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General Buick Tech / Re: WB o2 sensor
« on: August 17 2012, 09:27:13 PM »
Lc-1 is better than nothing, but the NGK is the way to go! More robust, with a trade off of  slower response time compared to the bosch. Its just the design the surface area to clog with lead is much bigger on the ngk, so it takes longer to fail.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: June 09 2012, 07:58:05 PM »
I need to bypass the 9s; I know it won;t be easy, but even an 8.99 will be good enough to get banned for a long time.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: June 09 2012, 11:49:57 AM »
I am waiting on some parts 8s' does not come cheap and takes time  to get it sorted out.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: June 07 2012, 05:44:55 PM »
ttt

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 28 2012, 09:32:32 PM »
The bottom line is you can tune it the way you want any af you want and timing........ .under any boost condition or cruising...

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 26 2012, 10:11:31 AM »
I ran the pro as well, and it would randomly take the timing to 34 degrees under boost,,,,,,,,,,,but only once in a while. I could not risk the motor so I had to abort everything stock ecu related, I think everything was EMI related.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 26 2012, 08:51:09 AM »
This is a typical turbo buick owner of today. He goes to the track and runs 14’s and is pissed. Hits the bulletin boards and is told about tuning but ignores the info. He goes out and buys 4” downpipe, 1200hp turbo, triple valve springs,  double pumper, 400 amp alternator, 55lb injectors and Reds chip and ready for the 10’s. But to his surprise  he only made it to the 13’s. He is told on the board that his setup can handle 30lbs of boost with alky so that’s his next buy. After not listening on how to tune for alky he blows up the motor and blames all the part manufacturers. Now he looks deeper in this tune thing and sees XFI is better then the rhythm method of birth control. He spends a few thousand on it and gets a startup program and goes to the track. Still pissed he is in the 13’s  calls go out to supertuners. Being cheap as most buick guys he won’t pay. He gets a few friends who read  some xfi tuning secrets and hit the track. Now he runs 13.0 but flames are shooting out the side of the head and the track is pissed for the oil down. Now the peanut gallery chimes in and says buick sucks and now he drop in a bulletproof LSX :icon_eyes: :icon_lol:




That is so funny, but true, with the wrong numbers entered it could be all over quick

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 26 2012, 08:41:43 AM »
The stock ecm is a work of art for its time, but when you get into a really sensitive tune it does not have the flexibility of the  after market units.   Here is some more info on the XFI.   The XFI does not fix mistakes programmed in by the user, that is why things go wrong, it also needs room for improvement, you can check out my improvement list.


http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/fast-xfi-2-0-faqs-5761.html


Improvement list or wish list

http://www.cpgnation.com/forum/fast-xfi-updated-suggested-improvement-list-7005.html




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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 26 2012, 08:32:38 AM »
Norbs - Give us the pros and cons, when and why to switch, total cost, driveability.


The stock ecu does not provide immunity to interference from MSD boxes.



Thanks for getting engaged here Norbs, its all interesting and I'll have to study it all.


Did this (the above) turn out to be the ECM or all that Moates stuff?






Dave, the Moates stuff would corrupt the bin file randomly after powering the ecu down. You could re-flash it and it would be fine for a day, a week,,,,,, then all of a sudden a ecu code pops up bad eeprom.  So i had to scrap that plan.  Using the chip from Eric it  ran great, however at high rpm/boost the mass air signal and during accel would go erratic, and start throwing timing all over the place, knock etc. Then I decided to go SD mode to eliminate the MAF out of the equation, it worked much better, however it still  would start doing weird things and I could not get consistant results to hold the timing or the closed loop fuel control steady at WOT.  Put the fast in and timing was rock solid, and great fuel control....... .......

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 25 2012, 06:52:19 PM »
Actually you could use the XFI as a safety with alky, and a pressure switch, so that the AF ratio will only be modified when the alky is present,,,,,,,,,,,,top that one top speed :chin:

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 25 2012, 04:13:46 PM »
ANd i forgot to mention traction control , so you don;t have to worry about wiping the car out at top end.....becasu e the spinning is controlled, not violent.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 25 2012, 04:08:54 PM »
Thanks
Can it self learn to the point of making a street friendly good gas mileage daily driver?




I dont see why not,  you can put any AF ratio  in and timing for cruising speed.  Self learn does not come in effect for cranking fuel, accel enrichment, or afterstart, you are on your own for those.

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General Buick Tech / Re: XFI vs ECM
« on: May 24 2012, 10:41:36 PM »
Norbs - Give us the pros and cons, when and why to switch, total cost, driveability.


The stock ecu does not provide immunity to interference from MSD boxes.
The timing on the stock ecu is is fixed by gear changes and once you go WOT it is not regulated by boost.  I e you can't  put in 25 degrees at 5 psi boost, 23 at 1o psi boost, etc.  Even with the trans pro you can do it against rpm but not boost.
The processor speed is 8mhz compared to 24 mhz. The O2 sensor gain on the WB chips is fixed, xfi its variable, and the correction limits are fixed on the wb chip , xfi its not.
XFI has self learning with variable gain,  individual timing and fuel control.
boost, control, timed boost control, 2 step,  3 step, nitrous control, 4 inputs, 4 aux outputs, 8 analog inputs, datalogging at 20 fps for 24 items. 5 bar map input.
Wideband o2 inhibit delay to reduce spikes  on wb correction on gear changes.
User defined coldstart, after start enrichment, cranking fuel, any injector size , high impedance and low impedance.


The cost is about $2000 by the time your done is the con, and the time you need to tune all this in..

Many more features Im just starting out...

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Canada / Re: Hello, my name is Steve
« on: May 19 2012, 12:49:25 PM »
Hi , I dont like it can't read the plate........ :doh:

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IHADAV8 Playground / Re: Installed New Carpet
« on: April 08 2012, 09:51:19 AM »
Tip, check the antifreeze before winter..... :icon_redface: ....carpet looks great

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