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« Reply #150 on: May 10 2016, 12:55:09 PM »
Middle for mine.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #151 on: May 10 2016, 02:01:19 PM »
probably end up at the short one for the best launch...maybe not :)
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #152 on: May 14 2016, 10:39:08 PM »
Made my first little road trip today after the swap. Went into Nitrous Outlet in Waco to meet a friend to wanted a set of headers that I had.  35 miles one way. Changed the oil and filter before leaving and reset the ECM before leaving on the trip. Some observations I had while ECM is in blm learning mode and viewing the wideband guage. Cruising at 65, blm at 131 so it's adding a bit of fuel but wideband is showing a bit on the rich side of stoich at 14 - 14.3. CC's we're counting at an acceptable speed.


After staying for a while in Waco, I head home. ECM is now not stuck in learning mode as much and crushing at 65 on the way home I noticed that BLM has now come down to 127 and wideband is at 14.2 - 14.6. CC's still counting same as before.  Only difference is that the ambient temp has dropped a few degrees. 


Thoughts?  Can the SD chip allow fueling changes at cruise?


BTW, car did great, not a single hiccup.  (The proverbial knock on wood sign)
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #153 on: May 15 2016, 06:56:51 AM »
I know zero about the SD chip. Steve should be able to help you with it.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #154 on: May 15 2016, 09:35:15 AM »
Yes, it can.  I'm running the SD1
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« Reply #155 on: May 15 2016, 11:33:00 AM »
If what? Would you not log the the VE table and then adjust it at that load point and rpm? I don't run a SD chip I have been researching them. Would you have too adjust the AFR table as well in those cells? What triggers the WB correction?
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« Reply #156 on: May 15 2016, 01:54:15 PM »
No ifs, that was Google keyboard helping me out
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« Reply #157 on: May 15 2016, 02:27:51 PM »
Lol
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #158 on: May 15 2016, 07:27:04 PM »
Made my first little road trip today after the swap. Went into Nitrous Outlet in Waco to meet a friend to wanted a set of headers that I had.  35 miles one way. Changed the oil and filter before leaving and reset the ECM before leaving on the trip. Some observations I had while ECM is in blm learning mode and viewing the wideband guage. Cruising at 65, blm at 131 so it's adding a bit of fuel but wideband is showing a bit on the rich side of stoich at 14 - 14.3. CC's we're counting at an acceptable speed.


After staying for a while in Waco, I head home. ECM is now not stuck in learning mode as much and crushing at 65 on the way home I noticed that BLM has now come down to 127 and wideband is at 14.2 - 14.6. CC's still counting same as before.  Only difference is that the ambient temp has dropped a few degrees. 


Thoughts?  Can the SD chip allow fueling changes at cruise?


BTW, car did great, not a single hiccup.  (The proverbial knock on wood sign)

Was there a shift in temperature or barometric pressure?  Hell, it could have just been the engine breaking in/getting comfortable.  I have seen as much as 15% difference in the fuel trims (both VE and MAF) from -40*C to 18*C in my TBSS, so whatever the % range from 131 to 127 is could be pretty normal deviation from day to day.  Obviously BLM and INT being short and long term adjustments.

And yes, you can chase the VE table up and down to compensate for the trims if they get way out of line.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #159 on: May 16 2016, 08:21:39 AM »
About a 3% difference between the numbers Mike.  Temp drop was the only significant difference in weather conditions and it wasn't that much.  Went from 84 on the way over down to about 75 on the way back. 

My observation was more directed at the difference in readings between the 2 sensors.  NB wanting to add fuel when WB says a little on the rich side and the opposite on the way home.  With the 5.7 chip, there is no option to tune cruise conditions
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« Reply #160 on: May 19 2016, 11:06:24 PM »
Installed the TA rear diff girdle this evening. Man! Real estate is at a premium back there with the Helwig bar and RJC muffler. Going to have to reposition the muffler this weekend and adjust the position of the bar on the axle tube
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« Reply #161 on: May 20 2016, 12:21:57 AM »
The cross flow muffler? That would be tight!
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« Reply #162 on: May 20 2016, 07:10:59 AM »
Tight...but lighter than my ATR dual exhaust.
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« Reply #163 on: May 20 2016, 08:43:45 AM »
The cross flow muffler? That would be tight!

It sounds pretty good too.
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Re: Barn motor and tranny swap
« Reply #164 on: May 20 2016, 09:13:41 AM »
Sounds good in the vid on RJC's site. Was about to order one myself when it first came out...but this ATR unit came up from my engine builder in Montreal.
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