IHADAV8.com - Turbo Buick Tech, and Nonsense
General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: good2win22 on January 21 2017, 11:21:49 PM
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So a friend of mine's little brother bought himself an 86 T type. He's a younger fella, just starting a family and all. He's been trying to get this thing going and has called a few times with some basic questions. I defer to Steve's site in the hope that he reads. Anyways, he says he wants me to look at the car so I agree for him to bring it over this morning.... Man was I in for a surprise. I'll just let the pics do the talking
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:O :O OMFG!!!!
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I hope he didn't give too much for it. Looks like it is gonna need some serious rewiring.
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Damn. Looks like my old car.
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Did it need a new module connector and someone marretted it together instead of soldering and heat shrinking it?
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wire nuts - did my uncle wire it? his whole race car is wired with wire nuts!
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That is a nice connection to the back of the alternator! :icon_lol:
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Rich, he gave $4k for this car.
Did it need a new module connector and someone marretted it together instead of soldering and heat shrinking it?
I have no idea what happened to this car or why it happened.
The wiring gets better. Also the intercooler fan was broken and looks like it took the intercooler when it went.
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The fan and intercooler
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Does this young fella know how to wrench on a car? He's lucky he's got you to help him out for sure. A shop would have a field day with this.
Is the car itself in decent shape?
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Does this young fella know how to wrench on a car? He's lucky he's got you to help him out for sure. A shop would have a field day with this.
Is the car itself in decent shape?
He's got initiative and says he knows the lt1 and ls1 inside and out. He stayed the whole time I pulled the engine harness. Told me to call him when I was working on it and he would come help. I hope to have it up and running after this next work hitch.
The initial plan was to change the fuel pump, run a hot wire kit, change valve springs and timing chain/gears. That took a right turn when the car got here to the house. We couldn't even get it off the trailer. Fella had put on some 28x10.5's slicks and they were all in the wheel well. Gouged the sidewalls pretty good before it finally wouldn't move at all. Had to get the tractor and pick up on the rear bumper with the bucket just to get it to roll. Told me he used ratchet straps to get it on the trailer.
Fortunately, I have a some stock parts here just collecting dust that we can use. Plan now is to put on a stock cooling fan, stock intercooler, change the valve springs, timing chain/gears with a roller cam button in the hopes that the cover is not too worn, and lastly another engine harness. I have two stock harnesses here. The one from the limited which worked great on a stock ignition setup and the other came with the barn motor when I purchased it. It's functionality is unknown to me but was supposedly on a running car before that fella blew a head gasket and decided to go the LS route.
As for the car, frame and body are pretty damn solid. Factory Astro roof car that functions. Interior is super rough. Original paint with lots of cracking. Surprisingly the fillers are there and not cracked but I haven't touched them to to see how frail they are. Lots of crazy wiring all over the place. Headlight bezels are trash. I'm pretty certian that I wouldn't have paid $4k for it.
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I don't see damaged tubes? Did you pressure test it?
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I don't see damaged tubes? Did you pressure test it?
The bottom tube has a pretty good nick in it. I poured a little gas in it and it ran directly out the nick. Could weld it up if he wants to but I'm not that proficient when it comes to welding aluminum. I'd rather he take it somewhere if he wants to go that route.
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that looks like my Challenger did...except it only has about 10% of the wires that a Regal does....smh
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What color is the car? There used to be a silver Astro roof 86 in s ft worth when these cars were new.
And if you like putting these cars back together, a friend of mine out near Abilene was looking for someone to put his limited back together and get it running and driving. I wasn't sure after you didn't want to fool with your old white one.
I'm sure the car is worth $4k in parts. Not much room for profit at that price though. If it gets running and driving I'm sure it will be an $8k car. Or at least that's where some of the rough ones I've seen seem to start.
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For you Rich
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That could be the car. Does it look like it has been wrecked in the front in the past? The owner had a set of wheels like that.
Is it silver or grey?
The one I knew came from Tyson Buick in ft worth. Original owner ran it onto several things in the front and eventually the insurance totaled it and he bought a turbo trans am. Do the wheels have the bob Glidden stickers on them?
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It's gray. I can't make out any previous damage. Was told the car came out of Houston area.
Had a new surprise today and goes against everything I've read and been told.
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Gotta take up the slack some how.
You are doing fine work. Another one back on the road when you are done.
Does it have a real big braided fuel line that conleys did to pretty much every one they worked on? Cat delete pipe with cut out?
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Is the tensioner all chewed up? If not, run it.
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Gotta take up the slack some how.
You are doing fine work. Another one back on the road when you are done.
Does it have a real big braided fuel line that conleys did to pretty much every one they worked on? Cat delete pipe with cut out?
No braided fuel line. No test pipe either.
Is the tensioner all chewed up? If not, run it.
After I pulled the cover I got side tracked with the father in law and didn't get a chance to pull the tensioner to have a look at it. I'll get it this morning and see
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Then I doubt conleys worked on it. Lots of miles on it? Crazy with all the wire nuts . Looks like something my dad worked on.
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Straighten out that body side moulding- its annoying :)
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Had a new surprise today and goes against everything I've read and been told.
If the outside of the chain is smooth you can run a tensioner. Most roller type links are dogboned shaped and beat the plastic to pieces.
It's hard to tell from the shadow but the tensioner doesn't look that bad.
The bottom gear looks like it has very pointed teeth so that would explain all the slop.
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Made some progress on this heap today. I sure would like to choke out the previous "mechanic."
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Probably need to drop that pan and see about the oil pick up.
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Awe come on, your hands aren't even dirty
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Mechan-hack.
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Awe come on, your hands aren't even dirty
Pulled my nitrile gloves off to get my phone out to take the pic. Eczema gets really bad in the winter months and cracks around the nails are terribly painful. I try all I can to keep them from not splitting open.
Probably need to drop that pan and see about the oil pick up.
Pulled the pan and we were fortunate there. Oil pump was pretty tuff to turn. Someone installed the taller gears with the steel plate but didn't bother to shim or ream the bolt holes for a proper fit. Really surprised it didn't break the cam sensor or strip a gear.
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Jason, this product works very well.
http://www.okeeffescompany.com/working-hands (http://www.okeeffescompany.com/working-hands)
A guy I used to work with had "girly" hands like you :icon_lol: and said it worked really well.[si
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Jason, this product works very well.
http://www.okeeffescompany.com/working-hands (http://www.okeeffescompany.com/working-hands)
A guy I used to work with had "girly" hands like you :icon_lol: and said it worked really well.
Works on my Girly Hands too. Used to have gorilla hands when I worked construction but this electronics sh*t makes one soft (hands only bub!)
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Thanks for the link! I'll have to give that stuff a try.
Got the heap back together. Turned the key to set the TPS and cam sensor but I didn't hear a fuel pump. Checked the relay, fuse and then power at the pump via the new hot wire kit. All was good so I grabbed a battery and ran a couple of jumpers to the connector. Nothing. Yeah! Now I have to drop the tank. Good thing I did. It was nasty in there. Got it flushed and stabbed in a Walbro I had laying on the shelf and some new fuel lines. Jack the tank back in place and turn the key... Wa la! Fuel pressure and no leaks. Set the TPS and cam sensor. One last look around to check for something missed and hit the ignition. BAM! It fired right up! But not for long. Would only stay running with my hand on the throttle. Found a vacuum leak on the EGR block off plate. Pulled the cover and made a gasket for it. Reinstalled the plate and fired it back up. BAM! Nice and smooth idle. Check the scan master readings and voltage was just below 12 volts. Alternator not charging. That's when I put my tools away and came inside for a shower
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Holy crap Batman! That pump looks like a dog's breakfast..... ...after consuming! Good work!
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Well... Kept the battery charger on the battery overnight Saturday. Went to church Sunday morning and then back at the heap. Checked the charging bulb and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Stuck it back together and started the car. BAM! Now the alternator is charging and charging good at 14.2 volts. PFM I guess. Anyway, kid showed up with his trailer and finally got to drive his $4k heap. He was elated with happiness. Here's some before and after in the engine bay.
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Doesn't even look like it's the same car.
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You are a good man; he'd better buy you a drink when he is old enough.
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Great job! You get a lot done in a short time. Makes me feel really old!
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You make me sick.....in a good way
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Holy crap! I figured the front cover was still off :O
Good work!
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Doesn't even look like it's the same car.
It's the same piece of junk that he brought in.
You are a good man; he'd better buy you a drink when he is old enough.
He's old enough now to buy. I'm just not into drinking that much.
Great job! You get a lot done in a short time. Makes me feel really old!
You ain't old Steve! You're aged. Plus I got to get shit done in my time off so I can get to my projects. I did a few things while he wasn't here but for the most part I wanted him here for all of the work and he came over whenever I told him to. The real question will be how soon before he comes asking about a head gasket job
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looks like your going to side work for long time to come. looks good on what you did.
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what no burnout vids? :rock:
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You are a good man; he'd better buy you a drink when he is old enough.
He's old enough now to buy. I'm just not into drinking that much.
Funny, never had a drop myself. Make it a root beer then.