11.89 volts On the ECM side of plug.

Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on April 16 2012, 11:06:24 PM
okay, if it stayed in the connector, it should be making contact...go thru the trouble shooting tree and see how that comes out.

Guess, you will have to try both legs of the tree because you don't know if the engine will run, or not?

did you try disconnecting the orange wire at the battery to see it that will reset it?  Don't see how that is different from unplugging the connector, but??
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 16 2012, 11:16:30 PM
I disconnectted wire at battery.
I will start the trouble shooting tree when I get to the garage tomorrow.
Wish my garage was at my house. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Scoobum on April 16 2012, 11:33:27 PM
Anything is possible. I unplugged the two sets of wires that plug into the ECM...without unhooking the orange ECM wire first...and fried the ECM.
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 16 2012, 11:42:46 PM
I defiantly did that while trying to get a good connection on c16.
If I did fry it would that also ruin the new turbo tweak chip that was in it?

Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Scoobum on April 17 2012, 12:19:40 AM
My TT chip was okay.
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on April 17 2012, 09:24:53 AM
damn, I never think about unplugging the memory wire before popping the connectors.... not sure why that could fry one, but, stuff happens

shop manual never mentions to unplug it before removing the connectors for testing as I recall??
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: ULYCYC on April 17 2012, 10:20:21 AM
I've pulled the ecm, popped out chips and a host of other things with the key on and orange wire connected. Never fried a ecm. Maybe you got a bad TT chip, it happens. Put your old one back and try it.
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 17 2012, 10:39:28 AM
Tried the old chip as soon as I had the issue. With the tt chip everything was working(SES light and scan master went in to waiting mode) until the wire pulled out now nothing even with stock chip
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Scoobum on April 17 2012, 10:41:02 AM
If you've got a spare ECM....swap 'er in.
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: ULYCYC on April 17 2012, 10:42:32 AM
If one wire backed out of the ecm plug I would guess others may have. Pull all the plugs of of the ecm and tug on each wire and make sure they all are seated and no locks are broken.
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 17 2012, 10:56:06 AM
Gonna go recheck everything I did last night and hope I was overlooking something. Can get a ECM to swap in but not till this weekend. Almost thinking about just buying one and putting it on the shelf if its not the issue
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on April 17 2012, 11:02:04 AM
Crashed this car pretty good 9 years ago, ps headlight right back to the door. Did some damage to the harness and actually pulled the orange wire out. Had me scratching my head with the no start till I found that problem. I repaired the harness and have never had any issue in the 4 years I drove the car before doing the motor over. Hopin that it doesn't have anything to do with the repaires I made. Just puzzled with the fact everything was good till the wire pulled out
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: ULYCYC on April 17 2012, 02:19:07 PM
Knowing that I would really check out all the harness wiring. Look for water damage and also around the ecm area
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: larrym on April 17 2012, 05:30:45 PM
I had the same issue lost the power wire it was a pita to get back in and solder in place so it would not pull out again chances are it is not pugging into the ECM properly. did the wire pull out of the connector or the connector out of the harness?
 
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: gbsean on April 17 2012, 08:49:39 PM
check to make sure non of the grounds pulled out
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on May 07 2012, 08:11:30 PM
After not working on my car for a few weeks due to going back to work after a 4 month layoff(Union Ironworker), I found my problem. Bad connection on the power wire. Thanks for all the good advice guys
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2012, 08:17:41 PM
glad you found it, and glad you got back to work.  If you can find anyone to vote for that will actually encourage manufacturing in this country other than flipping burgers, vote for them/him/her
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: gbsean on May 07 2012, 08:22:41 PM
funny how many times an issue is solved by checking the ECM power wire....been there done that...

Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2012, 08:29:39 PM
Now if we can teach you that it is the ecm memory wire, we will be in tall cotton!  :D
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Ficco87gn on May 07 2012, 08:36:55 PM
Glad I actually decided to go to the garage after work and try to figure it out. Now I just need to adjust my new TPS and IAC and hopefully it will fire up and break in the cam.


Steve, I hear you. As my favorite sticker on my hard hat says " Put Americans To Work Buy American
Made
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2012, 08:39:43 PM
damn good sticker....
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: gbsean on May 07 2012, 09:50:56 PM
Now if we can teach you that it is the ecm memory wire, we will be in tall cotton!  :D

you knew what i meant...lol
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2012, 10:04:39 PM
yeah, but it is more fun to jab  you!
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: SuperSix on May 07 2012, 11:24:40 PM
Silly Brit
Title: Re: Did I fry my ECM
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2012, 11:25:45 PM
Silly Brit

Over there, they would say Silly Twit
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