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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: juan89 on November 03 2016, 05:33:46 PM

Title: Earl Pistons
Post by: juan89 on November 03 2016, 05:33:46 PM
Earl I need your pistons.


Juan
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: motorhead on November 03 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Maybe if your name was Juanitta - then you could get Earl's "piston".
Title: Earl Pistons
Post by: achalmersman on November 03 2016, 07:48:38 PM
What happened to his thread at the "other" place?  I got notifications of activity to that thread but it says it was deleted?  I am interested in all discusion related to these pistons.

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Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: earlbrown on November 04 2016, 03:35:04 AM
Clint deleted it and said I had to pay money and be a vendor.....


...even though Shane, Jay, and Charlie told me to run with it since I was going to bring something new to the members and not compete with any paying vendors.


the real bad part is it was a TECH thread.  I only talked about how to work the blocks to save meat (and money) and how to calculate compression ratios.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: TexasT on November 04 2016, 07:23:24 AM
Nice, now they are back to deleting stuff. Who is this Clint fellow? Sounds like he is making poor choices.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: achalmersman on November 04 2016, 12:02:05 PM
Clint deleted it and said I had to pay money and be a vendor.....


...even though Shane, Jay, and Charlie told me to run with it since I was going to bring something new to the members and not compete with any paying vendors.


the real bad part is it was a TECH thread.  I only talked about how to work the blocks to save meat (and money) and how to calculate compression ratios.
Thats bullshit.  At the most they ahould have deleted the post about they guy asking to buy.

They should have left the thread up.  There was a lot of good tech info and discussion in your piston threads and people should,be aware of a product that is still in the infant stage and quite a valuable asset to us.  So how much do they expect you to pay for something you havent made money on?

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Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: motorhead on November 04 2016, 12:33:39 PM
Well that is ultra shitty.  Sorry to hear about the narrowmindedne ss, Earl... maybe you need to sell them through a paying vendor to meet their expectations?

Stick with it... even when you don't feel appreciated.

And FWIW, the TB community needs to start standing up for itself and get the dick-tators back in line.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: earlbrown on November 04 2016, 02:06:13 PM
Clint is Sydwyndr.  I noticed it has 'admin' under his name now. I was thinking only Shane had that moniker.
They aren't in the infant stage, they've been done and finalized for years. I just don't act like other people and bring them up every time someone mentions pistons and try and ram them down peoples throats.

At any rate, I heard back from Shane today and he said for $1000 I can be a vendor and have a banner.  For $500 I can be a vendor and on page 2 (whatever that means).

Needless to say I can't allocate $500/$1000 to sell parts at (and sometimes below) cost along with handing out free tech advice.

So it looks like the only way I can keep my tech posts from vanishing is to ask $200 or so to a set of slugs and give it a year to 14 months or so to break even..... :icon_eyes:




 
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Forzfed on November 04 2016, 04:31:41 PM
$200 done!!  I am finally going to get my engine torn apart next week or the week after.  Too many projects on the go.  Pulled the engine out of my low milage RZ to put in new crank seals and clean up the power valves and see what the rest of the motor looks like.  Engine only has 4200km but sat for a long time.  I did fill the cylinders up with oil.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: achalmersman on November 04 2016, 05:30:11 PM


They aren't in the infant stage, they've been done and finalized for years.

I didnt meant that in an insulting way.  I meant infant as in not well known by the masses, and only available through you, etc.  And we really havent seen much tech talk about them and now it seems full on censorship has commenced. 

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Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: 1KWIKSIX on November 04 2016, 06:10:13 PM
Here's an interesting post from Shane on the other board.
Note the comment at the end of the 2nd statement......Deletion will be rare and a last resort. Even deleted threads will be logged for future reference!

would like to welcome our newest member of the admin team here at TurboBuick.com (http://turbobuick.com/)Thank you for helping  http://www.turbobuick.com/members/sydwyndr.617 (http://www.turbobuick.com/members/sydwyndr.617/).  Clint is a good and honest man. He has been the driving force behind the TB Nats and now has graciously offered to extend his help to the board as an admin.


NO MORE DELETED THREADS OR POSTS UNLESS AN ADMIN DOES IT..... Deletion will be RARE and a last resort. Even deleted threads will be logged for future reference.


I am going to get this board back to where it supposed to be with all the help I am being offered. Thanks everyone and more mod announcements will be coming soon!
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: daveismissing on November 04 2016, 08:07:49 PM
http://www.turbobuick.com/threads/for-sale-posts.445551/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/threads/for-sale-posts.445551/)

With the help of some good people we are slowly trying to get the board back to the place it should be. I am letting EVERYONE know if you are selling parts and it is obvious it is more than just personal stuff we are going to be cracking down.

You can stop now and avoid posts being removed. I am warning in advance. Please don't pm me after your multiple for sale threads are removed wanting to know why your post was removed.

We have a handful of guys acting as vendors and are NOT. Please stop... Or do it right....

PM me, we have 2 different levels of board sponsorship.
 SGRIM, Today at 5:02 AM
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: daveismissing on November 04 2016, 08:16:04 PM
Yah, they wanted $500 to have a table at RC's in the spring IIRC.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: motorhead on November 04 2016, 10:19:59 PM
Wow... just keep driving folks further and further away from the centre of this hobby.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Steve Wood on November 05 2016, 09:59:59 AM
Nothing new...same ol', same ol'.  I am amazed they did not drop the hammer earlier.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: earlbrown on November 06 2016, 04:14:50 PM
No idea what 'back on track' really means though. I realize it's a money thing and ran like a business. That makes 100% sense.   But the only reason that style of business is able to charge anything is because the 'product' is volunteers that gather together and post.  Now I get if someone makes 99% of posts in the for sale section then, yeah, hammer time.  That type of person isn't a part of the community, that example is someone on the outside pulling money out of the community while not participating.

 

i was away from all the boards for several months this/last year and I noticed a huge change in the people and the types of posts when I started going back

It seems the people I recognize have figured out most of what they need to know (or know enough to do accurate searches). And the newbies just seem awful now.

I can't tell you how often I've skipped posts where guys are just practically demanding you solve their problem AND you have to do it in a way that agrees with how they want the problem to be.
 
It really takes the fun out of giving away free tech advice.  ..and this is from someone that has no problem overlooking  best turbo/widest tire stock rim/ powerplate a restriction/ biggest cam questions.

I think it's just the passage of time. The cars are 30 years old now and there's parts and things that need to be addressed today that just weren't factors 10~15 years ago.

If my theory is right a lot of cars in iffy shape with potential are going to get ruined from newbs breaking the hell out of them before making it mechanically sound first.  Then they'll get parked in long grass outside or get a 350/350 stuck in them with black tape and hanger wire.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Forzfed on November 06 2016, 07:27:05 PM
I would have sent you my motor to rebuild for me Earl if I knew it would be sitting at the machine shop for over a year!  And I'm keeping my big a$$ cam.  Once I crank up the boost I'm sure it will shine especially now that I have lifters that can handle 7000rpm never mind those crappy 853 that would collapse at anything after 5500rpm. :013:
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: earlbrown on November 06 2016, 11:02:20 PM
Big ass cams work with more compression  :)


It's the dynamic that really matters!
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: TexasT on November 07 2016, 09:42:38 AM
Plus the "bigg a$$" provides that nasty idle.
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Steve Wood on November 07 2016, 09:45:25 AM
I would have sent you my motor to rebuild for me Earl if I knew it would be sitting at the machine shop for over a year!  And I'm keeping my big a$$ cam.  Once I crank up the boost I'm sure it will shine especially now that I have lifters that can handle 7000rpm never mind those crappy 853 that would collapse at anything after 5500rpm. :013:

Good thing you have that crank and rods that will handle 7000 rpm more than once!  :D
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Forzfed on November 07 2016, 10:16:48 AM
True dat! I won't be buzzing to 7k but I think one of my biggest issues is not running on all cylinders.  My one run I cracked an 11.8 with the converter unlocked, a 1.8x 60ft on straight pump gas,17psi on the CPT66,and the motor was knocking bad after the 1/8.  I thought some thing was majorly wrong.  Pulled the valve cover on the drivers side and no movement what so ever on the rockers on number 5 cylinder.  Later I discovered the shims on the rocker shaft were binding.  I changed out those 2 lifters and everytime I would step on it my motor would have a loud lifter tick.  I did run an 11.5 but the motor was still farting and popping down the 1/4.

Thinking really hard of getting the Turbonetics 6468.  Hopefully, next summer will be fun!  Where is the burn rubber icon?
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Forzfed on November 07 2016, 10:19:53 AM
Plus the "bigg a$$" provides that nasty idle.

The 224/224 isn't really that Nasty in the 4.1 especially being a roller.  My old Conley's cam sounded nasty!
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Steve Wood on November 07 2016, 10:59:39 AM
Plus the "bigg a$$" provides that nasty idle.

The 224/224 isn't really that Nasty in the 4.1 especially being a roller.  My old Conley's cam sounded nasty!

I had a 221/221 from LC that sounded really bad past 5000 rpm...sounded like an airplane on a strafing run!
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: Forzfed on November 07 2016, 02:12:26 PM
My old Conley's cam made my 4.1 sound like a 350 Chevy, sounded loud and deep not like the wimpy sounding stock 6 cylinder.  When I put the roller in, I was like what happened to the sound, not as loud or deep.  Maybe the higher compression will make it sound better! :chin:
Title: Re: Earl Pistons
Post by: earlbrown on November 07 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Since the bad ass idle comes from a piss poor vac signal, higher compression 'helps' that too.    When I pulled my engine and ONLY changed the slugs, I lost the  'rump rump' my 215/220 roller had.   Then going to the TT chip (that isn't right for my buid really made it idle smooth :(

IT barks the hell out of second now with about 2% throttle. So that's something.
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