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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: ledzeppac on January 18 2006, 11:58:59 AM

Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 18 2006, 11:58:59 AM: So I churped the tires the other day and I noticed my tac and boost gauge went south.... super...

Then I get into my car last night and realize my whole dash has gone out... the aftermarket gauges are not lit up and none of the stock dash light works.... But the idiot lights work...

BUT if I turn my lights of my stock tac and boost gauge work... nothing else and only when the lights are off....

I guess thats what I'm fixing all day today..

FUN STUFF :jerkit;
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: Recklessrob on January 18 2006, 12:34:24 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:58 am"
So I churped the tires the other day and I noticed my tac and boost gauge went south.... super...
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 18 2006, 08:42:38 PM: I have a feeling I'm never gonna be able to track this down.... I forgot to add... that the aftermarket gauges work just dont light up like they should...
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: sun dog on January 19 2006, 12:16:26 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:42 pm"
I have a feeling I'm never gonna be able to track this down.... I forgot to add... that the aftermarket gauges work just dont light up like they should...

Were they running thru the dimmer switch? I've done that before, I hit the dimmer and later when dark I thought the dash crapped out.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: 87natty on January 19 2006, 02:16:25 AM: Done both, dimmer switch and the switch burned out. I was using an NOS arm switch for a light switch until I got a new junkyard one. 5 bones, I bought 2.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 19 2006, 04:34:13 AM: hmmm that is a good point....

I think you guys are onto it. I use the twilight sentinal... and I know I have some "extra wires" running right up there. I have so many guages ( two I want to get rid of) and Brian is getting the pod...

I'm going to check it out tomorrow
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: 87natty on January 19 2006, 02:42:13 PM: Looks like I'm bringing a volt meter too...
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: Recklessrob on January 19 2006, 11:50:45 PM: I hope he's hooking you up with some beer too. :atbeer: <---Natty Ice
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: 87natty on January 20 2006, 01:07:27 AM: And a damn good fellating as well...
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: Recklessrob on January 20 2006, 01:10:27 AM: Quote from: "87natty @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:07 am"
And a damn good fellating as well...

Watch out for his friend "Tom" from Myspace. I've been hearing some shit about them two. :rofl;
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: Be4u on January 20 2006, 03:06:48 AM: I'm surprised Tom hasnt ever tried being my friend seeing as I know Lepizzle and all.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 20 2006, 05:38:43 AM: NOW low battery voltage... af reads 4, iac reads 3, code 24....

Never ending fucking battle... This car has been the worst decsision I have ever made.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 20 2006, 11:54:14 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:38 am"
NOW low battery voltage... af reads 4, iac reads 3, code 24....

Never ending fucking battle... This car has been the worst decsision I have ever made.
After hearing about the GN that went for around $34K at Barrett Jackson you should be holding your head up and keeping at it.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 20 2006, 12:12:53 PM: so yah the fuel gauge doesnt work either.... cool
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: Recklessrob on January 22 2006, 12:17:43 PM: It'll be an even bigger kick in the ass, if the fool who spent
all the money for the GN at Barret Jackson has the same problems we do. :rofl;
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: 87natty on January 22 2006, 02:15:50 PM: Any progress Phil? I was at his uncle's house Friday and Saturday. I woke up there and my pants were still on, so that's a relief. But anyway, he's got a shady fuel relay thing going on. Let's see if he got it before I begin explaining it...
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 22 2006, 02:59:46 PM: Got it...

So I went to get a new altinator to rule that out. I had to argue for an hour to get a new one becuase they tested it and it passed... But I explaned that "what is pass?" is 11 volts passing on the machine becuase the machine doesnt give a volt readout.... ! Just pass fall....

So after an hour I got a new one... slapped it on. As I put it on Morgan roles up and my cousin comes back... Morgan was very confused about that extra o2 sensor wire that was getting power. Car started, battery looked good, everything checked out ok.. Took it for a ride and all is good after the new altinator.. but we just ziptied that funky wire and did not connect it to the other terminal... I did get a code 13 today which is bad o2 sensor... but it runs fine and I'm stil getting crosscounts and everything.

So all in all it must have been the altinator combined with that strang wire that basically controlled the car.

I still havnt found the short in the dash for the lights... but at least it runs.

Thanks for helping me out Brian... I appreciate it. I'll put my picture up today...
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: sun dog on January 23 2006, 01:42:14 AM: Do you need that Heated O2 to pass CA emissions?

I'm not sure about these older cars but on the newer cars GM runs the alternator field voltage thru the speedo cluster.

So if you disconnect the speedo or take the cluster fuse out your alternator will have no input voltage to make any power. I've heard that in the older ones the power went thru the alternator/charge light in the dash on its way to the alternator.

Maybe your dash problem caused another problem.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 23 2006, 06:37:33 PM: NO heated is not needed...

I have never heard of that charge light to altinator thing... I have no idea.. I might have to take it to an electrician...
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: sun dog on January 23 2006, 11:17:38 PM: If you have a charging problem again in the immediate future, that might be it. If that happens I'll try to dig up more info.
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: sun dog on January 23 2006, 11:53:59 PM: Since it was a close coincidence that you had Alt. trouble just a few days after your dash problem, made me think of that dash>Alt. connection.

If you end up not liking the vacuum brakes for some reason let us know. I might have to go that route and have been putting it off.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: 87natty on January 24 2006, 12:41:08 AM: Conversion looked good and was real straight forward. Makes me mad for getting a factory PM unit a few years back.
Title: Another cool little problem
Post by: ledzeppac on January 24 2006, 02:51:41 AM: Morgan liked them alot too... he's now contimplating what he'll do in the future....
Title: Re: Another cool little problem
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 24 2006, 04:18:21 AM: I hope my car doesn't develop problems for me while she sits for these three years...my Dad hasn't been as consistent with starting her up as often as I want. I should of left her in TN with Ragland.