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Title: Power Antennas
Post by: Steve Wood on July 24 2012, 10:03:10 AM
It amazes me that there are no quality replacement antennas on the market. 

One of mine gave up the ghost and the motor burned up so it is not a question of installing a new cable.  Tried to buy one from  Glen and was told that they had not been able to find a supplier that could furnish one that would work consistently so they no longer offered them.

One would think that such things would be almost universal between car lines
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 24 2012, 10:36:48 AM
David was saying something about Brian doing rebuilds with a core?
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: SuperSix on July 24 2012, 10:40:12 AM
I wouldn't trust anything he "rebuilt".
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Just a Six? on July 24 2012, 11:51:52 AM
It's a GM unit that looks like brand new. Got the Made in Mexico sticker etc. I know it may be questionable but my original lasted about 12 years & that GM replacement lasted about 12 years. let's see how many I get from this one?? Just going by "looks" it would get a 9 from me. I doubt he does more than send them out somewhere & adds $100 profit since he pays $100 for cores & the rebuild kits are $80+ & I paid him $300 for it??
 
The reason I give it a 9 out of 10 is on the original the signal wire to antenna mounts on the old one at either 12 or 3 position. The one from him mounts at 3 or 6 position.
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 24 2012, 08:56:20 PM
It amazes me that there are no quality replacement antennas on the market. 

One of mine gave up the ghost and the motor burned up so it is not a question of installing a new cable.  Tried to buy one from  Glen and was told that they had not been able to find a supplier that could furnish one that would work consistently so they no longer offered them.

One would think that such things would be almost universal between car lines

Steve, I too was looking for a replacement, but realize I repaired the nylon cable.
This site claimed is a direct replacement, but I don't see the bracket that is attached from the mast. Maybe you can continue inquiring about this.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Buick/Regal/AC_Delco/Antenna/1987/Grand_National/6_Cyl_3-dot-8L/AC88891017.html?intcmpid=Product+Listings+Best+Seller (http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Buick/Regal/AC_Delco/Antenna/1987/Grand_National/6_Cyl_3-dot-8L/AC88891017.html?intcmpid=Product+Listings+Best+Seller)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Steve Wood on July 24 2012, 10:11:39 PM
Wow, they have become proud of those things!  Maybe my son is right when he says, "Dad, no one listens to radio anymore! Ipod is where it's at, or upload to the cloud"

Out here in the boondocks, satellite is where it's at as far as I am concerned :D
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: SuperSix on July 24 2012, 11:08:49 PM
$144.72 @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG (http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG)

Rock Auto doesn't show that AC Delco PN.
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 24 2012, 11:31:19 PM
Wow, they have become proud of those things!  Maybe my son is right when he says, "Dad, no one listens to radio anymore! Ipod is where it's at, or upload to the cloud"

Out here in the boondocks, satellite is where it's at as far as I am concerned :D

Besides putting a wire hanger in place of the antenna, and don't want to deal with the monthly cost of satellite, you could get what I used. I have an mp3 usb music player (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-USB-8G-8GB-WMA-MP3-MUSIC-PLAYER-FM-RADIO-VOICE-RECORDER-LCD-SCREEN-/280916069530?pt=Other_MP3_Players&hash=item4167e70c9a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-USB-8G-8GB-WMA-MP3-MUSIC-PLAYER-FM-RADIO-VOICE-RECORDER-LCD-SCREEN-/280916069530?pt=Other_MP3_Players&hash=item4167e70c9a))
 
with a car mp3 adapter (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Fm-Radio-Transmitter-Adapter-for-iPod-MP3-Player-/280794742694?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4160abbfa6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Fm-Radio-Transmitter-Adapter-for-iPod-MP3-Player-/280794742694?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item4160abbfa6))
 
You can download music from your laptop to the usb mp3 player and then plug the car mp3 adapter into your car's cigarette plug, turn on your car stereo and tune to the same frequency. The music will then play through the car speakers. I only gave you an example of the car mp3 adapter as there is many to choice from. The mp3 player is the one I have since it uses only one "AAA" battery, 8GB of memory to be use for anything, not just for music. If you are more interested in this set up, let me know or PM. Julio
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Steve Wood on July 24 2012, 11:50:38 PM
Thanks, Julio.  I am familiar with those.  :)  I have been kicking over the various ways to deal with it...Radio still works, but, I don't have many choices out here with regard to conventional radio.  I do have Sirius, but, I seldom use it....just aggravates me the antenna will not go up and down without my assistance  :D
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 08:06:02 AM
...just aggravates me the antenna will not go up and down without my assistance  :D

Be glad that's the only thing...


 ;)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 08:42:49 AM
$144.72 @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG (http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG)

Rock Auto doesn't show that AC Delco PN.

Odd looking RF cable?
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 25 2012, 09:28:04 AM
Thanks, Julio.  I am familiar with those.  :)  I have been kicking over the various ways to deal with it...Radio still works, but, I don't have many choices out here with regard to conventional radio.  I do have Sirius, but, I seldom use it....just aggravates me the antenna will not go up and down without my assistance  :D

This may sound crazy, and I don't if they could do it or not, but at one time I though of having the motor rewind by a electric motor shop, if my problem was the electric motor was burnt. It was then after taking it apart is when I found the nylon cable snap a few inches from where it connects to antenna.
Do you know what other type of cars besides TR are using just the motor itself and then rebuild the 1/4 century system?
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: ULYCYC on July 25 2012, 10:26:07 AM
Having a motor rewound in the usa can be expensive.  The oem units come from china and they get paid a eggroll a month. :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: $1987 GN$ on July 25 2012, 11:40:12 AM
$144.72 @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG (http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG)

Rock Auto doesn't show that AC Delco PN.

Odd looking RF cable?

Looks like a late version bulkhead motorola connector and a tnc connection.

AJ___
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 12:23:06 PM
Mini UHF more likely.
A male bulkhead is new to me?
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: SuperSix on July 25 2012, 12:31:17 PM
(http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/attachments/remotes-cables-accessories-tweaks/9379d1221665305-how-solder-illustrated-diy-guide-making-your-own-cables-weller-wp35-iron-.jpg)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Just a Six? on July 25 2012, 12:43:15 PM
$144.72 @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG (http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-88891017-Power-Antenna-Assembly/dp/B000S2PFTG)

Rock Auto doesn't show that AC Delco PN.

Odd looking RF cable?

Neither of the two units from Amazon & Parts Warehouse look like my stock GM.
I just sold the core locally & can take a pic before I ship it.
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: ULYCYC on July 25 2012, 01:08:04 PM
Dave if Zap can use a coat hanger antenna why can't you :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Just a Six? on July 25 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Dave if Zap can use a coat hanger antenna why can't you :icon_smile:

I was thinking a little pulley system in the car would do the trick. Bunch of string & some assorted items like zip ties & it would last forever!!  :)
 
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 01:44:42 PM
Dave if Zap can use a coat hanger antenna why can't you :icon_smile:

We could go back to that P.O.S. windshield antenna where the station disappeared every you went around a corner.

HEY! this is STEVE's Project.  :sw:
Can't you see we are all just HELPING  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 01:45:48 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yf4lxbgUP88/TIeRECjzU_I/AAAAAAAACbk/V7bAjPAT41E/s1600/soldier.gif)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Steve Wood on July 25 2012, 01:52:17 PM
Dave if Zap can use a coat hanger antenna why can't you :icon_smile:

We could go back to that P.O.S. windshield antenna where the station disappeared every you went around a corner.

HEY! this is STEVE's Project.  :sw:
Can't you see we are all just HELPING  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You know, I think that the car that needs one does have a windshield antenna!  Never noticed a plug hanging, tho...Most of the ones I had worked okay...not exactly a plethora of stations to choose from out here.  Maybe I could mount a flowervase in the hole in the fender
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 02:03:01 PM
  Maybe I could mount a flowervase in the hole in the fender

Got a VW dealer local?
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Steve Wood on July 25 2012, 03:02:40 PM
nope...
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: daveismissing on July 25 2012, 04:20:32 PM
(http://denisewymore.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/budvase.jpg)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 25 2012, 06:16:34 PM
Having a motor rewound in the usa can be expensive.  The oem units come from china and they get paid a eggroll a month. :icon_eyes:

Many, Many, Many years ago when I finished and left the USMC I worked in a electric motor shop in Long Island NY. I still keep contact of the owner and I will ask him about these little electric antenna motor. The worst he could said it will be expensive to rewind, but then again what is the cost of rewind against a new one that still has to be modify to fit.
 
Anyone has any ideas of what type of compatible cars that uses the electric antenna to the TR?  I'm not talking about the antenna itself, maybe do a motor switch.
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Just a Six? on July 25 2012, 06:27:09 PM
In my case the motors weren't the issue it was always the cable inside that snapped. I think there are more issues of that than the actual motor burning up?  :chin:
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 25 2012, 08:16:29 PM
In my case the motors weren't the issue it was always the cable inside that snapped. I think there are more issues of that than the actual motor burning up?  :chin:

This thread started with motor being burnt and no replacement, since you asked about the nylon cable then read this. I was lucky to repaired my nylon cable, but if the cable do snap again then I do the following TurboBuick member did as he replaced his TTA electric antenna nylon cable with 3/32 galvanized bare cable for less than $2.00.
Sign into TurboBuick.com and paste this site:
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/how-to-fix-your-broken-antenna-chord-for-less-than-2-and-never-break-again.369135/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/how-to-fix-your-broken-antenna-chord-for-less-than-2-and-never-break-again.369135/)
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: Just a Six? on July 25 2012, 09:04:23 PM
In my case the motors weren't the issue it was always the cable inside that snapped. I think there are more issues of that than the actual motor burning up?  :chin:

This thread started with motor being burnt and no replacement, since you asked about the nylon cable then read this. I was lucky to repaired my nylon cable, but if the cable do snap again then I do the following TurboBuick member did as he replaced his TTA electric antenna nylon cable with 3/32 galvanized bare cable for less than $2.00.
Sign into TurboBuick.com and paste this site:
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/how-to-fix-your-broken-antenna-chord-for-less-than-2-and-never-break-again.369135/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/how-to-fix-your-broken-antenna-chord-for-less-than-2-and-never-break-again.369135/)

Good info to keep stored for next time! And I know there will be a next time on my car!  :atbeer:
Title: Re: Power Antennas
Post by: gnonyx on July 26 2012, 05:53:47 PM
Having a motor rewound in the usa can be expensive.  The oem units come from china and they get paid a eggroll a month. :icon_eyes:

Many, Many, Many years ago when I finished and left the USMC I worked in a electric motor shop in Long Island NY. I still keep contact of the owner and I will ask him about these little electric antenna motor. The worst he could said it will be expensive to rewind, but then again what is the cost of rewind against a new one that still has to be modify to fit.
 
Anyone has any ideas of what type of compatible cars that uses the electric antenna to the TR?  I'm not talking about the antenna itself, maybe do a motor switch.

Today I contact my friend who owes the Electric motor shop, and I asked him if he rewind alternator? He doesn't work on any DC only AC, but he did mention to try a place that rebuilds starters and maybe alternator. I don't know any place in SC since my moved from NY as I'm still GPS the surrounding areas. If I do find such a place I will post for all to know.
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