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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: dyermullet on October 20 2014, 09:54:39 AM
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Any good options?
Mine broke yesterday. I went to advance auto parts and bought one (doorman) it doesn't fit. The length of the inner cable is too short so when connected to the shifter it is too short to reach the trans. I then compaired it to my old one and confirmed it was incorrect. Next I tried oreily they had pioneer brand and it was incorrect also. Then I did a search on tb.com lots of people had my issue, and even if they get a cable that is correct it just fails within a few days of service.
Is there any alternatives? I guess I could try a universal cable. I was also thinking I could try to find a shop that makes custom cables. We have a company car show this saturday and I have busted my ass for last 2 weeks getting the car reassembled.
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I have not heard of one....you can shift it by grabbing the collar and twisting it if you are desperate
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I had already considered that. Think that willl pass texas inspection. :068:
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I bought and installed done f these - so far so goo. I still haven't installed my trans yet though - looks exactly like the factory one I replaced.
http://www.amazon.com/ATP-Y-651-Transhift-Cable/dp/B000C8TB3W (http://www.amazon.com/ATP-Y-651-Transhift-Cable/dp/B000C8TB3W)
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Thanks for the effort. That is the same kind of cable I have seen locally. It was not built correctly.
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Did you check with Glen at www.nos4gn.com (http://www.nos4gn.com)
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No I have not. I will give him a shot.
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GM still stocking them?
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That's odd. My car has a shift cable from AAV on it right now. It bolted right up.
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I worked at an auto parts store while in college. The only people dumber than the customers were the employees. :icon_eyes:
It easily could be packaged wrong. People buy the wrong parts and then return them. Who knows. I tired two different orielys while driving around today, but had morons waiting on me and neither even had the cable. I have the cable in my car and going to keep trying to match it up. Probably just give up and order one from rockauto, or buy a universal cable like a lokar or something. If I do the custom route I will post up the part numbers used for everyone's reference. I havn't been living here long enough for the parts store guys to know me by name and let me go get the parts off the shelf myself.
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I ordered mine from AAVs website, padded the order to $75 for free shipping (after the 30% discount) and eliminated the 'parts men' from the equation.
This one fits... http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/atp-automatic-transmission-shifter-cable-y-651/15610034-P (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/atp-automatic-transmission-shifter-cable-y-651/15610034-P)
use TRT30 for 30% off.
It's a bitch to pad the order with that discount to get free shipping. But, then again, I guess there are worse things to bitch about. Just stock up on oil filters, fuel filters, and gear dope.
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A local advance can get the Y651 same day if I order before 10. That was after I had to hangup on the person at the first one I called because she kept insisting she had to give the vehicle application before she could check availability, even though I gave her the part number. :068: Second store was much more helpful. :cheers:
Side note, advance auto will no longer order parts for you over the phone with a credit card. They said they changed their policy after the Target credit card thing. I don't know WTF that has to do with me ordering a shifter cable.
I would still rather build a cable that has no plastic on it for long term. I was looking at the universal cables with 10-32 threaded ends, but so far I havn't found an eyelet that is narrow enough to fit the trans. Mostly finding rod ends that are wider.
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I picked up the cable from advance. The box is all broken open and covered in greasy finger prints. I opened it and inside was one new cable and pieces of a broken cable. So I left the broken pieces on the counter at the store and brought the cable home. So far not off to a good start. It is longer than the original from mounting point to mounting point(will not effect function or operation), but it appears that the inner cable is over an inch shorter than what was on the car ( again taking into consideration the longer OAL, holding the innter cable and full travel). With all that said I am now going to go waste about 5 minutes of my time and go instal it on the car.
Update it didn't fit.
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I knew it wasn't going to fit but I tried it anyways. With the cable fully extended to the transmission end it is about 1 1/8" short compared to the new cable. That does not include the approx 3/4" that is being lost because that end of the cable it pulled off of the outer jacket. So the innter cable is close to 2" short compared to the outer.
Side note since moving to Houston from Indiana, customer service across the board: parts stores, restraunts, grocery store, vendors/distributors at work is all lacking compared to the midwest. I have gotten to the point now where I don't hesitate to just hangup and call right back. I started asking for paper bags at the grocery stores because the grocery baggers will put two items per bag and I end up with 100 bags. So even with paper bags they do the same thing, about 4 items per bag. The look on their face is priceless when I take the items put them all into one or two bags and hand them back the 3 or 4 empties I don't need. I am not a jerk about it or anything. If there is a line I don't hold everyone up I just consolidate in the parking lot and leave the empty bags in the cart.
I am going to call around tomorrow and find a place that manufactures cables for industrial, or boat repair or something and have them make me a cable.
I would make my own out of a TCI cable but I can't find a cable end that is 10-32 thread and narrow enough to fit over the transmission and shifter. Can only come up with rod ends, I need a flat eyelet style end.
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I knew it wasn't going to fit but I tried it anyways. With the cable fully extended to the transmission end it is about 1 1/8" short compared to the new cable. That does not include the approx 3/4" that is being lost because that end of the cable it pulled off of the outer jacket. So the innter cable is close to 2" short compared to the outer.
Side note since moving to Houston from Indiana, customer service across the board: parts stores, restraunts, grocery store, vendors/distributors at work is all lacking compared to the midwest. I have gotten to the point now where I don't hesitate to just hangup and call right back. I started asking for paper bags at the grocery stores because the grocery baggers will put two items per bag and I end up with 100 bags. So even with paper bags they do the same thing, about 4 items per bag. The look on their face is priceless when I take the items put them all into one or two bags and hand them back the 3 or 4 empties I don't need. I am not a jerk about it or anything. If there is a line I don't hold everyone up I just consolidate in the parking lot and leave the empty bags in the cart.
I am going to call around tomorrow and find a place that manufactures cables for industrial, or boat repair or something and have them make me a cable.
I would make my own out of a TCI cable but I can't find a cable end that is 10-32 thread and narrow enough to fit over the transmission and shifter. Can only come up with rod ends, I need a flat eyelet style end.
I was born in Pasadena and grew up just outside of Baytown in Mont Belvieu. Left that area 3 days after graduation for the military and only go back now for reunions. My recommendation, get out of there. I consider Houston to no longer be a part of Texas. There is more ethnic diversity in Houston than in the city of New York. Austin is not much better but it is prettier. Dallas is almost as bad too. Find yourself a little place like we did here in central Texas, I'm sure there's work in the Waco area for you. And if you miss the city, you're 90 miles from Austin or DFW. Nice thing about Texas, if you don't like where you're at, you can move 8 hours away and still be in the same state with a completely different culture
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Houston, lived in new caney three years. I think Houston is the butt crack of Texas. And if it isn't midland/odessa is.
I like dfw but it sure isn't what it was twenty years ago.
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Can you just extend that 2 inches with a bracket? (barstock-2 holes & 1 bolt+nut)
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I ordered another cable will see what I get today.
I now have a new idea. Maybe my car has the wrong cable or bracket on it. I am third owner, the second owner is a good friend of mine but who knows what the original owner did. The trans always felt like it shifteted better than stock and I had found a drain plug in the stock converter.
Anyways does anyone have any pictures of their cable and bracket? I will take some tonight and post them up. I was going to try to look through the factory service manual to see if I can see a difference. While I was laying under the car last night I was thinking that I could move the shifter bracket up one hole on the pan rail and it would be much closer than it is now. I will experiment with that tonight. Maybe I just have the wrong cable on the car this whole time.
This has gotten so bad that I am now seriously considering going to a column shifter. I never liked this clunky console shifter, and always thought the column shift on my 87 n/a regal was better.
Maybe I will end up with the worlds only column shift WE4.
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They lost my second cable. They are still looking for it.
Stopped by oreily after waiting 15 minutes the guy didn't know how to use the computer to cross reference the part number. :068:
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I knew it wasn't going to fit but I tried it anyways. With the cable fully extended to the transmission end it is about 1 1/8" short compared to the new cable. That does not include the approx 3/4" that is being lost because that end of the cable it pulled off of the outer jacket. So the innter cable is close to 2" short compared to the outer.
Side note since moving to Houston from Indiana, customer service across the board: parts stores, restraunts, grocery store, vendors/distributors at work is all lacking compared to the midwest. I have gotten to the point now where I don't hesitate to just hangup and call right back. I started asking for paper bags at the grocery stores because the grocery baggers will put two items per bag and I end up with 100 bags. So even with paper bags they do the same thing, about 4 items per bag. The look on their face is priceless when I take the items put them all into one or two bags and hand them back the 3 or 4 empties I don't need. I am not a jerk about it or anything. If there is a line I don't hold everyone up I just consolidate in the parking lot and leave the empty bags in the cart.
I am going to call around tomorrow and find a place that manufactures cables for industrial, or boat repair or something and have them make me a cable.
I would make my own out of a TCI cable but I can't find a cable end that is 10-32 thread and narrow enough to fit over the transmission and shifter. Can only come up with rod ends, I need a flat eyelet style end.
I was born in Pasadena and grew up just outside of Baytown in Mont Belvieu. Left that area 3 days after graduation for the military and only go back now for reunions. My recommendation, get out of there. I consider Houston to no longer be a part of Texas. There is more ethnic diversity in Houston than in the city of New York. Austin is not much better but it is prettier. Dallas is almost as bad too. Find yourself a little place like we did here in central Texas, I'm sure there's work in the Waco area for you. And if you miss the city, you're 90 miles from Austin or DFW. Nice thing about Texas, if you don't like where you're at, you can move 8 hours away and still be in the same state with a completely different culture
I'm here for the money after a year of being here I was making 50% more than I was in Indiana. I won't be spending my whole life here.
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Can you just extend that 2 inches with a bracket? (barstock-2 holes & 1 bolt+nut)
I might have to look into this idea. I missed your post until now.
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Second ATP Y651 cable from advance warehouse finally showed up at the store. It was also in package that was preopened, but no extra pieces of broken cable inside this one.
It was a different cable than the first one but it was still the wrong thing.
I went to a custom cable place north side of houston but they don't make anything this small, I looked at what they could do but it wasn't going to work. I have a good idea in my head now how to construct this, so I am just going to order a bunch of parts from summit and return the pieces I don't use.
I am getting real sick of this car. :068: I am reminded why I let it sit for 4 years when the trans gave up.
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Have you looked at a hurst or B&M cable.
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Have you looked at a hurst or B&M cable.
That is what I am going to end up with. Tci also has good options
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doesnt highway stars make one?