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General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: Be4u on December 30 2006, 11:18:57 PM
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I just cant get over how they killed him. Your guilty bam your dead. No months or years of waiting for his execution. I'm for killing someone if there 100% guilty. But damn, it happens and I'm like...maybe we sould have waited. Hell, we waited years to kill Mcveigh. And who was he? A nobody. I think I feel that way because it was someone like Saddam. I grew up with the guy. He's always in the news. He's a powerful person. He ran a country for 20 years. I first learned about him when we were helping him...I was a young American and felt like "yeah! lets help Saddam!!!". Saddam started in my life as a good guy. Then the Gulf War started and I really didnt understand what was going on. I was influenced by high school teachers and their opinions. I was and still am confused about that war.
I feel like Bush jr pushed for this so hard because of his dad. Maybe Sr walked around every day saying "I wish I could have gotten him". Maybe Sr can die knowing his life is complete now and Jr can die knowing he made his dad proud...for once.
I really think Saddam should have been kept around for a while...in custody of course.
Heres a link to the crappy vid... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521
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I kinda understand what you mean about Saddam. He had sort of a
classy appearance. But, thats only appearance. He was an intelligent
man and he knew exactly the image to portray to his people. He had
many skeletons in his closet. He had ordered 1000's of his people executed.
He even personally killed some of his own family after he tricked them
into returning to Iraq when they fleed the country during the first US invasion.
He was a ruthless dictator much like Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin. He
deserved what he got. Keeping him around longer, only would've made the situation in Iraq worse than it already is. A fast execution was the best bet
instead of allowing Shite sympathizers enough time to devise any sort of
rescue mission or martyr style attack. At least he recieved due process...
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Who exactly tried Saddam? Could he have made a law protecting himself? I'm wondering because other leaders like him see the example made of him.
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Who exactly tried Saddam? Could he have made a law protecting himself? I'm wondering because other leaders like him see the example made of him.
He was removed from power and tried accordingly by the Iraqi people. Once
Saddam was removed from power, he no longer had the power to make any
laws protecting his actions or otherwise.
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Well yeah, but I wonder if he could have made a law b4 he got cought. SOmething to protect him.
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Well yeah, but I wonder if he could have made a law b4 he got cought. SOmething to protect him.
If that had happened, we'd have likely killed him without a trial. Honestly, we
(the US) should have gone back into Iraq 10 years ago when Saddam was
disobeying the the resolution restrictions. Instead, they left enough time to
allow them to stockpile weapons and train for a future confrontation.
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We helped Saddam AFTER he killed people right? Why didnt we get him then instead of helping him? Why punish him decades later?
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The only reason I have any remorse is that he is the only one capable of controlling the ones responsible for the insurgency.
They are all scared shitless of him and I would think we could use that somehow to protect our sons and daughters.
I think I would have felt better about it if an Iraqi would have wacked him in public, ala Jack Ruby.
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Yeah, like use him to seriously negotiate peace. He was wrong killing people but he's not a nobody like Mcveigh...I think he could have made a difference. But than again, he would have probably died from old age befor he gave in to creating peace.
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I keep telling myself not to form an opinion because I'm not a part of it.
It does seem that if the reverse were true and they would have invaded us we would be honoring the ones we call the insurgency.
I wish that we just were not a part of it and could fix problems at home instead.
I'm polishing off the box of wine and getting all deep and sh*t.
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Yeah, like use him to seriously negotiate peace. He was wrong killing people but he's not a nobody like Mcveigh...I think he could have made a difference. But than again, he would have probably died from old age befor he gave in to creating peace.
There is no negotiations with these "extremists" groups. They want us dead plain and simple, they say it in their speeches to the Iraqi people as well as Iran. We are hated by all those countries, we send them money and they breed more terrorists trying to kill us.
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I'm not sympathetic with the ones killing our soldiers, but I think I understand them.
It reminds me of our Revolutionary War where we were the insurgency against England. We fought because we thought we were right and now honor those who fought and died.
I think they are really afraid of having a 16 Wal-marts and 4200 Subways in town after we leave, and that will make anyone a little trigger happy.
We should start the "Jared not Jihad" campaign.
"eat fresh bitch" :vom:
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SunDog, believe me, I to wish we would spend a few years taking care of America and America only. I've said it b4. But then we'd lose control of the world.
I'm not saying to negotiate with the extreemists... just the normal people. Remember that gangster they executed last spring? He was a huge leader of street gangs. After he was arrested he did alot of good things to curb gang violence. He tried to right his wrongs. I think Saddam could have done the same thing and instead of dying a tyrant, Saddam could have saved a little face.
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I don't know, I hate talking politics, but I have a feeling that this is going to open a whole new can of worms for the US. I bet we are going to have more problems for us now.
As for McVeigh, the dude who blew up the govt office in OK? Kind of funny that he was related to the movie director asshole "Michael Moore". Now I can go on about that fucker.... Mr. Anti-gun shit....lol
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I'm not talking politics. Just general feelings.
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I'm not talking politics. Just general feelings.
I know, nothing wrong with that, I just listen to this, I understand on what you and everyone is saying.
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Saddam was never really a friend of the US. When Saddam invaded Iran he only became an ally because we shared an enemy.
I have no problem with him swinging from a rope quickly.
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Yeah but being young and in school, the Social Studies teachers had us thinking he was an allied friend. Oliver North was a hero too.
Shouldnt the world be guilty of doing nothing when Saddam killed thoes people? If we would have done something that same year maybe the middle east wouldnt be so crazy today. We were in a world war and got rid of Hitler pretty quick. Why let Saddam get away with it for so long?
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We, the US, does not really give a shit that he killed 1000's off his people. We could care less. Support was given in arms and probably money to fight a prixy war agains Iran becuase he wasnt a "mulsim extremist" like the Iranian leaders at the time. Saddam was pro western and progressive. He fucked up by invading Kuwait and threatening our oil supplies. the WORLD economy could not sustain 10 million gallons of lost oil a day for a weak. Also, Saddam fucked up by threatening the US with words. Now he becomes an enemy rather than a little problem.
The Iraq war wasnt to get rid of Saddam for humanitarian reason, nor was it for oil, or even for WMD;s. The US was sending a message to the region that if you support terrorism you will be dealt with.
Now of course the outcome hasnt gone or way exactly. We tried to do two things 1: send a message, remove terrorism, etc... 2: play nice guys and help Iraq rebuild.
We should have destroyed the place and completely brought them back to the stone age. Which would suppress faction leaders and keep power(money resources) in Bagdag with our own leaders that WE(the US) appointed.
War is hell. Not everything is perfect, Sometimes the US needs to be the bad guys to get things done....
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^ I'll agree with that guy.
On top of that, Schwartzkoff wanted to level Baghdad in the first war, but was held back.
Just like MacArthur was forced to step down in Korea and Patton wanted to run through Moscow after WWII. We have a history of letting potential enemies get stronger. Just like China now.
Ohh, nice vid. I seriously enjoyed watching him hang, I only wish the little Mexican kids in my hood where there to pinata his ass for a few.
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We, the US, does not really give a shit that he killed 1000's off his people.
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We, the US, does not really give a shit that he killed 1000's off his people.
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Anybody find the full vid yet?
And personally, I wish it was broadcast all over Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.
The Army should have set up stadium-sized widescreens and broadcast it to all of Iraq.
Good riddance, asshole.
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We, the US, does not really give a shit that he killed 1000's off his people.
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We, the US, does not really give a shit that he killed 1000's off his people. We could care less. Support was given in arms and probably money to fight a prixy war agains Iran becuase he wasnt a "mulsim extremist" like the Iranian leaders at the time. Saddam was pro western and progressive. He fucked up by invading Kuwait and threatening our oil supplies. the WORLD economy could not sustain 10 million gallons of lost oil a day for a weak. Also, Saddam fucked up by threatening the US with words. Now he becomes an enemy rather than a little problem.
The Iraq war wasnt to get rid of Saddam for humanitarian reason, nor was it for oil, or even for WMD;s. The US was sending a message to the region that if you support terrorism you will be dealt with.
Now of course the outcome hasnt gone or way exactly. We tried to do two things 1: send a message, remove terrorism, etc... 2: play nice guys and help Iraq rebuild.
We should have destroyed the place and completely brought them back to the stone age. Which would suppress faction leaders and keep power(money resources) in Bagdag with our own leaders that WE(the US) appointed.
War is hell. Not everything is perfect, Sometimes the US needs to be the bad guys to get things done....
Nice! If you're in Poli-Sci class print that out for extra credit or at least to show your parents they are not wasting their money.
We are sure to see Saddam again anyway gagging' on Satan's balls in Comedy Central re-runs of the South Park movie.
As of year's end (2006) there has been 3000 men and women killed in Iraq. I hope whatever point it is we are trying to make there is worth it.
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Brian is right about China, they are the ones we should be worrying about. They have a strangle hold on our economy and want world domination.
10% of all China's exports go to Wal-Mart alone.
We will all be deep s*hit when they pull the plug.
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I agree.
If TSM Girl and ledzep are getting along there might me a chance for peace in the middle east yet.
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I agree.
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Brian is right about China, they are the ones we should be worrying about.
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Brian is right about China, they are the ones we should be worrying about.
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I try to buy products made by people here, even if I pay a little more. Eventually the money those people earn makes its way back around into my paycheck. If it goes overseas, it only comes back in more products to buy.
I agree with that one, always looking to see where it is made.....sad thing is, there is not a lot left. Practially "almost" everything is made in China or somewhere else. Pretty sad.
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I'm a poly Sci major
China likes to push buttons. But like RR said we are too inter connected with our economies to go to war for no apparant reason. The only for see able "problem" would be China taking back Tawain. In that case the US would step in and well God only knows what would happen. We already showed our power by parading two destroyer/ aircraft fleets with many supporting ships around Tawain when China was playing their war games.
N Korea is a little different because in affect they have nothing to lose. They economy sucks and the little fucker is crazy. Of course the only place they would invade is S Korea... Again that war should be fought more like WWII, small amount of media.
Iran is the biggest instigator... pushing buttons to see how far they can push. They have support from all the extremist and automatically ally with any US hating country. IE N Korea.
Im tired. I argue much better verbally, typing is boring
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Wal-Mart. 'Made in America.'
Reminds me of the old Samuel Adams ads. 'Never a Light.'
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Wal-Mart. 'Made in America.'
Reminds me of the old Samuel Adams ads. 'Never a Light.'
Yeah, I remember an interview with Sam Cook on the topic of
light beer. He made the analogy that he'd never make a light beer
because that'd be like having sex in a canoe, its just too close to water.