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Title: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 05 2016, 06:35:13 PM
Has anyone stepped up the new MT Radial Pro? I'm going to give the ET Streets a couple more tries this spring but if my traction wows continue I'll have to do something, and a tire change may be in order. My ET Streets are in very good shape but with this new Husek converter it's blowing them off pretty easy at low boost launch. Mind you the track conditions weren't the greatest late last year, and that's why I'll try them a few more times this spring.
Just wonder if anyone on here has them and what difference they made.


http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mtt-3754x/overview/ (http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mtt-3754x/overview/)
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 05 2016, 06:53:03 PM
No...but have read good things about them on the other board. My 28x9's just came in...at 10 percent off Summits price. I got in on a group order from Cory at Karbelt in Oshawa.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Forzfed on March 05 2016, 07:57:19 PM
Yes, but I have yet to test them at the track!  They are way softer than the regular MT drag radials.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 05 2016, 10:56:19 PM
I think with your new combo and the trans setup you need to be stepping to a 28 inch tall tire when you buy new ones. Those 255 are nice but I think the extra height gives more of a contact patch.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 06 2016, 08:13:42 AM
28" tire will keep the RPM's in a more usable powerband. I'm curious what the slip rate is with Huseks convertor.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 06 2016, 08:15:35 AM
Jim I have 28x9's and 10.5's mounted on stock GN rims. You're more than welcome to try them. Just let me know when you hit the track and I'll bring 'em.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 06 2016, 08:33:59 AM
I'd try the 28x9 and see. I would run as much pressure as possible and still get a good launch. The sidewalls are wiggly and I never like the loose feel at the top end so keeping the pressure up minimizes this. If I thought I could fit em I'd try a 29" tall tire. That is one of the reasons I have been looking at stiffer rear springs.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 06 2016, 08:43:07 AM
29's mite contact the tail pipes. Number 4 on the rear QA1's and 11 PSI in the 28's keeps it in the groove.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 06 2016, 08:52:37 AM
Also less pressure allows more growth at speed so you add height at the big end, though I'm not sure how much. I always liked my m/t slicks.

 Not as much fun as the g60-16 m&h but they always hooked. Just scary looking on the street I think. Harder to get a race even though I have em on stock t wheels.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 07 2016, 04:48:45 PM
I think with your new combo and the trans setup you need to be stepping to a 28 inch tall tire when you buy new ones. Those 255 are nice but I think the extra height gives more of a contact patch.


I'm well aware of the 28" having the bigger footprint and RPM reduction on the big end......only reason I have the 255's is the steal of a deal I got on them. Brand new $300! They were at a tire shop for big rigs and I seen them sitting in the corner and thought, that's strange, MT ET Streets at a truck tire shop?? So I inquired about them. Anywho, turns out they ordered them for a guy who's a friend of one of the workers there, and he never came in to get them. Sold them to me on the spot.


Brad, I should had that slip info on the Husek 9.5 this spring! If I can get the PL sorted out. Should be a fun year.
I'm thinking if I do opt for the Radial Pro, they should go on a 8-8.5" rim right? Maybe I hunt around for some Vectors. I think they were 8.5 wide weren't they?
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 07 2016, 04:57:21 PM
MT will likely recommend an 8" wide rim. My Billet Specialties are 8"...and I have a pair of 28x9's on them. I also bought two more Billet Specialties and mounted 28" DR's on them for the street. I run 28x9's and 10.5's on the stock 7" rims to headfake 'em at the track occasionally.. .but I don't recommend it. Stick with the correct rim width for the tire. I picked up a pair of mint 255 DR's from Brandon and am mounting them on GN rims for the street with 235's up front. Yes, I know, I have too many rims and tires. :)
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 07 2016, 05:03:51 PM
I posted on the other board awhile back asking if anyone had slip numbers for Davids LU convertor. I pretty much got jumped on for asking the question. My understanding is Davids LU convertor is made for racing unlocked. Seat of the pants doesn't tell me anything. Some real world numbers would be helpful. :)
Title: New radial pro
Post by: larrym on March 07 2016, 05:11:36 PM
Yeah there is always some "passionate discussion" when the comparisons are brought up regarding these new converters.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 07 2016, 05:30:34 PM
Well, I know this doesn't help much but, the MPH wasn't too bad when I went in the fall, 12.11 @ 113 and 24 psi
1.95 60'..........that was on the 255 Micky's with about a 0 boost launch
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Steve Wood on March 07 2016, 10:26:58 PM
Damn, Brad!  You want to involve science?  Buicks don't need no  stinkin' science, they run on magic and religion.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 08 2016, 07:40:36 AM
Nothing wrong with the 255 size but you said it yourself, you aren't hooking any more. I think they are a great tire and are on my list of "one of these days" so i can go to the track. But I'm spinnin a stock turbo and only a few mods, you have clearly out grown them with a larger turbo, great new converter and alky to make wild power.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 08 2016, 05:48:35 PM
Wild power?  :O  that's stretch'n things a tad  :)  I'm far from creating any new waves


Jury's still out on this converter, seems to work well but like Brad said, need some real world data to convince me.   
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 08 2016, 05:50:50 PM
Power is in the heads...and the stockers are a cork.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 08 2016, 06:34:23 PM
When you are DEEP in the twelves with elevens mph you are making power. Stock heads might be a cork but it doesn't take much to "massage" the bowls and see some flow. And bolting on proven aluminum heads with no work out does some of the worked heads. And it is a street car. With a sofa for a front seat. It is wild. And real nice looking from the pix I've seen.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 08 2016, 10:37:37 PM
Check this idiot.12.3 at 117...leaving from an idle...20 PSI...Erics chip on the default settings...haz ing the DR's...and rolling coal all the way down the track. I wonder if this guy could go 6.7 at 105 in the 1/8th if he dialed the tune in a bit. :)

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/armdropdragracing/media/ADR%20Videos/BradGN.mp4.html?sort=3&o=1 (http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/armdropdragracing/media/ADR%20Videos/BradGN.mp4.html?sort=3&o=1)
Title: New radial pro
Post by: larrym on March 08 2016, 11:15:49 PM
How long ago was that?
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: Scoobum on March 08 2016, 11:41:32 PM
That was the .030 over engine with the old SMC alky kit...so I'll say 3 years ago. Remember...you can't go fast with an AC convertor...or can ya'. :)
Title: New radial pro
Post by: larrym on March 09 2016, 01:01:18 AM
They were the one to have in their day.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 09 2016, 07:04:11 AM
I had one and it was instant boost with the stock turbo. I just could not keep a trans functioning back then.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: larrym on March 09 2016, 02:36:36 PM
I need more seat time its tough with only a half a dozen passes a year :013: if only we had a track I can go race 400 ft every other weekend but its a 2 hour drive each way......
And its frightening in the left lane against the wall!


Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 09 2016, 05:31:49 PM
I'm in the exact same boat Larry 2 hrs to the track for me as well. I finally pony'd up for a car trailer, so I'll be getting a lot more seat time now.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 09 2016, 09:53:36 PM
Nice. What did you drop your coin on? Pix? Remember car trailers are like chainsaws, never loan it out, it never comes back like it was.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 10 2016, 09:23:35 AM
Bought a 16' open
Came with winch and battery
I'll send you some "no so good" pics. I can't post them here. File is too big.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 10 2016, 01:12:28 PM
Looks like a nice one.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: daveismissing on March 11 2016, 11:14:11 PM
Looks pretty long if you turn a bit to the right.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: reality on March 22 2016, 01:51:54 PM
Has anyone stepped up the new MT Radial Pro? I'm going to give the ET Streets a couple more tries this spring but if my traction wows continue I'll have to do something, and a tire change may be in order. My ET Streets are in very good shape but with this new Husek converter it's blowing them off pretty easy at low boost launch. Mind you the track conditions weren't the greatest late last year, and that's why I'll try them a few more times this spring.
Just wonder if anyone on here has them and what difference they made.


http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mtt-3754x/overview/ (http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mtt-3754x/overview/)

Gus I just wanted to add If you are talking about Cayuga on thanksgiving(Can) I could only muster a2.1 -60 FT. No track prep that day. Old bfg dr. 275 60.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 22 2016, 05:27:46 PM
Yes! Oct 18 was the day......were you there that day reality? I don't think there were more than 4 cars there including myself. I honestly thought they weren't going to let us run.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: reality on March 22 2016, 06:22:22 PM
  Yes I was there in the ratty looking GN.  4 cars, when I made my 2nd pass I had to wait at the end of the lanes. But thanksgiving was the 12th. I was not there on 18th.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 22 2016, 07:31:55 PM
Was just going through my time slips......... .yep I was there on the 12th as well. Best 60' that day was a 2.05  :rolleyes;  Regardless your correct, the prep was brutal. Gives me hope for this year though
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: daveismissing on March 22 2016, 09:08:51 PM
Hey, I thought I owned the ratty looking GN, you mean there's two? :)
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: reality on March 23 2016, 07:09:09 AM
Hey, I thought I owned the ratty looking GN, you mean there's two? :)


Apparently there is.
Also charter member of original owners club.
The main problem I have is idiots won't leave it alone.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: TexasT on March 23 2016, 04:08:43 PM
Oo ova hera. And ratty. But it runs. Good yall are getting to the track.
Title: Re: New radial pro
Post by: gusszgs on March 23 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Just adds to the "sleeper" effect. And believe me, mines nutt'n to cream about



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