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detailing single stage black lacquer-
wmsonta:
After waiting 5 wks on an appointment with the supposed best detail man there is, he jerked me around. Wanted me to make another appointment. I do not give money to anybody who jerks me around. I am going to detail the gn myself. I hate detailing, always have. So, even though I was around a lot of it, I paid little attention and learned less.
This thread may be a bit hasty for a number of reasons. I am old. UPS brought my headliner today. I do a small workout 5 days a week. I get hauled to the races almost every weekend. I prefer to do most work on a slab in front of a building that is 15 ft to the rafters and only shaded in the pm.
What I need-Mckees 37 waterless wash to go (I believe the same as Detailer's or Dealer's? Pride)
sandwich baggies
painter s tape
Q tips
XMT Speed Clay and XMT speed clay Lube
loop weave or heavy pile micro-fiber towels
Meguiar's #7
Meguiar's #26 wax or equivalent.
I think my best bet is to find a supplier who has the most of these and try to combine shipping.
I consider a single stage lacquer to be the thinnest oem paint job. I believe the primer and paint combined to be less than half as thick as just the clear coat on modern stuff. There will be no abrasives. I own top of the line buffers and polishers, DA's, everything you could ask. I do not trust myself to use them on this no tint added black car. I intend, all by hand. Tape off one panel at a time.
If you have opinions, advice, a favorite supplier, experiences, etc., now is the time to get in here.
Grumpy:
Isn't it crazy ? almost like they don't want to work. I use to do paint work in the late 70's. Back when lacquer had all the good stuff in it. :icon_smile: Now I like buffing an cleaning the car up but it seems like I just talk about it an get nothing done. Now when you done come up here an do my station wagon. paint is a mess.
wmsonta:
--- Quote from: Grumpy on July 18 2019, 06:54:23 AM --- almost like they don't want to work.
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If he didn't want to do my car, he should have just said so. He was booked solid 5 wks ahead. I can understand, he can make easier money than an original paint car that has been stored 23 yrs.
Anyway, I bought supplies from Auto Geek today. I hit some kind of lottery and got 25% off + free shipping. Detailer's Pride is gone, the same product sold by the same man is McKee's waterless wash. XMT Speed Clay is gone and I bought the product that replaced it. I bought a 6 pk of Cobra 600 Jr micro fiber towels. Not shaded enough time where I want to do this. Some will have to be done inside the shop.
daveismissing:
I tried to do some research on "paint correction" ( what a yuppie phrase) in the spring.
Both cars have been neglected for a while. They are drivers and have had repaints so not in the same class as your cars.
Seems everybody is an expert in detailing and they are all polarized fan boys, probably to sell the brands they tout.
I finally ran across one youtuber who acknowledged the insanity, suggested simply use (after clay) griot complete compound from a chain store with a decent DA and an orange pad. Probably the way I will go.
wmsonta:
--- Quote from: daveismissing on July 19 2019, 08:58:12 AM ---"I tried to do some research on "paint correction" ( what a yuppie phrase) in the spring.
Both cars have been neglected for a while. They are drivers and have had repaints so not in the same class as your cars."
If yours were repainted in the last 20 yrs, you are probably dealing with better quality paint.
"Seems everybody is an expert in detailing and they are all polarized fan boys, probably to sell the brands they tout."
I wish I knew more about it, today. A lot of the brands I knew anything about are long gone. I guarantee, I will be unable to tell if the paint is clean without the 'baggie test'.
"I finally ran across one youtuber who acknowledged the insanity, suggested simply use (after clay) griot complete compound from a chain store with a decent DA and an orange pad. Probably the way I will go."
Man, I would like to use a machine. If I value the result, experience has taught not to. I would in an instant if I was working with clearcoat. I watched a really young man erase a deep scratch in a few minutes. Deep enough to catch a fingernail. Probably 16 in long. Clear coat is usually that thick.
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