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Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 18 2006, 03:43:03 PM
....from Sonic Wave International in the mail last night. I was excited at first, but it is the type of offer I've read about before where they want a deposit from you to offset their manufacturing and distribution costs...placin g you on a sort of probation until they see how the first disc pans out. I've been bumping around the 'net all day (even searching the Better Business Bureau) and can't seem to find a shred of negative press about these guys. Jim Martin (of Faith No More fame) has apparently released an album through them as well as that dude from Celtic Frost. I'm kinda not sure how to feel about this offer. Any Indie label that has the distribution capabilities that they claim to have is a good thing....
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Top Speed on January 18 2006, 04:03:42 PM
Congrats! How much is the depost, ODB (ole deaf bastard)?
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 18 2006, 04:11:49 PM
$2000 with them paying a 15% royalty from then on......
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: 87natty on January 18 2006, 04:13:03 PM
Hmm... So all the promo is on you?
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 18 2006, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: "87natty @ Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:13 pm"
Hmm... So all the promo is on you?
No, they take care of promotion, but the contract does not spell out exactly what or where....it's their option. But it does clearly state that they distribute to (but not limited to) Best Buy, Amazon.com, CDnow.com, FYE and a bunch of others. Hmmmm. I retain all rights to the material and have complete artistic freedom with the music and imagery.
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Be4u on January 18 2006, 04:32:10 PM
After reading this thread I feel that you'll be signing up...

http://www.forum4designers.com/message160588.html

Looks like Sonic is a positive messege type of operation?

http://www.winxptalk.com/ftopic551.html

more reading.....

http://www.senerap.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=113
http://www.rockband.com/band.asp?sbn=pralay
http://www.rockband.com/band.asp?sbn=mindcycle
http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?p=1412181#post1412181
http://www.musiczone.com.sg/E_SMF.htm
http://www.mbus.com/bands/genadm/Mind.Cycle.htm
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 18 2006, 04:41:49 PM
Hey thanks, Robert- you were able to dig up a few things that I hadn't found. I'm obviously gonna wait it out and see what else rolls in, but perhaps this doesn't look so bad after all.
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Racer X on January 18 2006, 04:52:04 PM
First off congrats!

Ok, these guys are in business to make money. You are an unkown quantity to them and they need to at least break even on you in the event that you product doesn't pan out. If you can't find any negative press that's a good start. In today's interent there is a LOT of bashing of good companies out there and as Buick Owners no one knows this better than we do.

Make sure you really understand that contract and if you have a lawyer friend have him scan it over as well.

$2,000.00 doesn't really seem that much to me for what they *may* be providing. Good luck and I hope it all turns out for you!  :supz:
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: ledzeppac on January 18 2006, 08:40:32 PM
Congrats.!!!!!! but yah it sounds like they want to cover their asses if you don't sell anything....   So if you think you can "make it" then give it a try.....
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: sun dog on January 19 2006, 12:34:51 AM
How did they find out about you?  It's sounds good, but the BS meter is on.  I know I don't have to tell you the obvious, but $2000 is way cheap for the services they are proposing.  Just to make a good amount of Cds it would take more than that.  It reminds me of the invention submission corps that tell you how great your product is gonna sell after you give them $5000+ to patent it.
 
On the other hand they might just be fishing for new talent and you might have what they want.  In that case make demands thru an entertainment atty.  When they mentioned letting you keep rights and artistic freedom is what sounds from the norm.
 
I would guess the $2000 would just be the start of the asking for more money, but I'm an angry pessimist.  
 :rock:
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Be4u on January 19 2006, 05:53:01 AM
IMHO, I would get a list of questions together and contact them.

I'd like to know the answers to...

Who do you distribute to?

What exactly does my 2k get me?

When will you ask me for more money?

When this first step pans out...whats involved in the next step?
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Recklessrob on January 19 2006, 07:53:21 AM
Sometimes these things sound better than they are. I've recieved
at least a dozen of similar offers like that over the years, even before
the internet. When you copyright any material with the US Copyright office,
your put on a mailing list. Most of these people have never heard your material.
With the net, places like myspace and pure volume are their hunting grounds.
That does sound better than most of them though.
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 19 2006, 11:32:34 AM
It's bullshit- no way am I sending them ANY kind of check.
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Recklessrob on January 19 2006, 12:43:26 PM
Hey, what do you thinkabout the idea of
Natty, you, and I making our own indie label ?
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 19 2006, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:43 am"
Hey, what do you thinkabout the idea of
Natty, you, and I making our own indie label ?
I love the idea but wouldn't have the first clue about how one does that.



Edit: It seems like everybody and their mother is doing lately, so how hard could it be?
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Be4u on January 19 2006, 01:09:23 PM
RR is right about MySpace. Lotsa bands have pages. You can upload your music and stuff.
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: 87natty on January 19 2006, 02:46:46 PM
I've been telling Sylvan to make a Myspace page, it's effects are far reaching...

I was going to do it without his permission! But laziness got the best of me.

Rob, if we all lived within 1,000 miles of each other, a label wouldn't be so hard.
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 19 2006, 02:50:54 PM
I suck at computers and am skeptical of how effective a site like myspace could be.....I'll do, though.


1000 miles? Holmes, that's what the Pony Express is for.
Title: Got a record contract offer
Post by: ledzeppac on January 19 2006, 04:59:42 PM
ah just make one then we can all talk and gossip and share picture and oh wait isnt that what we do here.....

Sylvan just make one its free....
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 19 2006, 05:41:00 PM
I'm trying, but it keeps telling me that the URL I'm requesting is already in use.....even when I tried myspace.com/whatthefuckdoyouwantfrommeyoustupidfuckingwebsiteisweartogodillkillyou
Title: Re: Got a record contract offer
Post by: Recklessrob on January 19 2006, 11:22:30 PM
I'll send you a link. There are two types of pages you can make
there. One is a personal, and the other is for a band. Both are
free. Bettyer to setup a band page, because it allows you to
upload four songs to it.
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