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« on: December 20 2010, 10:56:37 PM »
anybody run one?  say like, something similiar to this one here  http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CTR-23-050

i'm gonna assume not very of us for our cars.  but i know some have.

if so... what was basis for you deciding to install one. and hows the results been?

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« Reply #1 on: December 20 2010, 11:40:54 PM »
there have been some rigged to try to minimize the amount of oil sucked into the plenum via the pcv.   How much real benefit there may be, I don't know
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Re: vaccum air/oil seperators
« Reply #2 on: December 21 2010, 08:53:40 AM »
My thought has always been that catch cans are a band aid solution for a bigger issue.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21 2010, 09:10:48 AM »
As said many times, fix the problem and you won't need one  :smt017
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Re: vaccum air/oil seperators
« Reply #4 on: December 21 2010, 09:38:04 AM »
but what if the only "problem", was that it's a higher milage turbocharged engine, and you wanted to help keep it from developing problems.
a properly working pcv and adding a check valve is a major player, right? but I can't think of one good thing it will do for your engine by pulling blowby into your intake.  deposit buildups. gumming stuff up. fouling, detonation,... a $100 for a good quality Moroso air/oil separator, it can only be a win-win, right?  
I gotta feeling you guys are gonna say that if it makes me sleep better at night,... then go knock my socks off :flat;
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« Reply #5 on: December 21 2010, 09:52:20 AM »
I think check valves are a gimmick...but, if it makes you sleep better.....
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« Reply #6 on: December 21 2010, 09:58:56 AM »
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but what if the only "problem", was that it's a higher milage turbocharged engine, and you wanted to help keep it from developing problems.
a properly working pcv and adding a check valve is a major player, right? but I can't think of one good thing it will do for your engine by pulling blowby into your intake.
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Re: vaccum air/oil seperators
« Reply #7 on: December 21 2010, 06:01:04 PM »
moroso also makes them that don't need the vacuum pumps
http://www.jegs.com/i/Moroso/710/85474/10002/-1  
this would be what i would go for if i where to add one.

steve, at wot and at say...28 psi,  even on a tight motor, your gonna be makin some pretty good crankcase pressure, right?    surely that check valve is doing you some good?
or do you just think their over-rated...as in, the valve cover breathers should be more than sufficient?
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« Reply #8 on: December 21 2010, 07:16:20 PM »
it is not the pressure that is important...it is the total volume that is pushed in.  Think how small a leak that a working pvc actually is compared to the volume that can escape thru the breathers...gi mmick in my opinion for those that don't think about the actual mechanics of the "problem"
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« Reply #9 on: December 22 2010, 10:23:32 AM »
I guess I was just kinda thinking along the lines of similar to exhaust leaks and vac leaks. where every little tiny bit can make a difference in your tune. but, I know, the pcv is a controlled leak
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« Reply #11 on: December 22 2010, 06:04:44 PM »
thanks mike!  i'll have to check those out :supz:
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Re: vaccum air/oil seperators
« Reply #12 on: December 23 2010, 06:49:14 PM »
Quote from: "tb3 @ Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:38 am"
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« Reply #13 on: December 23 2010, 09:59:01 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: December 24 2010, 10:33:05 AM »
Benadril will make you sleep better and also help any allergy symptoms you may have
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