IHADAV8.com - Turbo Buick Tech, and Nonsense
Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: tb3 on December 21 2010, 06:20:25 PM
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i thought this might be interesting to do. who knows, could be lame.
the other day i went out in the garage with a beer and sat down looking at my gn and thought, "geez, i don't think theres a single bolt i haven't turned on this entire car. and i can probably be handed any bolt from these cars and tell you where it goes. but theres certainly still alot i don't know about these cars i love. so how about some of the more unusual facts or figures alot of the rest of us may not know.
i'll start.
did you know the stock ecm is the same ecm as some of the fwd gm cars. if i recall correctly... was it the 86 3800's?
did you also know that our stock ecm will recognize a input from a power steering sensor on the rack and pinion fwd's? i "think" its to bump the idle when the pump takes power from the engine?
correct me if i'm wrong.
another one i find amazing and aggrivating at the same time, is that our cars use a mixture of both metric and english bolts and nuts through-out its assembly. therefore requiring both ranges of sockets and wrenches when working on it
anybody got anything?
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Have not seen anyone explain the HS tag on the frame (driver's wheelwell).
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i'd also like to know on what the 200r4 started out
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
So its not just about the polished tin bling on the nose and the climate control availability?
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The original tires, Eagle GT's could make the posi. rear end clutches go clink clink clink around tight parking lot corners regardless of how much Kenne Bell green limited slip differential magic fluid and GM bottles of additive you tossed in it.
Upon replacing the worn out crap stock tires at 18K miles, (rears go first for some reason), with Dunlop D40 M2's in 235/60/15 size the noises magically went away.
That's my story from the old days. :psix;
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
So its not just about the polished tin bling on the nose and the climate control availability?
...and the door pull strap.
As far as the metric goes...pretty much with any bolt on the Buick I'll first try it with a 15mm before I go to the toolbox.
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13,15, mm wrench and a philips head screwdriver you can pretty much take apart a gbody..
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13,15, mm wrench and a philips head screwdriver you can pretty much take apart a gbody..
Word. Too bad we can't leave all the monkey-meter shit to those dopes up north.
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hrmmm
AJ___
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Recently noted that the A-pillars on the outside of the car are different on a T-top car rather than a hard top. You can run your hand down a hard top A pillar and it is smooth. T-tops have a bulge in them. I think its to help the water run down but???
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86 and 87 can be identified by the 3rd brake light - Government mandated them from 86 - on.
Not much, but something. :)
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The factory sometimes put the rear drain tubes for the sunroof down the wheelwell so they empty into the trunk. :finga:
And of course when you took the car back to the dealer they were just as clueless to the problem. :psix;
Of course after you start dumping the water into the body you better make sure the drain hole is big enough and clear so ALL the water gets out.
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Have not seen anyone explain the HS tag on the frame (driver's wheelwell).
At one time, it was believed that it signified Smith Harvestore which was a diviision of A.O. Smith that made frames for GM. I don't think this is correct as Harvestore is a farm division of Smith and the frame business was a major part of the company so I don't think it would have been in the farm products group which came along much later than the frame business.
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
So its not just about the polished tin bling on the nose and the climate control availability?
...and the door pull strap.
As far as the metric goes...pretty much with any bolt on the Buick I'll first try it with a 15mm before I go to the toolbox.
Not my 86 i got a black grill :D that makes it .5 sec. faster
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
So its not just about the polished tin bling on the nose and the climate control availability?
...and the door pull strap.
As far as the metric goes...pretty much with any bolt on the Buick I'll first try it with a 15mm before I go to the toolbox.
Not my 86 i got a black grill :D
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They weren't lighter, they were just faster and better looking because of the grill!!! :D
The interior light on the passenger kick panel was different on the 86's vs the 87's.
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Well here is one for you wrap your head around.
I have seen where they put the power trunk release in and never have the control button to open it.
AJ___
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I know how to tell an 86 from an 87 by the vacuum lines on the passenger side
So its not just about the polished tin bling on the nose and the climate control availability?
...and the door pull strap.
As far as the metric goes...pretty much with any bolt on the Buick I'll first try it with a 15mm before I go to the toolbox.
Not my 86 i got a black grill :D
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86's had more potential RPO codes than an '87 too.
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Fuse block is one fuse different if I recall correctly
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86's had more potential RPO codes than an '87 too.
Yea like peg leg that the 87 didn't have
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Is there somewhere that has a definitive description of the differences and uniqueness of the WH1, WE4, Turbo T, and T-Type?
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You could get the 87's without Posi as well, a friend of mine bought his 1987 GN new back in 1987 and it was a non-posi car.
As an FYI, both of my 86 GN's came without Posi when new. They now both spin both rear tires, the one has a spool and the other has a Posi added.
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I'm guessing they stuffed Posi in all those late build option laden-ed 87's ? Perhaps that's why it seems like 87s had it?
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wasnt there one color that has never been seen? i know the gold is rare and i think grumpy had one. or was it that brown? maybe sage green was the real rare one? i could haev swore there was one color that no one has ever seen.
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I love the Rosewood. I had a Rosewood NA 87 T.
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nope not rosewood... wanna say maybe that cream color/
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nope not rosewood... wanna say maybe that cream color/
I have seen the Buttercream color on an 87 T one of the MAGNA members has one
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I had my 84 repainted in a 87 color Royal Saphire Blue It came out really nice. I still want a grey t-type I think they are sharp. Wayne's Cream T-type is a beauty!!
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A cure for a weak/slipping posi (not broken) is to do a dozen figure 8's in reverse.
It scuff's up the plates and will fix for months or years.
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A cure for a weak/slipping posi (not broken) is to do a dozen figure 8's in reverse.
It scuff's up the plates and will fix for months or years.
you serious? lol i dont want to look insane in reverse.. how long do you got to do it for?
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A cure for a weak/slipping posi (not broken) is to do a dozen figure 8's in reverse.
It scuff's up the plates and will fix for months or years.
you serious? lol i dont want to look insane in reverse.. how long do you got to do it for?
Rob you look the same no matter of what direction you travel :rolleyes:
Yes I'm serious. It scuff's up the plates and removes all the shit buildup.
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A cure for a weak/slipping posi (not broken) is to do a dozen figure 8's in reverse.
It scuff's up the plates and will fix for months or years.
you serious? lol i dont want to look insane in reverse.. how long do you got to do it for?
Rob you look the same no matter of what direction you travel :rolleyes:
Yes I'm serious. It scuff's up the plates and removes all the shit buildup.
:D
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They weren't lighter, they were just faster and better looking because of the grill!!!
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Buying one will quickly drain your liquid assets.
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Buying one will quickly drain your liquid assets.
the truest thing you ever said.
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They weren't lighter, they were just faster and better looking because of the grill!!!
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every 84-86 gn i've ever seen has had the alum supports. including my own 84. anything is possible though, specially with these cars being so old
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lol! i sound like dennis kirban, but....
something else i've noticed is that every car that has the factory theft alarm, also has the dash wiring harness with the connectors all wired in for twilight centianal.
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heres another one,
alot of people liken the front of the 84-86 gn's to darth vaders mask. the head of the buick division was a huge star wars fan at the time, and definetly thought the new 84 gn's front end should resemble vaders mask. when george lucas heard of this, he had one of the new gn's shipped to one of the return of the jedi sets during filming and if you watch the movie at about 2.46:59, pause it when you see the 2 storm troopers marching past a tie fighter with the emperors guard. you have to go real slow but you'll see a gn off in the back next to a shield power generator. you may have to go in forward and reverse several times and get real close to your tv, but you'll eventually see it
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On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament building is an American flag. :rofl;
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There is an 86 GNX with touch climant control and i have seen pics.
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lol!
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On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament building is an American flag.
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That and a buck'll get ya a cup of coffee.
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On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament building is an American flag.
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Perhaps you could throw a $5 Canadian bill to whomever feels that you're stealing their bandwidth?
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Yeah, bitch!
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My car is a late build 87 w/ t-tops and digital dash. I've been told on two occasions that this is somewhat rare by two different people, but haven't found anything to back up that statement.
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Ever seen a Buick owner who doesn't think his combination of options is rare?
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heres another one,
alot of people liken the front of the 84-86 gn's to darth vaders mask.
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Ever seen a Buick owner who doesn't think his combination of options is rare?
:doh; X2
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heres another one,
alot of people liken the front of the 84-86 gn's to darth vaders mask.
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Ever seen a Buick owner who doesn't think his combination of options is rare?
Well in Spoolin's defense, as I'm sure you guys already know, late build '87s were "supposedly" cranked out as fast as possible, hard tops, & with what parts were available.
So, in theory, for a late '87 build to have T-tops and a digital dash that was still laying around the parts bin, is unique.
BTW, I'm a stereotypical Buick owner with a rare combo. I have a 1 of 1,595 '87 Canadian export. It has a factory 140 speedo, in KM that is. :w00t:
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I've owned two '87 GNs...both optioned identicaly (well). I guess that's probably not very strange.