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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: TexasT on April 20 2015, 09:42:07 AM
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I bought this set a few years back. Anyone recognise the mfg? Sez made in usa on the chain.
(http://s25.postimg.org/aq4pq6z3z/IMAG6329.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/aq4pq6z3v/full/)
(http://s25.postimg.org/aen9dfinz/IMAG6330.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pnd6r7ccb/full/)
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Thanks
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That looks like a Cloyes piece. Does the crank gear have an O, a triangle and a square?
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It's a common parts store replacement. I've got one from TA made by SA gear in Ill and it looks just like that. Don't know if cloyes makes them for everyone but it's possible that they do.
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That looks like a Cloyes piece. Does the crank gear have an O, a triangle and a square?
Jason...it mite be an Edelbrock set. Dan Kellers car up here had weird shit on it like that when we had it apart. Looks like a high end piece compared to the K Mart blue light special bargain bin ones I use. :)
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So this looks to be a quality piece then? I guess ill get a gasket set and put it in.
Jason, I believe it does have a triangle, and some other symbols. I'll have to look again. I guess you reuse the stock fasteners?
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I see at least 2 slots for setting the timing, there may be 3 but I can't tell. The Cloyes piece I use has 3 slots. Straight up, 4 degrees advance or 4 degrees retarded. The Cloyes piece has different symbols for lining up each setting with the cam gear.
I re-use the stock fasteners. Oh, and don't forget the oil slinger. Nothing worse than putting a few bolts in and see the slinger sitting on the bench
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Did yours come with instructions? Not sure what the symbols on the crank gear mean.
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sure did come with instructions. check this link out for install instructions
http://www.cloyes.com/Images/Instruct/3%20keyway%20instructions%20(general).pdf (http://www.cloyes.com/Images/Instruct/3%20keyway%20instructions%20(general).pdf)
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Do this: http://gizmodo.com/plastic-gears-reinforced-with-carbon-fiber-could-replac-1699417719/+travis#kxsegs=o7mp4e3md,o9i68fk9g,pexi6me2k&_ga=1.69542160.1662422869.1427735189 (http://gizmodo.com/plastic-gears-reinforced-with-carbon-fiber-could-replac-1699417719/+travis#kxsegs=o7mp4e3md,o9i68fk9g,pexi6me2k&_ga=1.69542160.1662422869.1427735189)
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Probably not gonna work out as is sez 2017 before commercially available and I doubt a set for a Buick v6 is high on their gonna do list. It sez in article that gear to gear forces are at the base, I wonder of that holds true for a chain as in the timing set?
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Next question. Am I installing this straight up, advanced?
Stock cam, stock turbo for now, 42lb injectors, tt street chip.
Also, while I am getting gaskets, what should I get for the exhaust manifolds, and maybe that triangle manifold to turbo gasket? Felpro, something else? Part #s?
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Most use a very thin smear of hi temp (red) rtv...just be sure to check your exhaust manifolds for straightness. A few seconds on a belt sander does wonders to clean up the surfaces and will ensue they are flat.
If you insist on using a gasket....pers onally, I have had good success with Felpro 1400's.
Same story goes for the triangular turbo flange....use a file to ensure it's flat....again a thin smear or red hi temp rtv. If you must use a gasket, don't use a copper gasket as it will warp the flange as the bolts are tightened . You can use a graphite / fiber gasket as supplied by RJC or Special Additions.
Remflex gaskets may do the job too, but I don't have any experience with them. Just don't over torque them.
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Advancing it will give you more bottom end an you'll loose the stock max rpm. Straight up or retarding it would be the smartest Rich.
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I'll try the smear of rtv. It might have cracked again. I think I hear an exhaust leak when driving next to a wall or fence.
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I think straight up is the way for me. I am nor sure how retarding it would help unless the cam is ground advanced. I have read the stock cam is ground retarded so straight up will be retarded I think.
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Next question. Am I installing this straight up, advanced?
Stock cam, stock turbo for now, 42lb injectors, tt street chip.
Also, while I am getting gaskets, what should I get for the exhaust manifolds, and maybe that triangle manifold to turbo gasket? Felpro, something else? Part #s?
I install the timing set straight up.
I have had good luck with felpro exhaust manifold gaskets, MS90508. On the collector to the turbo, I have used both a gasket from RJC and done the file trick with a smear of high temp RTV. What I do as soon as I crank the engine, is feel around the triangle flange for leaks before things get hot.
Get that thing ready for Temple!
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Two words. Degree wheel.
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I'm with Brad always good to double check.
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On the exhaust parts use a thin smear of ultra high temp gold/copper color rtv, not the red.
If you do use gaskets on the exhaust manfold give them a smear also. My car only needs the gasket on the ds. No gasket on ps side, no gasket at turbo flange.