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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #30 on: July 06 2018, 08:44:14 PM »
Just as a matter of contention and in light of the trade war going on Turbonetic turbos may be 100% assembled in the USA but not 100% made in the USA,  there is a small machine shop in Burlington ON CA that regularly ship parts to California. Well did anyway lol
Put a tariff on Aluminium but not a finished product. UMM

Ah, I did not know that, thank you for the information!

From everything I have learned while writing that article, and my many conversations with Reed, the owner of WORK Turbo, it seems that there is NO turbo that sources ALL of its' parts 100% from the USA.

I know Reed buys as much as possible from Domestic companies, like his center sections, for example, but there are some pieces (I think it was the turbine housing, or maybe the turbine wheel on some units) that you either cannot source Domestically, or the manufacturers that are Domestic have an inferior product compared to the overseas manufacturers.

I know for a FACT that there is a vendor that sells and builds his own turbos, who everyone thinks is the greatest person to grace the Buick scene since Duttweiler, and take everything he says as fact, that uses Chinese parts in his turbo builds. His turbos still perform great and I have more good experiences than the amount of bad ones, which shows you that just because it uses Chinese parts in it, like the wheels or housings, doesn't mean it is that bad of a product.

I get frustrated because I do not believe this vendor tells their customers that their turbos use Chinese parts, which I believe would have an influence on some people's purchasing habits, and also make them think twice if the parts used in that unit are as high quality as a turbo that uses Domestic high perfornance parts from companies like Garrett or Borg Warner, which have amazing track records for durability..

It upsets me when stuff like that happens and I am unable to make this fact known because they have been around forever and I have not. Again, this vendor builds great products, I am merely taking an issue with they saying they use the same quality parts that WORK uses, or not divulging to their customers that they are using Chinese/Overseas wheels in their turbos.

Oh well :/

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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #31 on: July 07 2018, 10:58:04 AM »
https://turbobuick.com/threads/nick-micale-arizonagn.458899/

Not the first unhappy customer, probably wont be the last. I hate to bash a long time guy that provides "some" tech but if you aren't taking care of your customers, someone else will.
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #32 on: July 07 2018, 12:47:33 PM »
By 'tech', you mean ''you can buy that from T/A performance''?
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« Reply #33 on: July 07 2018, 01:15:40 PM »
The only thing that I am surprised by is the fact that the thread has not been deleted yet
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #34 on: July 07 2018, 01:29:54 PM »
I agree with the comment about trying to find out information on Turbonetics turbos...the site is terrible and the information is sadly lacking
I even sent them an email and no response! :icon_confused: :(

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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #35 on: July 07 2018, 03:21:47 PM »
Got bored and ran a few common Comp Buick turbo V6 grinds through the Cam Motion calculator.  Overlap varies from -3* to -21*, that is a pretty substantial range; and can create issues when not appropriate for the application.  Jason's cam came in at -15*, IIRC.

A discussion on negative overlap cams:
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6989

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33508

http://www.speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52712

EDIT:  https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702425
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #38 on: July 07 2018, 06:20:41 PM »
I want a 3/4 race cam!
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #39 on: July 07 2018, 06:27:37 PM »
I want a 3/4 race cam!
I have a Full race cam with 2.5 lift! :rock:   There is big holes in my pistons so the valves can clear!

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« Reply #40 on: July 07 2018, 06:43:10 PM »
3/4 race cams worked well in my flatheads
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« Reply #41 on: July 07 2018, 06:48:25 PM »
it's kinda funny that buick cams are so out of date when Dr. D worked with a bunch of the early buick guys developing engine packages.  I remember Charlie and others always raving about how to pick cams for our cars and most of those guys never ran any better than anyone else.

I suspect the cam is minor compared to the turbos and heads in the rpm bands that we typically run.    I remember when Yaklin sold his black car.  The new owner put a big azz turbo on it and went to the track and ran 10.4 on the factory cam.  In the end, we run them on the track, not on the computer but I guess if I had a long winter, I would be more into computer racing
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #42 on: July 07 2018, 07:37:44 PM »
Got bored and ran a few common Comp Buick turbo V6 grinds through the Cam Motion calculator.  Overlap varies from -3* to -21*, that is a pretty substantial range; and can create issues when not appropriate for the application.  Jason's cam came in at -15*, IIRC.

A discussion on negative overlap cams:
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6989

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33508

http://www.speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52712

EDIT:  https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702425

May explain the laziness at the line.  I'm going to be installing a exhaust pressure sensor in the near future. Super anxious to see what it's doing


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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #43 on: July 07 2018, 07:42:49 PM »
LOL...cutting edge stuff!
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Re: Turbo Tech
« Reply #44 on: July 07 2018, 08:16:27 PM »
I'm all for new cam technology...b ut the bottom line is this. Most won't turn the boost past 20 PSI...so a cam and high end valve train will give minimal bang for the buck. A good NL convertor will give a far better return on investment for ET/MPH.
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