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Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on December 27 2005, 06:57:40 PM
I am interested in info on maf's going out when hooked up to a solid maf pipe?
Every now and then I pick up info on the maf's going out when hooked up to a solid maf pipe in lieu of the corregated pos factory stuff. Any comments or info will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Anybody running a cold air system such as the BucikGN (Mark Hueffman)
Post by: DCEPTCN on December 27 2005, 07:02:55 PM
My maf has been great to me and it's got chrome pipe in either direction.  :yawinkle:
Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: 87natty on December 27 2005, 10:30:32 PM
No issues. I replaced mine because the damn stock one got a hole rubbed in it. Brushed aluminized steel. Leave the screens on, keep debris from hitting the filaments and prematurely wearing it out. I'm using a NAPA MAF too, no problems, guess I got lucky.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: gordyzx9r on December 27 2005, 10:51:58 PM
Solid MAF pipe...NOS MAF with one screen removed...no issues.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Recklessrob on December 27 2005, 11:59:47 PM
The thing to stay away from is the bracket that Poston's and
Kirban's sell that attaches the MAF to the engine. It transmits
to much vibration from the engine to the MAF.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Top Speed on December 28 2005, 09:38:20 AM
Rob you could have a point there with the vibrations.

I have had solid MAF pipe with the stock MAF and no problems.  Last year I upgraded to the LS1 MAF and a translator along with the Big Mouth Cold Air Intake - no problems with that either.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on December 28 2005, 12:26:39 PM
TopSpeed: Do you have any pics of your current system showing the translator & the Mark hueffman cold air system. Could you post some or e-mail me some.
TIA
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Top Speed on December 28 2005, 01:14:24 PM
Gary,

Look in my picture gallery on this site.  The first picture that comes up is one showing where I mounted the Translator.  I got the regular translator - I did not need the Translator Plus since I make my timing adjustments in the chip.

The third pic in the gallery is one showing the engine bay and the Big Mouth setup.

Here is the link to the gallery:

http://ihadav8.com/phpBB2/album_personal.php?user_id=66
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on December 28 2005, 02:45:35 PM
Great looking set-up. I especially like how you mounted the valve cover oil breathers direct to the valve cover for a low, uncluttered look. The aftermarket ones that I see available mount on damn pedestals way too high. Looks like the space needle. Who makes those, and how do they mount so low without a base?
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Top Speed on December 28 2005, 04:01:18 PM
Thanks Gary.  The breathers are made by K&N.  The valve covers are aftermarket so that may be the difference that you are noticing.  The breathers just fit into a rubber grommet in the valve cover and push down almost touching the cover.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Recklessrob on December 29 2005, 12:30:07 AM
That MAF pro from Full throttle sounds interesting. It eliminates
the MAF altogether.
Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: 87natty on December 29 2005, 02:46:53 AM
Elaborate please.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: granitestategn on January 02 2006, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:30 am"
That MAF pro from Full throttle sounds interesting. It eliminates
the MAF altogether.


Rob,

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Funny you should mention that, I just got my MaftPro a couple days ago. I also bought the LC-1 WBO2 sensor. I plan on going mafless (speed density) this year and running closed loop AFR control. The MaftPro also has electronic closed loop boost control. This thing is gonna ROCK! My goal is to hit 11's this year. I'm along way from that now but I should get it with the shelfload of crap in my basement installed.

Gary,

Didn't mean to hijack so I'll respond to your question also. I've have a solid MAF pipe on my car with my original OEM MAF for a couple of years and haven't had any issues with it whatsoever. Mine is not attached directly to the engine by any kind of bracket.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Be4u on January 02 2006, 09:48:04 PM
Quote from: "granitestategn @ Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:13 pm"
The MaftPro


I hope to go with the maftpro this year. I like it.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on January 02 2006, 10:16:51 PM
That's a little above my head yet, Maybe heads & then the mafless for me. I don't even have a intake plan yet.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Top Speed on January 03 2006, 07:28:29 AM
Gary, the stock intake with a power plate is all you will need.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on January 03 2006, 09:05:39 AM
Quote from: "Top Speed @ Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:28 am"
Gary, the stock intake with a power plate is all you will need.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Be4u on January 03 2006, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: "Gary Wells @ Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:05 am"
I have a Razor alky kit coming but I don't think that I will install it for a while.
Wow, that brings back memories. I let my kit set for 3 months befor I put it in. Same with my WBo2...six months and counting. A couple of weeks ago I FINALLY put on my hood mounted FP gauge.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on January 03 2006, 10:36:39 AM
I am the same way, only worse. The RJC Power plate & Hybird boost controller that I have had sitting for about 4 or 5 months just got installed a couple of weeks ago. Still sitting from that order & not installed yet: Biggie oil filter adapter, complete set of black anodized RJC factory stock pulley, less the tensioner which is on back order. Still sitting from Kirban's order received at X-mas & not installed yet, front & rear springs, lower # 3 & 4 & upper GNX bushing set, & complete kirban's complete brace system, & the Thunderfab installation is now planned for weekend after this one coming up, as GBodyparts forgot to ship the bracket with the intercooler, which is not here yet, but expected this week along with the Alky kit coming from Full Throttel Speed & Style. I'll be busy for a while.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on January 03 2006, 10:58:35 AM
BTW: that list above does not include all of the parts that I have hidden away for spares: 1 Complete brand new in the box Ac-Delco Powermaster unit, Kirban's last one that he had, 2 extra powermaster brake accumulator bowls, brand new in the box (nib), 2 powermaster brake switches (nib), 2 (nib) AC-Delco cam sensors, a complete set of nib hub caps, little fckers are $ 65 per each. and I don't remember what else.
Good fckng news: I just got off of the phone with Tim Lee of DonLee Auto in Rancho Cucamonga and we are getting my car in for the aforementioned suspension work This thursday. Hopefully, we'll be able to get the missing & GNX body bushings, rear seat brace, & front & rear springs, all in a day. hate to see my bill on this as this is per hour work. If you want to check out their work, they are at >www.donleeauto .com<
This fcker's gonna come together yet, as long as I don't run out of money first, which is quite possible.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Recklessrob on January 03 2006, 08:43:43 PM
Gary - sssshhhhhh ! You don't want Gordy to catch wind that you have all those parts, or else he'll be over to take them while you're sleeping.  :rofl;
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Gary Wells on January 03 2006, 09:24:16 PM
The "Great Buick parts Whore of the Far east" could probably match me 100 to 1 on spare parts, we'll all be buuying parts from Gordy one of these days.
Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: 87natty on January 04 2006, 01:49:34 AM
Phil's PM is dying, so he's getting the vac conversion. I think I'll be up there next week pushing him around.
Title: Re: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Recklessrob on January 04 2006, 02:09:59 AM
Whats his Power Monster doing ?
Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: 87natty on January 04 2006, 03:10:08 AM
Don't know, it's buzzing I guess. It was so loud I heard it over the phone. Sometimes mine buzzes too, any thoughts?
Title: Anybody running a solid maf pipe with the factory maflike the BuickGN cold air system?
Post by: Recklessrob on January 04 2006, 12:38:31 PM
Quote from: "87natty @ Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:10 am"
Don't know, it's buzzing I guess. It was so loud I heard it over the phone. Sometimes mine buzzes too, any thoughts?
I'm thinking switch and/or pump assy. Does it stop buzzing if you unplug the evil grey switch ? I have the manual for those here with my parts stash.
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