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Title: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Steve Wood on March 23 2012, 11:58:32 AM
Wrestling with Keith's problem or problems reminds me that I have had three different people express surprise to me in the past week when I suggested they buy a vacuum/boost gauge instead of one that reads only boost.

I was surprised that none of them knew the benefit of using vacuum to troubleshoot, or to identify when an engine was not operating properly.  To me, it is a "C'mon, Man!" moment.

It is one of the things that I frequently check when driving to see if all is well with the engine.

Ed just put up a chart in Keith's thread on diagnosing with a vacuum gauge....while there are many permutations of how the gauge may react depending upon the degree of the problem, it is one of the basic troubleshootin g steps.

We often ignore the basics and start looking for complex problems without recognizing some simple is wrong.  I suspect we did this with Keith's problem as we started trying to find out why the cam sensor is not working correctly instead of wondering if something basic was wrong.
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: daveismissing on March 23 2012, 12:28:46 PM
Nice chart Ed.
Sent me looking, this may be higher res:
http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/earlyburbs/projects/vac/vacuum.pdf (http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/earlyburbs/projects/vac/vacuum.pdf)
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: SuperSix on March 23 2012, 12:31:41 PM
Very nice.

I have always run a VDO VAC/Boost gauge - I like to watch gauges though.
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Top Speed on March 23 2012, 01:56:54 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: ULYCYC on March 23 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Nice chart Ed.
Sent me looking, this may be higher res:
http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/earlyburbs/projects/vac/vacuum.pdf (http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/earlyburbs/projects/vac/vacuum.pdf)

If you double click on the one I posted it opens up High Res..
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: daveismissing on March 23 2012, 03:41:09 PM
So it does, apologies for causing a disturbance in the force.
(the pdf is nice 'n small tho)
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: SuperSix on March 23 2012, 03:41:41 PM
Saved
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Pyro6 on March 23 2012, 03:48:54 PM
At the shop I bought a smoke machine. Talk about invaluable. If you see smoke, you're losing vacuum. In-car and PL especially, the vacuum gauge is the most important of em all.
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Charlief1 on March 23 2012, 09:12:12 PM
One of the things I learned many years ago is the KISS method. Most of the time everyone gets into the fact that a computer is monitering a system so it has to be related somehow. Most of the time it's a mechanical issue which either sets a code or causes a running issue, but people still want to throw parts at it. :013:  I've even been guilty of that once in a while and still have to step back and remember the rule. :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Steve Wood on March 23 2012, 09:17:38 PM
At the shop I bought a smoke machine. Talk about invaluable. If you see smoke, you're losing vacuum. In-car and PL especially, the vacuum gauge is the most important of em all.

I just call one of the local potheads to come over and exhale into the tb
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: daveismissing on March 23 2012, 09:34:19 PM
Something like this?

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=445181&highlight=diy+smoke+machine (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=445181&highlight=diy+smoke+machine)
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Pyro6 on March 24 2012, 07:07:27 AM
How many potheads does it take to smoke a V8??
Title: Re: Vacuum Boost gauges
Post by: Steve Wood on March 24 2012, 10:10:31 AM
One, if he inhales
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