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Title: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 12 2017, 09:18:51 AM
Thought I'd start a thread for posting up pics and anything else.  Been watching the weather pretty close and decided to make a run for it.  I've been planning this trip for 6 months, at least that's what the wife told me, so I'm gonna cannonball that way after work this evening. For sure going to get rained on the drive over. 
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Post by: Scoobum on September 12 2017, 09:37:18 AM
Have a safe and fun trip!
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Post by: daveismissing on September 12 2017, 11:55:34 AM
We are jealous. Regardless of weather it's fun to be with the boys. Shenanigans.
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Post by: Be4u on September 12 2017, 09:48:09 PM
I'm so close to pulling the trigger and just going. I haven't made any plans though. I suppose someone would let me shack up with them.
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Post by: daveismissing on September 13 2017, 02:09:57 PM
You and castleino could practice spooning
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Post by: good2win22 on September 13 2017, 05:05:35 PM
Made it about 230 this afternoon. Drizzling rain from Memphis till the race park. Forecast shows rain clearing late tonight early morning. I was told this place is normally packed by now but very few folks here. Met Fabro Cater and Don Cruz
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Post by: daveismissing on September 13 2017, 08:44:38 PM
Caters a good guy.
PS:Don't ask Don for any cam specs.
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Post by: good2win22 on September 13 2017, 10:20:48 PM
Caters a good guy.
PS:Don't ask Don for any cam specs.
That was one of the topics brought up at the dinner table. Definitely more to the story than most realize
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Post by: Be4u on September 14 2017, 02:17:27 AM
You and castleino could practice spooning
ewe  :vom:
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 14 2017, 08:19:11 AM
You and castleino could practice spooning
ewe  :vom:


If I get introduced to him, I'll ask him for your rent money
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Be4u on September 14 2017, 04:52:08 PM
Be careful he may trick you into 'footin' the bill'.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 14 2017, 08:35:31 PM
Rain stopped around 1 this afternoon and the track opened shortly after that. Made three passes with each one getting a little better. Still wittling away at the tune. First pass was at 19lbs and the last two passes was at 21lbs.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Scoobum on September 14 2017, 08:48:54 PM
Those heads have big runners...they'll need velocity. Bump the boost to 23 and keep it fat. You'll get your 10 second time slip. I assume you're locking the convertor.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: TexasT on September 14 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Look good. Keep whittling away at it.

Is it launching straight? Might need a bit more at the launch. Then you will have a ten sec slip.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 14 2017, 11:18:41 PM
Locking the converter at 90.


Working the tune at the start. Still too fat
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Scoobum on September 14 2017, 11:46:14 PM
I don't tune around 20 psi...or even 23 psi. At 20 psi with the 02's at the traps showing 820-830, I come back in and turn the rod in 2-3 turns. The extra boost brings the 02's down to the 770-780 range...and the car pulls like a freight train at 23 with the 6262. My thinking is this. Why bother leaning it out at low boost...and take a chance at smoking a pair of head gaskets. Why not turn the boost up a couple notches...leav e it fat...and haul ass. That LU convertor is prolly less efficient than my NL convertor until yours locks. Top end charge is where you're gonna fly.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 01:10:32 AM
Ran the numbers on the Wallace racing calculator. 7.36 slip % at the traps
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: reality on September 15 2017, 07:24:15 AM
Is 7.36 slip acceptable with a lock up converter?


You are backhalving the same as my car with a non- lock 3500 converter.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 08:22:58 AM
Here's some pics
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Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 08:24:02 AM
More pics
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Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 09:21:01 AM
Great pics Jason...keep 'em coming.
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Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 09:44:20 AM
Jason...turn the boost to 23...and prepare to go to...LUDICROUS SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofoqsDKIWg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofoqsDKIWg)
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: TexasT on September 15 2017, 10:01:00 AM
Whose maroon car is that?
How is Ken and his corn fed beast doing?
Man I need to start saving up. I want to go too.
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Post by: daveismissing on September 15 2017, 10:16:58 AM
for when you need lunch:
http://smokeypigbbq.com/ (http://smokeypigbbq.com/)
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:25:51 AM
Jason...turn the boost to 23...and prepare to go to...LUDICROUS SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofoqsDKIWg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofoqsDKIWg)
That some funny shit right there!
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:27:53 AM
Whose maroon car is that?
How is Ken and his corn fed beast doing?
Man I need to start saving up. I want to go too.
Maroon limited belongs to Randel Asbury. 12k mile car. He is the second owner. We kind of have the limited tent. I've counter 6 limiteds here. There may be more but that's all I've seen.


Ken ran an 11.85. Having some issues with his boost puck not seating
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:36:57 AM
Pics
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Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:37:54 AM
Pics
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Post by: motorhead on September 15 2017, 12:10:25 PM
That MPH.... hgggnnnngnn... and I am done.
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Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 12:16:20 PM
Weather looks nice!!!
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Post by: 278CIKILLER on September 15 2017, 12:28:15 PM
There's a live feed on F/B .

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Post by: TexasT on September 15 2017, 02:16:48 PM
Looks like a decent turn out. I hope Ken gets it squared away. In his vid it spun.
Thanks for the pix.
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Post by: Pyro6 on September 15 2017, 06:14:09 PM
Whose maroon car is that?

Maroon limited belongs to Randel Asbury. 12k mile car. He is the second owner. We kind of have the limited tent. I've counter 6 limiteds here. There may be more but that's all I've seen.
Tell Randall he's a traitor, he's supposed to be at Cecil! I hope someone soon changes their event date


Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: gusszgs on September 15 2017, 06:21:52 PM
Good luck Jason, that's a sweet looking car you have there. Sure seems there's a lot of Ltd's left out of the 1035  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 08:16:41 PM
11.4
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Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 08:16:53 PM
11.2
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Post by: Scoobum on September 15 2017, 08:17:08 PM
11.1
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Up date for today.  Car show kept the track shut down until 2 this afternoon.  There were some damn nice cars that showed up.  I even found an RX7 with an LC2 drivetrain installed.  Took a pic just for Steve.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 15 2017, 11:21:05 PM
I met up with a friend of Brad's, Kevin. He is on the board here and I met up with Grumpy and his wife.  Didn't get to talk with Russ but he was there as well. As we say in Texas, they are good people! 


As for my outing today... Well let's just start from the top.  My goal was to get a 10 second time slip with this combo.  I made some runs last year at the ford vs buick event and identified a few things and mis-diagnosed a few others. It appears that I got most of that straightened out with the help of you guys here on the board.  I appreciate you all!  I was able to make a few passes today and continued to wittle down the tune.  1st pass at BG was a 12.5 at 116. Last pass at BG was a 10.98 at 125.96. I sure wish I knew how to tune but Rome wasn't built in a day....
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Steve Wood on September 15 2017, 11:45:02 PM
Good run! I'm happy for you 👍

Get it to hook and you have a mid ten.

Tuning is vastly over rated. Concentrate on low gear. The other gears are easy
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: TexasT on September 16 2017, 01:15:28 AM
AWESOME!!!
Nice work.
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Post by: Scoobum on September 16 2017, 08:11:05 AM
Congrats! Ya' gotta stay calm...lol!!!!!!!

Steve, I was on the phone with Jason during the afternoon a few times. On the 11.4 run he left the line at 2500 and went a 2.0. I had him bump the rpm's up to 2900 and have at it. The car responded with a 1.8...but started pushing through the lites. He said the convertor flashed to 3450...which isn't enuf. My thots are the convertor may be a tad tight...the rear brakes aren't holding enuf...or the low gear tune isn't up to snuff.

To no surprise the low gear fueling in that chip is pig rich. He was pulling 2 percent low gear fuel on each run and added a couple degrees of low gear timing.

Jason, grab your laptop and find Kevin. Get Grumpy and Russ to have a look at the 10 second run. They'll help you decipher it and give you recommendation s. You're surrounded by some of the very best in the Buick world...ask questions.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Steve Wood on September 16 2017, 09:43:45 AM
I have come around to your school of thought on converters after helping William all these years.  I would say he needs at least another 600-700 rpm of flash stall.  I suspect the car will not be as rich in low with the right converter but that's my theory and may well not be fact :D
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 16 2017, 10:15:59 PM
Well fella's' I made it home this evening. Definitely a fun few days. Lots of stuff to put away and get back at the grind.


Met a lot of nice and fun people.  One fella jumped in the pool at the hotel for 10 bucks. Next night there was a midget blow up doll. You can imagine the shenanigans going on.


Big thanks to Brad for calming me down in between runs, also want to thank Kevin for helping out even though I had just met him.


Steve, tune is so fat in low gear that boost doesn't build as it should. Track was very, very sticky but wasn't open for very long each day. I counted four cars that broke something in their rear diff carrier after launch.  Kevin watched my 11.1 pass from the lanes and car launches straight with a solid patch on each tire. I didn't spin on any of the 7 passes I made.   I'm going to have a look at the master cylinder to see if it's bleeding down after applying pressure.


I had lots of folks telling me what to change in the tune but no one to explain where to do it on the SD2. Studying the logs and looking at little bubbles then applying changes where I thought it would make a difference worked for the most part but I took baby steps with the adjustments. I could've leaned the high gear a bit more but felt it was safe where it was at and concentrated on the low gear. Anyway, I am pleased with the progress that was made this weekend. Car has little more in it.  Boost on the best pass was 23-24 with the creep from the internal gate. Get that short time figure out and it may be a 10.5 car with this current boost level. I may head to little River and work on launching once I look at the brakes and tune some more.


One more thing... Kevin called my car a little rocket. I like it
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Forzfed on September 17 2017, 09:02:45 PM
Congrats on the 10 sec run!  Looks like an awesome time! :cheers:
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 17 2017, 10:29:47 PM
Thanks guys!  Appreciate all of you!
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Post by: motorhead on September 17 2017, 10:46:20 PM
I hate you now. ;)
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: nocooler on September 18 2017, 03:26:54 PM
Sounds like a good time! Congrats on 10s.
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Post by: gusszgs on September 18 2017, 04:36:41 PM
Congrats Jason
How was the weather when your ran? Any humidity?
I was hoping to chisel my Ltd down into the low 11's but could only  muster a 11.51
It was pretty warm and humid.....not making excuses. Getting my 60' dialed in better this year though. Managed a 1.58 a couple weeks ago and 1.62 this weekend, clutches are done on the posi now. Always something
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: Grumpy on September 18 2017, 05:13:43 PM
10 sec run !!!! Congrats !!!!  :rock:
Title: BG 2017
Post by: larrym on September 18 2017, 05:22:43 PM
Way to go Jason!!


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Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on September 18 2017, 06:59:51 PM
Congrats Jason
How was the weather when your ran? Any humidity?
I was hoping to chisel my Ltd down into the low 11's but could only  muster a 11.51
It was pretty warm and humid.....not making excuses. Getting my 60' dialed in better this year though. Managed a 1.58 a couple weeks ago and 1.62 this weekend, clutches are done on the posi now. Always something
Mid 80's and probably 70% humidity by that part of the day when I made the 10 second pass. It was warm and muggy. We calculated DA to be around 2300 feet.


Congrats on the short time! I guess I need to get some lessons from you on launching. I was pleased with how straight my car launched and but I didn't really have any good short times. 1.733 was the best I could muster. I don't remember if you upgraded your rear end but I put in some 30 spline Moser's and an Eaton tru-trac.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: ss/gn on September 18 2017, 07:21:16 PM
One more thing... Kevin called my car a little rocket. I like it

Yup it sure was! Damn thing would hook in a car wash! Great meeting you and hope we can all make it next year.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: ss/gn on September 18 2017, 07:22:50 PM
10 sec run !!!! Congrats !!!!  :rock:

You need a car like that :icon_lol:
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Post by: Grumpy on September 18 2017, 07:57:21 PM
10 sec run !!!! Congrats !!!!  :rock:

You need a car like that :icon_lol:

Know where I can get one ??  :chin: :cool;
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: daveismissing on September 19 2017, 01:43:28 PM
10 sec run !!!! Congrats !!!!  :rock:

Indeed!

And congrats to you, Russ and Melissa. Nicely done.
Title: Re: BG 2017
Post by: good2win22 on November 02 2017, 08:03:54 PM
A friend posted some pics from BG. Found a couple pics of the car
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Post by: nocooler on November 02 2017, 08:08:15 PM
Looks good!
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Post by: Scoobum on November 02 2017, 08:08:19 PM
Always nice to have pics!
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Post by: Top Speed on November 05 2017, 06:29:54 PM
Awesome!
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