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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: Shimy87 on July 22 2013, 01:50:37 PM

Title: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 22 2013, 01:50:37 PM
finally got some time to get this installed...WO W!!! its way better than I expected and I have done next to no tuning so far. Cant wait to see what it will run at the track when its dialed in. Next track date is sept 29th.
 
Still have the wheel hop problem when doing a burn out. Much worse now with more power. Have helwig rear bar mounted in middle hole. Does using the end hole increase traction or decrease? Also can I lubricate these energy suspension bushings? When installed they already have grease between the bushing and sleeve? If I have it up on a lift, can i push up on one rear tire and tell if I have some binding or wouldnt i be able to tell that way?
 
Thanks for any advice!!!
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: phil_long on July 22 2013, 04:44:43 PM
I cant help with any of your questions(sorry :hmm ), but that's great about the alky!!  How many lbs of boost are you running? Do you have Razor's kit?
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 22 2013, 04:57:04 PM
The kit is from Alky Control, very nice, easy to follow instructions. 24 LBS of boost and O2 numbers are still above 815 so I will be pulling some fuel when I get a chance to mess with it more. I wont be adding any more boost.
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: PacecarTA on July 22 2013, 06:35:10 PM
wheel hop means you need to fix the rear shocks
....might be time for some new ones

end holes would decrease stiffness

alky is addictive  ..i dont miss those days of race gas even when you could get good race fuel at around $5 a gallon ...now c16 is approaching $20 gallon
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 22 2013, 07:16:12 PM
Never even thought about shocks! Any recomendations??
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: PacecarTA on July 22 2013, 08:02:30 PM
anything new will be better than worn out
kyb
bilstien ,(stiffer)
or even monroe gasmatics
 
more complex track oriented
comp engineering 3way adjust , ( these arent expensive)
QA1 adjust (single or double.......$$$
Strange adjust (single or double).....$$$$
top dog  serious track car ...AFCO dbl adjust  .......$$$$$$$
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 22 2013, 11:44:51 PM
Car rides well. No bouncing , handles okay. How can I tell if they are bad? They are kyb shocks so not original, car has 60000 miles
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: SuperSix on July 23 2013, 08:03:37 AM
How old are they? Or how long have you had the car?

The GN I bought supposedly had "new" Monroe Gasmatics. That meant I had to replace them. The old ones probably had 5k miles on them, if that - and this car has sat for ~6 years or so.

I replaced them with the same shock, Monroe Gasmatics. It's not drivable yet, so I don't know if the ride changed, but I do know that one of the shocks I pulled out didn't rebound when I compressed it.

They are cheap, and easy to replace. You could put the KYBs back in if there's no change.

Personally, I have never experienced wheel hop in a TR.
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: phil_long on July 23 2013, 08:55:46 AM
Damn, 24lbs huh?  :rock:   Thats tight. Hopefully my day will come. Idk why i always thought Razor's kit and alkycontrol was the same. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: TURBOPOWERED68 on July 23 2013, 09:21:25 AM
Damn, 24lbs huh?  :rock:   Thats tight. Hopefully my day will come. Idk why i always thought Razor's kit and alkycontrol was the same. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
they are the same person-- That doesn't make sense but you know what i mean.
the guy Julio Don AKA Razor (His TB.com name) AKA Alkycontrol.co m (the business)   
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: phil_long on July 23 2013, 04:16:15 PM
Oh.....so why did he tell me no?  :chin:
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Steve Wood on July 23 2013, 04:18:41 PM
He did not tell you "No".  He gave you the company.  Quite possible he does not know that Julio is Razor is Alky Control
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 23 2013, 04:51:27 PM
He did not tell you "No".  He gave you the company.  Quite possible he does not know that Julio is Razor is Alky Control

Sorry about confusion, I just gave the company name, I thought it was also refered to as razors kit but wasnt sure??
 
Steve, glad you chimed in, was wanting your input on my wheel hop issue. Now with added power if i do a burnout ( i only spin them for about 10 feet, dont want to break something) it will leave a six inch black mark, jump ahead six inches and burn again....a dotted line affect. If it is the bushing binding, can i loosen the nuts on the bolt back say 1/16 and put another nut on as a locker and run it that way? That should eliminate any possibility of binding there. Was just going to try new shocks but dont want to spend the $120 from Rock auto as the ones on the car ride fine.
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Steve Wood on July 23 2013, 04:55:36 PM
I don't think it is the bushings.

Both wheels are showing the same thing?
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Steve Wood on July 23 2013, 05:06:30 PM
and the same length of stripe?
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 23 2013, 06:20:51 PM
Yes both sides, same hop
Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: PacecarTA on July 23 2013, 06:28:01 PM
sig says bushings
are your  lower arms stock?
did you do bushings in axle ears

sig says helwig   which means the stock bar is no longer on the arms
if you have stock did you replace the swaybar bolts (and inner support)  or  box the lowers ?




Title: Re: alky is awesome
Post by: Shimy87 on July 23 2013, 07:08:51 PM
Stock arms, boxed. Helwig sway bar with hardware they supplied. Energy suspension poly bushings in lower arms stock bushings in upper arms
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