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Title: Cooler install pictures
Post by: dyermullet on August 05 2012, 01:42:12 AM
I need to install a trans cooler, and I am looking for pictures of other guys setups for ideas how to mount.  I am going to buy a bar and plate style cooler, and want to install it in front of my condenser.  I am not going to use the zip ties that go through the condensor so I am just looking for ideas for how to mount it.  I am thinking about making some kind of brackets maybe out of aluminum strap. 

I should also add I have seen pictures of where guys have installed them under the car and under the battery tray and such.  I don't have a front mount and don't want to deal with wiring a fan right now, so I just want to put it up front.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: Steve Wood on August 05 2012, 09:52:53 AM
Most I have seen were tied to the pair of cross bars in front of the condensor..zip ties, tie wraps, whatever they are called is the easiest way
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: SuperSix on August 05 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Most I have seen were tied to the pair of cross bars in front of the condensor..zip ties, tie wraps, whatever they are called is the easiest way

I have done this on all Trs I have owned.. If I can, I use 2 cable ties per corner, large, strong cable ties too. I haven't had one fail yet.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: dyermullet on August 05 2012, 12:46:53 PM
Ok I will go look at the car and see how that will work out.  Along that same track I found this where instead of zip ties someone used the rubber insulated clamps, I will look into that too.  http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/installation-tips-on-a-hayden-1679-trans-cooler.374369/ (http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/installation-tips-on-a-hayden-1679-trans-cooler.374369/)


I also found different variations of this:  http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/attachments/transmission-section/30630d1201215963-trans-cooler-img_0172.jpg (http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/attachments/transmission-section/30630d1201215963-trans-cooler-img_0172.jpg)

My question about that is what is are they using with the two bolts to clamp onto the supports.   I might try to do something using that clamp arrangement, mount the cooler to the far PS to the core support itself and then use a clamp like that on just one end. 
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: SuperSix on August 05 2012, 01:02:27 PM
Ok I will go look at the car and see how that will work out.  Along that same track I found this where instead of zip ties someone used the rubber insulated clamps, I will look into that too.  http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/installation-tips-on-a-hayden-1679-trans-cooler.374369/ (http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/installation-tips-on-a-hayden-1679-trans-cooler.374369/)


I also found different variations of this:  http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/attachments/transmission-section/30630d1201215963-trans-cooler-img_0172.jpg (http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/attachments/transmission-section/30630d1201215963-trans-cooler-img_0172.jpg)

My question about that is what is are they using with the two bolts to clamp onto the supports.   I might try to do something using that clamp arrangement, mount the cooler to the far PS to the core support itself and then use a clamp like that on just one end.

There's a myriad of ways to attach them. I like the insulated clamp idea.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: earlbrown on August 05 2012, 01:45:28 PM
Those clamps real name is "adel clamps"(actually it's  "MS21919 aircraft clamp" as Adel is a brand name ).  I'm sure you'd can get a huge bag off the internets for the same price as a local 5-pack.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: gnonyx on August 05 2012, 02:29:40 PM
It looks good!
I realized you are missing one of the support bars so I can understand why the vertical bar to support external tranny cooler.
I got a "U" shape clamp from Home Depot and installed the external tranny cooler on both support bars.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: gnonyx on August 05 2012, 02:33:41 PM
How did you hook up the external tranny coolers hose?
Wait something like this?
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: SuperSix on August 05 2012, 03:23:31 PM
I bought a few bags of the Ideal brand insulated clamps off of eBay very cheap.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: dyermullet on August 05 2012, 09:36:47 PM
It looks good!
I realized you are missing one of the support bars so I can understand why the vertical bar to support external tranny cooler.
I got a "U" shape clamp from Home Depot and installed the external tranny cooler on both support bars.

Were they from the electrical section?
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: dyermullet on August 05 2012, 09:37:31 PM
Thanks for the pictures everyone.  Now i have some ideas.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: gnonyx on August 05 2012, 10:43:20 PM
It looks good!
I realized you are missing one of the support bars so I can understand why the vertical bar to support external tranny cooler.
I got a "U" shape clamp from Home Depot and installed the external tranny cooler on both support bars.

Were they from the electrical section?

I believe they were in the garage door section and the "U" shape threaded ends are 10-24
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: 1KWIKSIX on August 07 2012, 08:16:47 AM
Here's what I have installed. Bought it in a kit, comes complete with a powder coated mounting bracket & hardware + trick 5/16" reverse flare fittings on connecting hoses.


Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: Steve Wood on August 07 2012, 08:49:43 AM
Nice!  It will take an Earl Brown inspiration to top that! :041: :027:
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: gnonyx on August 07 2012, 10:11:24 AM
I agree this kit is great, and it's made to be a plug and play type, and it should be if you're going to spend $280.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Grand-National-Custom-Transmission-Cooler-Kit-/320851552093?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab43e275d&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Grand-National-Custom-Transmission-Cooler-Kit-/320851552093?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab43e275d&vxp=mtr)
 
Personnally, my external tranny cooler, and the supported hardware cost was about $50.00, and that's for something that is out of sight.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: Steve Wood on August 07 2012, 10:16:15 AM
I prefer the quick change set up using velcro
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: 1KWIKSIX on August 07 2012, 11:27:53 AM
Each to his own!


This was the cleanest set up I had ever seen.......the custom laser cut powder coated bracket & mounting pieces and proper connecting line sets made it the "closest thing to a factory set up" that I've ever seen.


It was simply a bolt on installation.. .very well engineered & constructed.  Guess it depends on what you're looking for in a cooler set up.  I wanted a clean installation.. ...wanted to get rid of the insert fittings & hose barb set up used on my previous transmission cooler.  After dropping some CA$H into my transmission / torque converter, I wanted to make sure that I had a very good cooler.  Don't mind spending some money on a quality part.


After the installation, all I can say is that I was impressed with the quality of components used & would definitely recommend this kit to anyone considering an external transmission cooler.


Dave
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: Steve Wood on August 07 2012, 11:31:59 AM
It's really a professional looking install :)
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: Steve Wood on August 07 2012, 11:39:31 AM
The smallest B&M plate cooler that I would use is about $77.00 and I prefer the larger one that is about $93.  If you want to go the steel braided path, things can go up quick :)
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: gnonyx on August 07 2012, 11:58:33 AM
Each to his own!


This was the cleanest set up I had ever seen.......the custom laser cut powder coated bracket & mounting pieces and proper connecting line sets made it the "closest thing to a factory set up" that I've ever seen.


It was simply a bolt on installation.. .very well engineered & constructed.  Guess it depends on what you're looking for in a cooler set up.  I wanted a clean installation.. ...wanted to get rid of the insert fittings & hose barb set up used on my previous transmission cooler.  After dropping some CA$H into my transmission / torque converter, I wanted to make sure that I had a very good cooler.  Don't mind spending some money on a quality part.


After the installation, all I can say is that I was impressed with the quality of components used & would definitely recommend this kit to anyone considering an external transmission cooler.


Dave

Hi Dave,
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the kit. The installation looks professionally done. If I had the money I too would have gotten the kit, but living on retirement one can put the extra cash on other visible things. Thanks for the photo, Julio
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: earlbrown on August 07 2012, 01:47:43 PM
Nice!  It will take an Earl Brown inspiration to top that! :041: :027:

Man, if you're going to Rube Goldberg something at least make it tacky. I'll stick with my "liberated" Adel clamps and one zip tie. (the oil cooler brace is a piece of metal that holds fresnel lens' in big screen TVs)

$280 looks like a powerlogger/PLX wideband and a $30 cooler to me.
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: earlbrown on August 07 2012, 01:52:01 PM
How the hell do you delete a double post?
Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: daveismissing on August 07 2012, 01:53:44 PM
Earl, how much labour to get to the point in you photos where the headerpanel is removed?
Guessing we'd then double that for a northern car.

Title: Re: Cooler install pictures
Post by: earlbrown on August 07 2012, 03:57:25 PM
My header panel was removed because my car was stolen and destroyed. I knew I was going to do coolers and engine swaps so I didn't install it until last.
  When the oil cooler turned out to leak I popped it out without even removing the grille.
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