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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #30 on: February 02 2015, 09:11:37 PM »
Pump off the barn motor is exactly like your replacement pump.  Has a hose with clamp making the connection
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #31 on: February 03 2015, 07:14:16 AM »
thank you, it looks like the rubber hose to your pump sort of takes that same shape. I wonder if there was a design change in there somewhere to save money on that pump. (I'm sure you can package more pumps/pallet with the short inlet tube, even if it was just a short trip from Saginaw to Flint)

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« Reply #32 on: February 03 2015, 07:36:38 AM »
You might look at highway stars or kirbans for the hose.  Looks molded to make the routing clear everything.  I've never had to buy one, so haven't looked for one. 
 
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #33 on: February 03 2015, 06:04:44 PM »
thank you, it looks like the rubber hose to your pump sort of takes that same shape. I wonder if there was a design change in there somewhere to save money on that pump. (I'm sure you can package more pumps/pallet with the short inlet tube, even if it was just a short trip from Saginaw to Flint)

I wonder if its a post production change and in its present form fits another model as well.
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #34 on: February 03 2015, 07:03:07 PM »
I would guess it fits a few models... I'm feeling google lazy or I would check, but I'm a bit surprised how many people have not seen the one like came off my car.

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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 05 2015, 08:28:46 PM »
I picked up my new trans cooler lines from inline tube tonight, does anyone have pics of how they fit in the frame? I cant figure it out just by looking at them.

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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 06 2015, 09:43:13 AM »
Do these help?


http://perfauto.tripod.com/data/4-096.pdf

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Although my radiator doesnt have those fittings in it, so thats a small concern. I was on the fence about switching the radiator anyhow.
I dont have any of the unions or the clips/brackets. but I guess that wont be the end of the world to find those now that I have that drawing and part number.
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 06 2015, 05:40:05 PM »
Hey Gavin!


I went with these silicone PS hoses from GBody Parts last year while replacing my PS pump & reservoir at the same time. 
Works great & fits like a glove.
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http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=46_22_44_50&products_id=1274&osCsid=9d069e415d04348ec07bfbe00a9f5402


http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?cPath=46_22_44_50&products_id=1271&osCsid=9d069e415d04348ec07bfbe00a9f5402






Highway Stars also offers the hoses in the more traditional rubber material:


http://highwaystars.net/brakes-steering-suspension/




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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 06 2015, 05:58:31 PM »
hey check that out, there is a different shape for the 86 hose... that explains that. I might run an aftermarket reservoir, so bulk hose will probably be ok, but thats a really good find.

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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #42 on: February 16 2015, 11:03:48 AM »
Disconnect the green plug that's just behind and below the alternator.  One is a tach signal, and the other one goes to the fuel pump to facilitate draining the tank via the fuel rail


Plug and wire for A/C compressor is routed behind and then between the bracket to connect to the compressor. Let me know if a pic would help
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #43 on: February 16 2015, 11:59:27 AM »
Disconnect the green plug that's just behind and below the alternator.  One is a tach signal, and the other one goes to the fuel pump to facilitate draining the tank via the fuel rail


Plug and wire for A/C compressor is routed behind and then between the bracket to connect to the compressor. Let me know if a pic would help

I knew that didnt look right, I'll have to tuck that green one back into the harness. I have a jumper somewhere with a clip on one end that I made to purge the fuel tank by connecting that wire to the alternator, I need to find that.

That makes sense why I didnt mark those 2 because they werent connected to anything. Just goes to show you cant remember everything after letting a car sit for several years.
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Re: My 1986 Grand National (re) Build Thread
« Reply #44 on: February 17 2015, 06:01:22 PM »
Gavin...any issues with the emissions idiots there with the breathers in the rockers and the EGR plate? That's $350 x 3 up here for fines. Each emission infraction is $350 bucks. I'm not joking.
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