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Title: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 13 2013, 07:20:23 PM
Im going to pick up my car tomorrow from the shop.  I finally got the valve springs installed.  I also bought an adjustable wg that's sitting in the passenger seat, dual fans, and casper's kit for the dual fans also sitting in the backseat.  Back to adjusting and tuning when I get this knock gauge installed.  Keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 13 2013, 07:21:39 PM
Me and my cousin Charles also got the front and back bumper fillers installed on the car.  Although it needs paint, it looks a lot better than it did when they were missing. :rock:
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 13 2013, 07:59:22 PM
'bout time you all got up and did something!
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 13 2013, 10:44:22 PM
Lol. Agreed
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 15 2013, 04:00:44 PM
So, I installed the Knock gauge correctly.  Still not getting a reading though. I also installed the adjustable WG. The c-clip came off with ease, but I didn't realize that I was going to need a gasket after removing the oil tube from the bottom of the turbo.  I should've planned better.  Now i have to order one b/c no local parts store carry them in stock.  Keep you all posted on my progress. 
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: granitestategn on June 15 2013, 04:10:21 PM
Why don't you just make one....it's not that hard. The parts store has gasket material if you don't already have some. BTW, you should always have some.....
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 15 2013, 04:40:40 PM
Had no idea about this.  Do I just walk in any Parts store and ask for some gasket material?  I'd prefer that anyway!!!  Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 15 2013, 04:49:44 PM
wondering why you removed the oil drain tube.

Do I understand you don't get any lights for a second or two when you turn the key on? Which knock sensor did you buy?

yes, just ask for gasket material and hope for the best.  Don't get the real thin stuff as it always seemed to leak for me
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 15 2013, 05:04:29 PM
Correct, no lights during startup out side of the middle indicating that it's on.  The gauge came from Kirbans Performance, and it does not have a name brand on it.  All the other gauges that came in the "kit" that my wife bought say VDO on them.  My boost gauge is vdo as well.  Is it possible that I ruined the gauge by hooking the power up to a switch before instead of the correct way?  Thanks for inquiring.  Im heading off to the parts store to grab some gasket material.  Car runs great with these valve springs installed
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 16 2013, 01:09:42 PM
Got everything bolted back up.  Got the hose from the compressor port running straight to the wastegate.  No chance to drive and check to see what the boost is set at, but its not too much shorter than the stock rod right now.  Keep you all posted.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Scoobum on June 16 2013, 02:12:08 PM
'bout time you all got up and did something!

Easy Steve...easy. He's been on a whirlwind autograph/question/answer tour of the nations finest bowling ball alleys since his second 300 game.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2013, 05:50:08 PM
 :rock: :cheers:
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 16 2013, 07:40:59 PM
Lol!  Thats exactly what's been up.  Hahahaha.  Drove the car today.  Seems to be only making about 9 lbs of boost right now.  Boost comes on a lot quicker than the stock setup though, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2013, 09:48:28 PM
should come up slower if everything was working right...but, now you have to shorten the rod to get the boost up
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2013, 09:48:46 PM
and you don't do anything in a whirlwind!
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Forzfed on June 16 2013, 10:32:43 PM
Me and my cousin Charles also got the front and back bumper fillers installed on the car.  Although it needs paint, it looks a lot better than it did when they were missing. :rock:

Charles is your cousin?  I always thought he was your brother.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 16 2013, 10:55:31 PM
Nah, he's my big cousin.  We're like bro's though.  Hey Steve, it seems to be spooling a little bit quicker...mayb e smoother is a better word to describe it.  No whirlwind huh?  Lol.  Not interested in sending the heads to the stratosphere(Earl's words).
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 08:46:40 AM
Im curious as the the adjustable WG i bought.  Initially when i installed it, the boost was set at about 9 lbs.  I shortened the rod a bit, and now my boost is at about 12.5-13 lbs...my only issue is, I dont have too much further to shorten it.  Lol.  Sheesh
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 19 2013, 09:40:25 AM
Be sure you connected the hoses such that the "Y" is installed correctly.  Long side of the "Y" with the restrictor in the end goes to the port on the turbo compressor housing.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 10:48:09 AM
I have it completely wrong then.  I thought we eliminated the "Y" and just ran the hose directly from the compressor to the WG, and that was it...I must have been confused
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 19 2013, 01:00:52 PM
No, that is what we call Tuner Style....but it should give more boost than that if the rod is shortened

I prefer to use the wastegate solenoid if it works, but if not, either Tuner Style as you did, or with a manual boost controller which should let the boost come up faster
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Just a Six? on June 19 2013, 01:09:10 PM
Just too add to what Steve said this may help you out?
I saw this one day a while back while snooping around over there & decided to keep it for later use so I hope it helps you out!  :cheers:
 
 
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/wheres-the-boost.392804/#post-3181602 (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/wheres-the-boost.392804/#post-3181602)
 
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 02:40:12 PM
Thanks a lot for this Supersix.  My problem(after reading that) is that I removed that restrictor piece(the "Y") completely, and I wasn't suppose to. I guess I need to lenghten this WG rod before installing this "Y" piece back on there.  Is it safe to say that the other part of the "Y" bleeds off into the atmosphere?  Thanks so much for that thread
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 02:47:02 PM
Shout out to you too Steve.  Advice is always on point. :atbeer:
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 19 2013, 03:29:16 PM
It should work with just the hose between the compressor housing  and the actuator, but you have to shorten the rod more
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 03:50:20 PM
Right. Its working, but I've only been able to adjust the rod so much. I dont have many more turns before its maxed out. Maybe two more turns max i have left.
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Just a Six? on June 19 2013, 03:51:17 PM
It should work with just the hose between the compressor housing  and the actuator, but you have to shorten the rod more

Thats how mine is now but I've only been out twice for maybe 5 miles total!!  :013:
 
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 19 2013, 07:48:56 PM
Only twice??
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Just a Six? on June 20 2013, 03:20:12 PM
Drove for an hour today & going for a 2 hour trip tomorrow. Everytime I felt like driving it was raining! Plus my left leg is getting bad but I just had a CT scan at 1:30 & see the surgeon again next Tuesday for final plan of attack. Now that it feels like summer I'll get out some more i hope!!
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 21 2013, 10:08:06 AM
Thats what I like to hear Just a Six. 
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: phil_long on June 21 2013, 10:20:36 AM
Unfortunately, I think this wg actuator i bought is no good.  I put the "Y" piece back on, and the car spikes to maybe 13 lbs, then fall back down to 11-12.  Def not the 15 i was hoping to get.  I think I'll shorten it to the max and see what happens. 
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 21 2013, 10:39:44 AM
yes, it sounds bad to me assuming you don/t have a big exhaust leak before the turbo
Title: Re: Finally
Post by: Steve Wood on June 21 2013, 10:58:20 AM
or for some reason, the puck is suddenly not sealing the hole
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