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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 28 2015, 10:27:55 AM »

Getting ready to go drilling for oil and I'm not gonna stop til my helper says the guage is moving its moving.
Thanks

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 27 2015, 03:08:37 PM »

It sure felt like it was primed.
The drill loaded up was clicking because i had the torque set on it to make sure i didn't break the tooth on cam gear.
Plus I used a screwdriver to check and it definitely has tension on the shaft now.
but I will go back and keep turning it until I get the guage to move if you think that's what a should do

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 26 2015, 11:32:49 PM »

Update

I pulled the plugs and they were filed out terribly and were full of gas.   
Replaced coil pack and module.
Removed crank sensor to install new sensor and noticed that there is damage present on old sensor.  Apparently it was damaged when I put it back on originally.  I kept trying to adjust it but I didn't remove it to inspect it.
Primed oil pump.   It took a lot more time than I thought it would take.  I had to run the cordless drill approx. 5-8 minutes before it would prime. But when It did prime I could really tell the difference in the sound of drill. Then I used a regular screw driver and turned by hand just to check and it doesn't just free wheel it has pressure on it.

I have a two questions

1.   I have a after market oil pressure gauge and I had someone watch the gauge and it never showed oil pressure or moved while spinning the drill even when primed.
      I didn't have the key on or anything because I have my gas lines off to get to the bolt that holds the cam sensor down.
      The copper line is connected to the oil pump and to the gauge.   Shouldn't this gauge show oil pressure or at least move when primed even though the key is off because   the only wire that is connected to it is for the back light. 

2.   Although I'm running aftermarket gauge can I still connect the factory oil pressure switch so the dash light will come on in case of a problem with the oil pressure.   It still has a place to connect the original but I don't think it wasn't connected previously.

Tomorrow I plan to make sure I get cylinder #1 on the compression stroke then go  to 25atdc, install the cam sensor, set it with my caspers cam sensor tool following the instructions.

Properly install the crank sensor and use plastic from coke bottle to adjust it.

spin engine over a few times with the sparks plugs out to dry out cylinders.  Re-install plugs & wires,  Reconnect my orange ecm wire and I feel very confident the car will start.

 
Just for information.  Did ya'll know that these cars will run and run well with the coil wires installed backwards.  I'm glad you asked how I no this.  what I mean by this is when I went to remove my ignition the 1-5-3 was pointing towards the front of the car and the 2-6-4 was towards the firewall.  And apparently it has been like this far approx. 3 years with absolutely no issues.

My theory is It  ran like this because of the way the coil was wired to the module.  It was wired backwards also. Lol

I started not to tell ya'll about this because I know ya'll are saying this guy is kinda crazy but oh well I learn something every time I tear something up.   I am just grateful for you guys being here to help people like myself.   Thank ya'll so muck.

I'm acting like the car is already running.  lol

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 25 2015, 09:23:30 PM »

ULYCYC   you are 100% correct I didn't think about that but I have already exchanged the parts yesterday.  I just have to hope I got good parts.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 24 2015, 09:25:17 PM »

Update,
I will prime the pump b4 I move forward.
My ignition and coil modules and crank sensors all have lifetime warranties to I exchanged them out today just to eliminate some variables. 


I am also going to see whats going on with dash lights.


I also got a new set of plugs because mine are soaking wet with gas and appear to be filed out.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 24 2015, 09:03:50 PM »

i could not find the oil lines that you mentioned.


Mine has a Tee and one line goes to the oil pressure guage inside car. One goes to the turbo and one goes to the engine block.  I couldn't find any lines going to the radiator from this area.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 23 2015, 11:04:37 PM »

I tried another ecm and chip


I'm going to check the bulb in the dash tomorrow to make sure the SES bulb isn't blown because when following the no start trouble shooter I am going the route when the light doesn't come on.  If the bulb is blown I am taking the wrong route on the trouble shooter.




Question,   Can I assume the crank sensor is adjusted properly since the Noid Light came on while trying to crank. 
I am still not getting spark but the injectors are pulsing.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 23 2015, 10:07:06 PM »

Yes, the car does have an aftermarket oil pressure guage and it does not show any pressure on the guage when attempting to crank.
I followed the no start trouble shooting guide on your site and followed the instruction for no check engine light. The ecm fuse is good and I have voltage on ckt 339 & 440.
I thouroughly checked the wires in the harness and swapped out ecm and also swapped another tt chip version 5.6.




What can I be over looking?


Are you speaking of the line that goes into the turbo from the T on the oil pump.




I wonder why the check engine light is not coming on.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 23 2015, 07:59:57 PM »

I checked and oil light does not come on.
one thing also the check enginge light doesn't come on when the key is first turned on.


I used the noid light and it does flash when attempting to crank.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 23 2015, 03:21:15 PM »

Sorry for mis quoting you Mr. Brown.
I have it in the slot closest to the reluctor wheel and farthest from the plug.
I'll check to see if the oil light goes off when I get off.
I also bought a noid light today,  so I'll check the injectors also

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 22 2015, 11:31:47 PM »

Maybe the sensor got damaged so kind of way when I removed or re-installed it.


I'm going to check vortex buick tomorrow to see if their is a way to check the sensor itself.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 22 2015, 11:29:39 PM »

Yes, I checked the ecm wire...




but it is acting just like if it were not connected.




tomorrow I am going to check all connections and the crank sensor adjustment again if I get a chance.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 22 2015, 10:10:27 PM »

ok I checked a few more things.
1.  I reset the cam sensor.  I made sure it was at 25 atdc and then used the cam sensor tool to reset it.
2.  I used a playing card and cut it long ways about a 1/4 inch wide and placed it on each side of re-luctor wheel inside the crank
     sensor.  The reluctor wheel goes freely thru the sensor with very little if any contact.
3.  I checked all the fuses.
4.  The fuel pump is priming to 40psi.
5.   Key on I have over 11 volts on the green wire that goes to crank sensor.  unplugged


One thing I did not mention is that I just got my ecm back from eric at turbo tweak who made some repairs to my power logger.

I thought I would throw that in because I stated earlier that the only thing I had done was change front seal.
But he assured me that all is well with the ecm and chip.   

Next I plan to text the crank sensor itself.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 22 2015, 01:39:24 AM »

Mr. Steve,  I think I just wanted to have another reason to bug you and pick your brain for knowledge.

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General Buick Tech / Re: won't start after front seal repair

« on: February 21 2015, 11:00:12 PM »

I'll check the fuses and attempt to reset the crank sensor.

Hello Mr. Steve.

I hope this one isn't going to be as bad as the last issue you helped me with.

But if it does, I'm sure I'll learn something in the process.