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Add to window circuit?
« on: March 29 2012, 12:07:19 PM »
Among the other repairs for the woefully slow Regal power windows...

How about wiring something like this into the window circuit? You hit the window motor, it increases the alternator power output while the switch is pushed, and returns to regular operation once you release the switch.

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/projects/gnalt.html

Possible? Make sense?
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #1 on: March 29 2012, 02:56:55 PM »
It should work, replacing the switch with a relay driven from the window circuity.
You are exposing the whole car to this higher voltage. Window Speed vs voltage would be interesting to plot.
Get one of those voltage boosting supplies for fuel pumps and use it on the windows?


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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #2 on: March 29 2012, 03:21:19 PM »
It should work, replacing the switch with a relay driven from the window circuity.
You are exposing the whole car to this higher voltage. Window Speed vs voltage would be interesting to plot.
Get one of those voltage boosting supplies for fuel pumps and use it on the windows?

I would build the module - not complicated. Tuck it under the dash or something.

I seem to remember seeing that input voltage affects the speed - and the +12v factory supply wires are too small.
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #3 on: March 29 2012, 03:44:54 PM »
Measure the voltage drop across the wires, If significant put in bigger wires.
Better than buggering around with the alternator voltage.

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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #4 on: March 29 2012, 03:51:21 PM »
Measure the voltage drop across the wires, If significant put in bigger wires.
Better than buggering around with the alternator voltage.

Headlights brightening every time someone rolls a window....

Yep.

I plan to rewire the door. One of the bajillion projects I have planned is to rebuild the doors - I have 2 Kirban door repair kits and the booklet by that Pete guy. I will put in my speakers and rewire the doors at the same time.

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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #5 on: March 29 2012, 05:08:44 PM »
What does Mark Huffman's kit do?
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #6 on: March 29 2012, 06:16:48 PM »
get the alternator voltage to the door..no more gimmicks!
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #7 on: March 29 2012, 06:21:10 PM »
Spray silicone on all the tracks, rubbers and felts. It works wonders and the motor won't need exotic wiring.
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #8 on: March 29 2012, 07:26:09 PM »
Toll Booth in the winter- Where else is the window speed such a problem?
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #9 on: March 29 2012, 08:15:09 PM »
Spray silicone on all the tracks, rubbers and felts. It works wonders and the motor won't need exotic wiring.


exactly....mai ntenance....a long word but helps in many situations.... also clean all the contacts....

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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #10 on: March 29 2012, 09:09:02 PM »
Toll Booth in the winter- Where else is the window speed such a problem?

I like fast windows.. :shrug:

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« Reply #11 on: March 29 2012, 10:30:18 PM »
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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #12 on: March 30 2012, 08:25:54 AM »
Quit now, before you die.

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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #13 on: June 09 2012, 02:26:47 PM »
Have any of you tried bypassing the thermal laod resistor? I havent had the chance to do this yet but will link it.
The posts by GaryK pretty much cover it. People have posted vids of the window times up and down and it is very quick.
He does suggest to check the motor with a multimeter depending on the findings this mod will help.
http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/a-free-trick-to-help-speed-up-your-power-windows.256820/#post-1921462

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Re: Add to window circuit?
« Reply #14 on: June 09 2012, 06:14:30 PM »
I haven't ripped one apart, suspect its a thermally actuated overcurrent device.
Others may have better info. Not a fan of removing it. If you are following the script suggest you put the fuse where you can get at it at least.
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