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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: Shimy87 on March 29 2011, 01:40:37 PM

Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Shimy87 on March 29 2011, 01:40:37 PM
I really liked this stuff but its a huge pain in the ass to get for me. Whats a good substitute, 10W40 prefered.

Thanks!!
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: SuperSix on March 29 2011, 03:36:55 PM
What do you like about that brand?
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Shimy87 on March 29 2011, 04:13:02 PM
my motor had a loud tick ( no header cracks) and I went from mobil 1 to Valvoline to this stuff and with this the tick seemed to be reduced quite a bit. Maybe its in my head but I hated the ticking and this helped. Just wondered if there was a more readily avaliable oil that might have some of the same properties??
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: SuperSix on March 29 2011, 04:16:09 PM
The only thing I think could stop a tick like that would be a thicker viscosity - have you ever tried 15w40? Like a Rotella? From what I can see on the Brad Penn - it's basically a racing oil with high ZDDP

The best solution would be to track down and repair the ticking sound, of course. :)
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: $1987 GN$ on March 29 2011, 04:34:19 PM
Find the tick don't mask it.

AJ___
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Shimy87 on March 29 2011, 05:04:34 PM
yeah, I've spent 2 years trying to find this tick, Short of taking the whole motor apart I've given up! Thats why I liked this oil. would the heavy ZDDP content help with the ticking. I'm guessing from my reading that on  the # 3 cylinder the cam lobes are worn and its coming from that but I'm probably way off. Its a slight ticking but I'm pretty picky and it bugs me
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: $1987 GN$ on March 29 2011, 05:50:12 PM
Did you scope the engine?

Is it cold and warm tick ? Is it louder on start up?

Is it front or back left or right top or bottom?

How many miles on it? Is it a rebuild if so when?

Is the tick a scratchy tick or a tapping tick?

Did it just start to do this or was it a gradual thing.

Just looking to help out.

AJ___
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Steve Wood on March 29 2011, 07:50:35 PM
get old and you won't hear ticks

I use Valvoline Racing
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Steve Wood on March 29 2011, 07:51:34 PM
you can try royal purple as well
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: daveismissing on March 29 2011, 08:01:02 PM
I have Brad Penn in my pickup truck, local mechanic was using it as bulk oil!.
I said WTF!! and told him about the oil. :)
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: $1987 GN$ on March 29 2011, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:50 pm"
get old and you won't hear ticks


Never hear them anyway.
(http://www.lawestvector.org/images/Ticks/ticks.jpg)

AJ___
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: daveismissing on March 29 2011, 08:06:00 PM
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Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: SuperSix on March 29 2011, 11:23:05 PM
Wow. wtf.
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Shimy87 on March 30 2011, 10:41:30 AM
Quote from: "$1987 GN$ @ Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:50 pm"
Did you scope the engine? no

Is it cold and warm tick ? Is it louder on start up? warm tick, not loud on start up

Is it front or back left or right top or bottom? hard to tell, middle top???

How many miles on it? Is it a rebuild if so when? 58000 original

Is the tick a scratchy tick or a tapping tick? tapping

Did it just start to do this or was it a gradual thing. done it since I got it 2 years ago

Just looking to help out.  THANKS!!

AJ___
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Steve Wood on March 30 2011, 02:25:48 PM
cam sensor?  loud injector?
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Top Speed on March 30 2011, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:23 pm"
Wow. wtf.


lol!!!
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: SuperSix on March 30 2011, 03:34:40 PM
What's your oil pressure when hot, and you can hear the tapping?
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: $1987 GN$ on March 31 2011, 11:15:54 PM
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Tools-Garage-and-Equipment/Automotive-Stethoscope/_/N-26gd

Has a variety of uses.
Or if you are good you can do like the old timers do and us a wooden stick or broom handle to narrow it down or find it.

Not sure Steve on that injector comment, late night?

Cam sensor, lifter?

AJ___
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Steve Wood on April 01 2011, 09:52:29 AM
Nope...might be his imagination that oil changed the sound....some injectors are very loud
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Steve Wood on April 01 2011, 09:54:51 AM
Most Buicks that I have seen have had some ticking noise from somewhere....I don't pay attention unless it suddenly gets worse or a different sound shows up...no use spending your life wondering if it is a piston pin or windshield wiper bearing
Title: Brad Penn oil
Post by: $1987 GN$ on April 01 2011, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:54 am"
Most Buicks that I have seen have had some ticking noise from somewhere....I don't pay attention unless it suddenly gets worse or a different sound shows up...no use spending your life wondering if it is a piston pin or windshield wiper bearing


Agreed

AJ___
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: ULYCYC on April 01 2011, 11:10:57 AM
Try and run the engine with the Serpentine belt removed. Bad belt or idler pulley can make the same noise.
Title: Re: Brad Penn oil
Post by: Shimy87 on April 01 2011, 11:14:06 AM
Oil pressure is good ( 50 warm and crusing) and its not an injector, I know that sound. I did try the long screwdriver trick held to my ear and checking around, no luck. Pulled the valve covers and held my hand on each rocker to see if I could feel anything or hear a change in noise...no luck. I kinda ended up where what Steve said, it just makes some noise and I gotta quit worring about it. Cant wait for the salt to get rained off the roads here so I can get it back out again!!

Want to get rid of the Flowmaster exhaust this spring and get the Pypes cat back system installed.

Thanks alot guys!!!
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