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Title: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 12 2016, 10:56:54 AM
Luckily I'm off hitch this week of the event. Driving up to Noble on Friday morning. Event starts that evening and again on Saturday. Hope the weather holds. I'll throw up pics when I can. It will be a big test of unknowns for me.  SD2, radial slicks, exhaust, 6262, and suspension setup. Tuning will be my biggest hurdle. I hope to get some test passes Friday evening and a few more in the qualifying on Saturday before the elimination rounds.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Steve Wood on October 12 2016, 01:26:03 PM
Looks like it is going to run well so you should have some fun!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: motorhead on October 12 2016, 02:36:03 PM
You'll do fine.  Just creep up on it.  PM me if you need any pointers on tuning a VE table.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Shimy87 on October 12 2016, 04:33:55 PM
Good luck!!!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Scoobum on October 12 2016, 05:39:49 PM
Have fun!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: TexasT on October 12 2016, 06:34:19 PM
Have you had ot out on one of those back country roads for a blast or two?
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 12 2016, 11:17:28 PM
Thanks fella's!  Mike I will definately have my tablet set on speed dial for when the time arises.  Rich, I posted a couple of logs on a thread titled "SD2 tuning." 


I removed the RJC exhaust and installed the Pypes system. Steve, there are three versions of mufflers that you can order with that system. I chose the race pro muffler.  Attaching a pic to show how restrictive it isn't.


Installed a 4" intake pipe and couplers that I got from Mark at TR custom parts. I am completely MAF-less. 


Drained the tank and put back in 5 gallons of 93. Going to detail the car tomorrow morning and head to the scales. 
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: TexasT on October 13 2016, 08:28:57 AM
Looking like a muffler should.
Underhood looking sharp.
Should make a good showing. Is Ken going?
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 13 2016, 08:41:14 AM
No. Ken has some fiddle concert that he already committed to
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: motorhead on October 13 2016, 10:43:18 AM
Looks serious!

I remember the day I went MAF-less like it was yesterday...
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 13 2016, 03:15:29 PM
Cleaned and tires swapped out. I'm really digging the race stars!  Local scale was closed today so no weight
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: 1 RARE T on October 13 2016, 03:22:40 PM
Damn, that is one sexy Bitch.  :cool;
Title: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: larrym on October 13 2016, 04:41:13 PM
Looks pretty sexy like paint color a lot


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Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Shimy87 on October 13 2016, 06:30:39 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: gusszgs on October 13 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Nice looking machine Jason, good luck on your runs.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: motorhead on October 13 2016, 07:58:29 PM
Beast mode!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Pyro6 on October 13 2016, 08:06:12 PM
Go get em!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 15 2016, 07:36:29 AM
Having trouble with the TR6 again. Base tune at 20PSI was 115 thru the traps. Working with a fella named Jack Laswell. He's a really nice guy and helpful.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: TexasT on October 15 2016, 09:50:19 AM
Hooking good?
60'?

Cars lookin sweeeet!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Shimy87 on October 15 2016, 12:23:59 PM
Jason. What height back tire do you run?
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 15 2016, 01:18:26 PM
More problems. Cam sensor reluctor wheel snapped the tab off. Found another one and got it installed. Just FYI, no two cam sensor caps have the same timing set even if you just swap out the caps. So check the cam sensor phasing after changing caps.


One cool thing is that the Andrade racing team parked next to me.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 15 2016, 01:41:40 PM
Jason. What height back tire do you run?
Rich, I have 28x9 radial slicks on the rear.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 15 2016, 01:44:09 PM
The Andrade crew and my little old Buick in the background
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: TexasT on October 15 2016, 06:06:56 PM
That's pretty cool. He is the only one from that show is want to meet.
So the cam sensor was giving problems? Now the tr6 giving full spark?
I guess that Mr Laswell is a pretty sharp fella.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2016, 09:13:54 AM
Made it back last night around 11 PM. Had a great time with the Dallas-Fort Worth guys. 


William showed up on Friday night and ended up braking one of his u-joints. He had to work Saturday and couldn't come back.


Of course the ford guys won the event. We just don't have a lot of guys running in the 10's and that where they killed us.  No worries, it was all in good fun. 


I didn't think I would have as many gremlins as I did, but it is a buick. The TR6 reared its head with the cam sensor code but it turned out to be actual. The little tab on the cam sensor reluctor wheel had snapped off. One of the Botkol brothers had a spare cam sensor with him and we swapped out the wheel.  Then the code came back and found the screw for the reluctor wheel had backed out.  Got some lock tite and then that solved that.  Then the phasing was out on the sensor.   That's why I posted about the cam sensor caps not having the same setting even if just replacing the caps. From a setting at 25 degrees with one cap, to almost 33 degrees with another stock cap.  Next thing was building boost at the line and not pushing through the lights. Then I noticed the alky wasn't spraying. It goes on and on.  Also had one run with the tranny not wanting shift.  Also had the SD2 dump the tune and then it had some crazy numbers in some of the cells. Always check your BLM grid before making a hit.  Lots of work to do still


I am happy with the mph. TC was locking at 90 mph. 116.59 ain't too shabby at the traps.  Car consistently picked up over 30 mph from the 1/8 thru the 1/4 mile traps and that's without any alky spraying.


Brad, so you can figure some slip percentages on the converter.
116.59 mph
28x9 MT radial slick
5095 rpm at the traps
3.42 gear


I kept the tune pretty rich at 10.5. At least I know the fuel system can handle it without alky
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Shimy87 on October 16 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Glad u had fun!! Even with issues its still a blast. How can u tell when the convertor locks?
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Steve Wood on October 16 2016, 11:49:35 AM
First question is about the short time and your low speed in the 1/8th.

Were you blowing the tires away thru the 1/8th or was it accelerating so slowly due to being way rich?

You can email Brad for a slip number...I calculate very badly in this case!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: TexasT on October 16 2016, 12:12:31 PM
Is that the converter from Jake?
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2016, 02:09:04 PM
First question is about the short time and your low speed in the 1/8th.

Were you blowing the tires away thru the 1/8th or was it accelerating so slowly due to being way rich?

You can email Brad for a slip number...I calculate 20%
Kept pushing thru the brakes at the line.  Saw a slight bit of KR at the shifts so I thru some more fuel at those points not realizing that the alky wasn't spraying. Unless I get a standard actuator for an s cover, I'm stuck at this level of boost.  Actuator is as long as I can safely extend it and the controller is backed out completely. I have a standard actuator, just need to fab up a way to mount it to the s cover.


I ran the numbers on the Wallace calculator and it came up with 5.916%. Am I doing something wrong?  Tire cir. is 87.8


Yes, pig rich.  That time slip posted above is the fastest mph pass and it was the last pass of the event. I didn't go wot until the shift into 3rd and I reached over and hit the test button on the alky controller. Still a work in progress
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2016, 02:09:34 PM
Is that the converter from Jake?
Yep it's from Jake.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Steve Wood on October 16 2016, 02:34:59 PM
It looks pretty good when you use the right rpm!
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2016, 02:38:47 PM
Steve I ran the numbers on the Wallace calculator and came up with 5.916%. Am I doing something wrong?  Tire circumference is 87.8
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: gusszgs on October 16 2016, 03:09:08 PM
I got 6.5% on the TCI calculator
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Steve Wood on October 16 2016, 03:27:31 PM
Wallace says 28" tire, 1.0 tranny gear, 3.42 rear gear is 146.14 mph at 6000 rpm.  What percentage is that compared to 116.5 ?

I round off to 80%


LOL...OOPS! I need to clean my glasses!

your number is right...pretty good!

Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Steve Wood on October 16 2016, 03:39:34 PM
You may need a looser converter for best times as it must be starting out in third around 4300 rpm?  With your cam and turbo, it will probably go faster if it drops to about 5200, I think
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: Pyro6 on October 16 2016, 04:26:34 PM
That 60' needs some work.
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2016, 09:38:26 PM
Here's a link to the video. Thanks to Steve Botkol for sharing it.


https://www.facebook.com/jason.goodwin.5076/posts/10209112830795846 (https://www.facebook.com/jason.goodwin.5076/posts/10209112830795846)
Title: Re: 2016 Ford vs Buick
Post by: good2win22 on October 17 2016, 11:46:06 PM
Found out why I wasn't spraying alky.... After changing the engine harness, I didn't completely seat the connector to the MAP sensor.  It's spraying now. 


Also, installed a standard waste gate actuator after locating it on the bracket and then welded it up. I didn't make any test hits. Too much stuff to do....
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