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General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: Steve Wood on January 09 2011, 12:12:00 PM
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Before we try to fix education, perhaps we should just eliminate all the failures of the system from the population. That way, we will not need very many real teachers to fix the problem. and we will have a lot less people to support that are unable to feed themselves in a competitive environment. Another major benefit would be the elimination of the democrat party which is required for the survival of our country.
From FB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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As bad as the above video is, the Kellie Pickler "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader" clip is the one that shames me the most.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8AqJJIwVY
As much as I am a proponent of states' individual rights to govern themselves, I don't think they are kept in check by enough citizens who are ready to move in order to show their disgust with decisions made by said state goverments. As it pertains to education, I moved from CO to IL during my junior high years and was horrified by the difference in education levels between the two states.
I also have seen many people defect from CA to my home state of CO (presumably due to taxes, at least in part), only to see CO turned into a 'Little California' if you will.
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IL's education system differs drastically from one area to another. Some are extremely outstanding and other are lacking to say the least.
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This "No child left behind" law pushes the kids thru school without them learning anything. The high school kid that works for me is a great kid, loves to do hands-on work, but he can barely write his own name.
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Before we try to fix education, perhaps we should just eliminate all the failures of the system from the population.
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1) Get rid of cell phones and texting
2) Common sense discipline in the classroom.
3) Vo-tech no longer a dumping ground for high school problem kids
4) Year around school
5) Uniforms in the classroom.
6) Performance based evaluation of the teachers.
7( Stop cutting funding for school programs.
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some people are just stupid, and they will not excel, no matter the system used. Stupidity has no solution
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some people are just stupid, and they will not excel, no matter what system is used. Stupidity has no solution
Hopefully if we find one it will be Final.
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Stop quoting my pre-edit slop
Better yet:
Some people will never excel, no matter the system used, and no matter how many times they edit
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In 20 years, the educational system will be teaching a world language consisting of picture words, but, with far less sophistication than hieroglyphs.
This will bring world unity thru a common language.
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I want to live next door to Steve. Wait, sorry:
Man House, Man House, Smile
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Some people deserve to be left behind.
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Some people deserve to be left behind.
Yeah, like that POS middle east Islamorama...w hat harm could ignorant fucks do?
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Riddle me this one batman, every time shit goes down in a foreign country(most recently Haiti)... at every commercial break, you see a charity asking for our money to help the dire situation in a foreign nation... maybe people in the US and Canada should be donating their money to a cause that benefits themselves, ie. a better funded and built education system...
I'm so sick of the billions of dollars citizens and governments give away in the name of foreign aid, it's about time we start helping ourselves.
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Riddle me this one batman, every time shit goes down in a foreign country(most recently Haiti)... at every commercial break, you see a charity asking for our money to help the dire situation in a foreign nation... maybe people in the US and Canada should be donating their money to a cause that benefits themselves, ie. a better funded and built education system...
I'm so sick of the billions of dollars citizens and governments give away in the name of foreign aid, it's about time we start helping ourselves.
When these faggot Hollywood types were on TV telling me that I have to give money to Haiti I found myself asking the TV aloud, "Sure, should I just make out a check for the same amount they sent to us after Katrina? ...911?"
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I want to live next door to Steve. Wait, sorry:
Man House, Man House, Smile
I am well prepared....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_myiZVMvY
this is why shes dumb
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I want to live next door to Steve. Wait, sorry:
Man House, Man House, Smile
I am well prepared....
You got Bugles and Big Red?
HE GOT BUGLES AND BIG RED, EVERYBODY!
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I want to live next door to Steve. Wait, sorry:
Man House, Man House, Smile
I am well prepared....
You got Bugles and Big Red?
HE GOT BUGLES AND BIG RED, EVERYBODY!
You make witch hands with the Bugles, don't you....
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You make witch hands with the Bugles, don't you....
Which hands?
...kid's stuff. But candy corn fangs I am not above!
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Is there a codebook for degenerates so I can figure out what you and Mark are talking about?
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Is there a codebook for degenerates so I can figure out what you and Mark are talking about?
While we're on the subject of finishing books...
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although I agree to states rights in general...ther e should be a Nationalized Educational standard...I was lucky to graduate from the IL School system...but my sister had to graduate under the NJ system and and to take extra courses. What you have in KY to graduate may not be the same in CA...same with driver license but that is another issue... case in point...Ian is in 5th grade...has a new teacher...not tenured...repl acing a tenured teacher...how could give 2 shits as to how he is doing.... missing assignments... Ian does not bring it home so we have no idea it is missing...this not is only in his case but the whole class...why... because the tenured teacher knows Ian will not be left behind...even though we threaten that...but the non-tenured teacher who is full of spice and vinegar want them to not only pass but excel...and in the 2 weeks she took over we have had phone calls and e-mails to help us and Ian out....pay for performance would be a huge step...then maybe 80% of my real estate taxes wont go to Education..
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sounds good except for the fact that the federal government is incapable of running anything. Given the agenda of the NEA, the format would get even worse. The educational system today appears to be aimed at the mediocre rather than the outstanding, and it spends way too much time imposing social ideals as oppposed to scholastic.
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sounds good except for the fact that the federal government is incapable of running anything.
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Public education used to be about education. Now it's social engineering and tax-paid babysitting.
And that right there folks is what is wrong with our educational system.
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My girlfriend here in ontario is a highschool art teacher. She finds because of the basically no fail policy getting kids to do anything or bother to hand anything in is a huge hassle. Their is almost no penalty anymore for handing things in late. If she fails someone she gets in trouble. I'm young and I think our future is fucked. I have a few other friends that are "teachers" and it scares me they are "training" kids. My friends and I convinced one of them once that when we were at my cottage we were in a different time zone. It was an hour north of my house in the same province. Fucking frightening.
I can't wait for the day I call UPS to ship something and the shipping guy on the phone replies, "we'll send someone maybe this week to pick it up" Sure, who cares? Deadlines don't matter.
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school has become a joke in many places...many teachers are simply not qualified...I guess baby sitters about summed it up
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school has become a joke in many places...Excep t China and India.
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Soon High School classes will be Facebook delivered and print out your own diploma.
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Pretty much what we do is to stay on top of the teachers and our kids to see what they are doing in class. Last year, our oldest daughter who was in 4th grade had a "First year" (new) teacher and when she would bring home corrected work from the teacher, Bryan and I would sit there to double check the teacher, which sometimes she would mark things wrong when they were correct. Bryan would write a note on the paper and send it back to the teacher explaining it was correct and she should "double check". That teacher is no longer a teacher, she is now a librarian.
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school has become a joke in many places...Excep t China and India.
You got that right...I was referring to the US of A
I went into a store with a friend one day so he could buy cigars...start ed to check out and the college girl messed up the cash register and could not check us out. I said, "just add the sales tax to the price" and that will be what we owe you." She handed me a calculator to do it for her. Told her that I did not need a calculator to do that.....and told her the price. She looked at me like I was from Mars.....
College girl...
I dread to stand in check out lines at Walmart for fear that the register will break before I get there.....not to mention the dreaded "Price Check!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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school has become a joke in many places...Excep t China and India.
You got that right...I was referring to the US of A
I went into a store with a friend one day so he could buy cigars...start ed to check out and the college girl messed up the cash register and could not check us out.
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....I was not a popular person after that.
So that was the seminal event.
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My mother gave my first grade teacher a permission letter to hit me if I got out of line.
The teacher smacked me out of my chair when a spitball stuck to her head. The good old days :rolleyes:
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Most of my classes were held in the Principal's office. To this day, he and I are still good friends. The friendships and bonds you make in life.... :D
I got suspended on many occasions throughout junior high and high school, mostly for seeing how far I could push. One teacher used to kick me out of class at least once a week, but he would always let me come back because he knew I'd learn something everyday. This teacher and I are also still in contact today, and he's one of the best teachers I ever had.
The most memorable suspension came when I was a senior in High School. Another classmate and I made a bet on who could yell "penis" the loudest down the hallway... He was at one end, and I at the other. Needless to say I won, and the other students had a great laugh, but the three manliest women teachers alive (who's classrooms were all near my locker) didn't find it funny. To this day I don't believe they like the word penis, or the penis in general. It was about 5 minutes into study hall when my good friend Mr. Principal comes looking at me. He asked me about the situation, I told him the truth. As he's trying not to laugh, he tells me I've been suspended. I got home from school, told my mom what happened. She wasn't impressed, but she also didn't believe me. She called the school to confirm, and the Principal told her what had happened. Without missing a beat, my mom says "You suspended him for saying 'Penis', I could see a few detentions but a suspension is ridicoulus. Its not like he was yelling 'cock' or 'dick' or 'balls'!" It was 2nd semester, I had all my credits to graduate, so it wasn't really a big deal... But they still talked about it at my 10 year reunion last year :rolleyes;
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Most of my classes were held in the Principal's office. To this day, he and I are still good friends. The friendships and bonds you make in life....
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Well, coming from one of the worst school districts in Chicagoland, (suburbs), all I can say is, I was so glad to graduate and I think my parents were also because the I was the last child of 3 to get the hell out of there.
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I teach at a private school in a north Chicago suburb. Whenever I travel on monthly field trips with my classes, I'm am constantly complimented on how courteous and well-behaved the students are. Our school is supported by private donations and tuition. Our school has consistently placed in the top 8% of schools in the nation according to our national test scores (5% last year). My fellow teachers are all dedicated, hard-working men and women who put in long hours and spend many one-on-one hours with students who need help.
We use the latest technology like laptops for each student and Smartboards, and we use old fashion techniques like requiring students set aside quiet time to read at least one hour per day.
While I would like to say that our outstanding results are because of us teachers, it would be a lie. The truth is our students excel primarily because our parents are dedicated to our school and seeing that their children do well. The parents of our children have to pay several thousand dollars per student per year in tuition. The fact that they are willing to spend this money, when there are plenty of free public schools in our district, proves that they care about the quality of their kid's education. These parents are not wealthy by any means, but they make the personal sacrifice for their children. Better parenting not more money is the solution to improving our schools.
Here's a picture of one of my 8th grade classes.
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Good work Chris!!!!
If throwing money at it solved the problem, Chicago Public Schools would be some the best schools in the nation.
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My hats off to the teachers of the world. You couldn't pay me enough to do what you do.
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My fiancee's son's teachers are shocked that we are involved and ask questions. Scary times.
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Unfortunately, Chris, schools and teachers, like yours and you are the exception rather than the rule.
I guess parents accept it and therefore, it is...
It seems such a simple problem, but, the education appears to be anything but.
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I teach at a private school in a north Chicago suburb.
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..Except China and India.
Thta's because in China the children are raised that it is their duty to do good in school. Then they can get a good job and care for their parents when they get old.
It's all about taking care of the family and everyone their is involved in the process.
Teachers care about their work and feel it's their duty to provide a good education to the kids.
There it's about Family and Duty
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That is excellent Chris. It is nice to see some teachers still care. I know down here there are a few, and then there are some who don't care. Since you are in the Chicago area, then you would be aware of Dist. U-46. I think it is or was when I was going to school, one of the largest districts outside of Chicago. That is where I went to school.
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That is excellent Chris. It is nice to see some teachers still care. I know down here there are a few, and then there are some who don't care. Since you are in the Chicago area, then you would be aware of Dist. U-46. I think it is or was when I was going to school, one of the largest districts outside of Chicago.
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That is excellent Chris. It is nice to see some teachers still care. I know down here there are a few, and then there are some who don't care. Since you are in the Chicago area, then you would be aware of Dist. U-46. I think it is or was when I was going to school, one of the largest districts outside of Chicago.
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Very few feel like "whistling while they work" so you are truly blessed
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Very few feel like "whistling while they work" so you are truly blessed
Boy is that ever true. I left teaching for a while and owned a couple of businesses, chasing after the dollar. They weren't enterprises I cared about, just lucrative businesses. I made twice as much money, but I was miserable. At my age, the kids think of me as a surrogate grandfather. I get lots of love, attention, and respect. I'm happy.
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Very few feel like "whistling while they work" so you are truly blessed
I don't know that I have ever had that. It sucks.
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Very few feel like "whistling while they work" so you are truly blessed
Boy is that ever true.
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The Good Humor truck is my summer job, but I manage to bring a lot of ice cream to school throughout the year. :D
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Obamas' speech at Arizona University left no doubt in my mind that the US education system is in the dumpster. Cheering as the victims names were read out?
How grossly uncouth was that? I'd have expected better at a Mid-High School assembly. IMO it shows a sense of entitlement among those college age pukes. It's all about them right?!?
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Obamas' speech at Arizona University left no doubt in my mind that the US education system is in the dumpster. Cheering as the victims names were read out?
How grossly uncouth was that? I'd have expected better at a Mid-High School assembly. IMO it shows a sense of entitlement among those college age pukes. It's all about them right?!?
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You think we would have learned something from the Romans.