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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: ledzeppac on December 22 2005, 04:21:10 PM

Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: ledzeppac on December 22 2005, 04:21:10 PM: Its slow.

I get knock at 5 lbs of boost and above.

Headliner is falling.

Paint is now fucked.

Window tint is now fucked

Engine is now dirty and leaks oil... I know they all do

cd player is broke

bad gas mileage

now there is some wierd grinding noise at start up... not initial start up, but when reved to 1500rpms.... something clanging

Powermaster is shot... probably gonna die soon

Turbo blows some oil (might be cuase of knock)

interior is no mint like it was

Thats all I can think of...

Mind you it has less than 80k I put about 18k on it and it only ran great for 2 weeks. The owner before me was nuts and documented everything... one of those guys.... It looked great, couldn't find anything wrong with it when I bought it... now :finga: :rolleyes: :finga: :rolleyes: :finga: :vom: :mad: :jerkit;
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 22 2005, 04:30:33 PM: oops forgot threw a code 42.... yesterday... I think It actually might be the ECM 'cause the screw that held the kick panel fell out and I'm sure that its not plugged in well enough...
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Post by: 87natty on December 22 2005, 04:34:46 PM: You know what? I'm going up to your place next week.
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Post by: Top Speed on December 22 2005, 05:04:33 PM: Shit like that starts to happen when your car is almost 20 years old. :mad:
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Post by: DCEPTCN on December 22 2005, 06:04:37 PM: The noise you describe sounds like when my rockers went to shit on my first GN.
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Post by: Be4u on December 22 2005, 06:43:37 PM: Natty, save the poor boy. Sounds like you'll need to take a couple days off school though.
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Post by: 87natty on December 22 2005, 08:13:39 PM: Already out, if I don't go to help him, I'd just drunk.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 22 2005, 08:53:48 PM: Well swamped out the new coil pack and module for the old one and all was good for about 5 minutes and then..... code 42....

ECM was plugged in well enough. I'll have to give someone close a call to let me borrow their ECM for a day.
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Post by: gordyzx9r on December 23 2005, 04:09:12 AM: If it doesn't have any rust...wanna sell it?
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 23 2005, 05:32:02 PM: No rust... No sell... I'd lose way tooo much money and have to hear my Dad say told you so.. Besides I havn't even been able to experience a GN yet.

What else could throw a code 42 Module, ECM, and T+ maybe....
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Post by: 87natty on December 23 2005, 06:15:07 PM: I thinks it the T+ or a bad connection. Keep clearing your compuer and see if it comes back or not.
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Post by: Gary Wells on December 23 2005, 09:35:19 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:32 pm"
No rust... No sell... I'd lose way tooo much money and have to hear my Dad say told you so..
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 23 2005, 10:44:54 PM: umm no... it worked... then it didn't.... Smart ass
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Post by: 87natty on December 23 2005, 10:52:46 PM: You or the car?
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 23 2005, 11:24:15 PM: both
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 24 2005, 10:56:26 AM: Phil, save this chart for future refrence.

http://www.turbobuicks.com/resources/TurboBuicks.com_ECM_Error_Codes.pdf

42= C31 Electronic Spark Timing (EST) fail

Try checking your Knock Sensor and EST module (on passengers inner fender)
The EST monitors knock and sends timing correction signals to the ignition module.
Also look for sources of false knock. (loose bolts, valvetrain, etc... Note an
overly rich condition can also cause false knock) I'll look up the code 42 diag procedure when I'm back at work and post it for you.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 24 2005, 12:52:02 PM: Wow... Thanks Robert.... I didnt even know about the EST module.... I thought that was the Ignition Module, one in the same... oops.

So the 42 could be caused by the knock sensor?

I have the error code chart in the car with me.
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Post by: 87natty on December 24 2005, 03:20:26 PM: Sometimes I just want to slap a Q-Jet on it and get it over with...
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Post by: 87natty on December 24 2005, 03:23:03 PM: Hey, check your codes without the Scanmaster too. I've gotten the SES light without the SM picking anything up.
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Post by: gordyzx9r on December 24 2005, 10:58:45 PM: Do you have pics of you car posted anywhere Phil?

Rust free T? Don't sell it without giving me first dibs...I'd give her a warm caring home.
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 24 2005, 11:55:17 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:20 pm"
Sometimes I just want to slap a Q-Jet on it and get it over with...

Nah, 'cause everytime you'd hit the gas, it'd be like flushing a toilet full of gas ! :rofl;
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Post by: 87natty on December 25 2005, 01:25:10 AM: No doubt! Ever use a 50cc accelerator pump on a Holley? I think the linkage is hooked up the gas gauge after that.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 25 2005, 02:08:56 AM: Guys I'm not gonna sell my GN.... I would lose 15K+!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 25 2005, 02:16:31 AM: Here are some Shots of the car when I brought it home....
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Post by: Gary Wells on December 25 2005, 03:45:58 AM: Quote from: "87natty @ Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:25 pm"
No doubt! Ever use a 50cc accelerator pump on a Holley? I think the linkage is hooked up the gas gauge after that.

--------------------------------------------
I am an old, (very old, ha) holley carb user, the worst offenders are 50 cc double pumpers, mechanical secondaries, & center squiters, . Nothing holds a candle to then for pure fuel waste.
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Post by: gordyzx9r on December 25 2005, 04:26:14 AM: Egads it's a GN!?! I've got one of those...I want a T or a T-Type that isn't white (but I'd still take Gary's since it's such a survivor).
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Post by: 87natty on December 25 2005, 03:51:10 PM: Quote from: "Gary Wells @ Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:45 am"

I am an old, (very old, ha) holley carb user, the worst offenders are 50 cc double pumpers, mechanical secondaries, & center squiters, . Nothing holds a candle to then for pure fuel waste.

I was using a 4160 for a while with the secondarys linked up with a stop screw. After a couple of blown power valves, I went up to the 4150. And then abandoned all for Q-Jets.

:prayer: Q-Jet
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 26 2005, 01:01:32 AM: I've had better luck than most when it comes to tweaking
a Quadra Bog, but I went to a Carter AFB in the pickup for all
the tuning options available without a power valve. I still
feel a properly tuned Holley has better throttle response.
I also find that the check valves that they sell to protect
the power valve seem to hinder the throttle response in a
Holley.IMHO
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 26 2005, 01:31:46 AM: Oh, and Phil, your car looks nice in the pics. But I'd recommend
hitting that guy in the first pic with a shovel or something, and tell
him to get away from your car ! :rofl;
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Post by: 87natty on December 26 2005, 05:34:47 AM: Bah! A properly tuned Q-Jet (feedback! No less!) will hand with a Holley and get better gas mileage. It's all in the hanger, needles and air valve. But that's also a lot of scrounging in boneyards. I love my Q-Jets. AFB's don't flow enough and Holley's flow too much, at least for me.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 26 2005, 01:13:15 PM: Thanks for the comments on the car....

I started it right up yesterday and no code.... I'll see today what it does....
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Post by: 87natty on December 26 2005, 01:14:43 PM: Check your harness grounds behind the heads, next to the firewall.
Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: Recklessrob on December 27 2005, 01:15:07 AM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:34 am"
Bah! A properly tuned Q-Jet (feedback! No less!) will hand with a Holley and get better gas mileage. It's all in the hanger, needles and air valve. But that's also a lot of scrounging in boneyards. I love my Q-Jets. AFB's don't flow enough and Holley's flow too much, at least for me.

It all depends on what your demands are. The AFB works fine on a V6. I have
a Q-jet in the Grand Prix that works just fine too. Feedback as well. I used
to have a Q-jet on the Mazda, but it was simply too much for the truck. When it comes to racing, holleys (and modofied holley designs ex Demon, BG etc...) are hard to beat because there is so much available for them. Even Nascar uses them.
Especailly important when you go big. I'll take a 750 cfm Holley over a 750 cfm
AFB or 795 cfm Q-jet anyday. IMHO
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 27 2005, 12:47:22 PM: Ta60 is on.... runs much better... stronger....

But I dotn think I can drop the hammer into boost, I still have to role into boost... never ending with the car.

I think I'm going to get it washed and waxed today along with fixing the headliner
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 27 2005, 01:05:59 PM: its 'bout time you got that thing on. :psix;
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 29 2005, 09:57:28 PM: hmmm ok does not knock with 100 octane but it is running extrememly rich... o2's 845 boost was only at about 11 lbs and it was slow but at least it wasnt knocking... I wil get more into details later.
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Post by: Recklessrob on December 30 2005, 12:41:55 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:57 pm"
hmmm
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 02:06:10 AM: I want to but it knocks like crazy with 91 and I'm scared to lean it out. I seriouslyt get like 5 and up all the way to 10 degrees of knock at like 7,8,9 lbs of boost?????

I also get shift knocks with 91 and none with 100.....
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Post by: Gary Wells on December 30 2005, 07:11:16 AM: Whose chip are you running, and what's it set at for timing?
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Post by: Top Speed on December 30 2005, 10:34:55 AM: Sounds like the timing is set too high for that shitty 91 octane.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 11:40:31 AM: Neal Steward chip..... most likely 17 degrees like yours Gary....

Also, Now I'm getting tons of knock when reved in nuetral... like 33 wtf.....

But in Gear rpms dont go over 4000....

Most likey due to running really rich, I hope.
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Post by: sun dog on December 30 2005, 11:53:06 AM: I need to sneak some GM Top Engine cleaner to you guys. It works miracles if you have a lot of carbon build-up in there. Could your ESC module be bad and not retarding when it's knocking? I think they are around $50. Maybe you could unplug it and see what code you get and see how it runs without it.
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Post by: sun dog on December 30 2005, 11:57:16 AM: If you have a multimeter check your coil pack. I think it's around 11-13ohms. My middle coil was bad and I didn't have any symptoms. Wouldn't hurt to check the wire routing to make sure they didn't get mixed up.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 12:00:46 PM: No coil pack is ok I have 3 different sets that have been on.

I might want to change the ESC module cuase I did get a code 42 last week for two days and then it went away.

I didnt even know about that little thin until last week.

Watch two years of frustration and its that......
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Post by: Top Speed on December 30 2005, 12:46:28 PM: Ever check on your motor mounts and see if they are OK?
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Post by: sun dog on December 30 2005, 12:50:13 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:21 pm"

now there is some wierd grinding noise at start up... not initial start up, but when reved to 1500rpms.... something clanging

I hope your not hearing rod or main bearing knock. Keep an eye on your oil pressure. Both my TR's fell to rod bearing failure. It started on the one with a hot rod knock and got worse. When you change your oil cut the filter open and strech out the paper filter to look for shavings.
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Post by: Gary Wells on December 30 2005, 01:24:22 PM: Phil:
If there is anything that I can do to help, let me know, but you know how little I know about these things. You are only a hop, skip, & a jump from Lou's shop. I would drive it down there and see what he thinks. He is not going to fix the motor for free, but i will bet that he will know right away whether you need a motor, or a sensor. Also, can you tell if you are getting real knock or false knock? Let me know if I can help. Might try Morgan, too.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 03:45:29 PM: oh oh I forgot to tell you guys the start up noise was a heat shield that fell in between the exhaust manifold and the heads... a big nothing.

Thanks Gary I know I wanted to get over to HB car show tomorrow but its my buddy's 21st tonight sooooo yah well you know.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 03:51:30 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:46 am"
Ever check on your motor mounts and see if they are OK?
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Post by: 87natty on December 30 2005, 04:11:07 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:00 am"

I might want to change the ESC module cuase I did get a code 42 last week for two days and then it went away.

If it's intermittent, I would think something is loose, like a ground or maybe even the knock sensor itself. Take you knock sensor out and re torque it. Check the grounds on the back of your heads. Take off your torque converter sheild and check the bolts, they may be loose. Check your tranny mount too, as well as the crossmember to body mount.
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 04:17:35 PM: Tranny mounts good, torque bolts good, crossmember good.

I still need to check grounds but most look good that I can look at without digging down....
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Post by: Top Speed on December 30 2005, 04:21:46 PM: Don't for get the passenger side mount too. Mine was completely collapsed before I replaced it.
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Post by: 87natty on December 30 2005, 04:36:57 PM: If you changed your tubro, then clean out your IC again. It's probably still full of oil. Seafoam your damn car. I'll do it with you, it's great.
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Post by: DRAGULA GN on December 30 2005, 04:49:31 PM: Hey Phill...I see Snorman is trolling around over here. Maybe he can help out with all the TR gurus they have over there and his infinite wisdom and such lol
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Post by: ledzeppac on December 30 2005, 04:56:52 PM: Quote from: "DRAGULA GN @ Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:49 pm"
Hey Phill...I see Snorman is trolling around over here. Maybe he can help out with all the TR gurus they have over there and his infinite wisdom and such
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 01 2006, 02:01:52 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:56 pm"

Brian....
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 05 2006, 03:52:36 PM: Motor mount on driver side was relaced not to long ago. Engine does not come up when in gear and power braking.

Now it doesn't start..... cool

Just clicks
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Post by: 87natty on January 05 2006, 05:14:55 PM: Charge your battery.
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 05 2006, 05:20:11 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:14 pm"
Charge your battery.
Word.

Phil, what does your Scanmaster say the battery's at?

If it makes you feel any better, your car is still not nearly as haunted as mine.....I found out why it wasn't starting the other night and now I'm convinced that it's deliberately fucking with me.
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Post by: Top Speed on January 05 2006, 06:36:17 PM: Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:20 pm"
I found out why it wasn't starting the other night

Well??????????????
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 05 2006, 06:37:18 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:36 pm"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:20 pm"
I found out why it wasn't starting the other night

Well??????????????
I'll start a new thread.
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 05 2006, 07:06:43 PM: Done and done.

Battery was 8 years old
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Post by: Top Speed on January 06 2006, 07:23:06 AM: Damn....I bet things work better now.
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Post by: Ttype83 on January 06 2006, 08:59:10 AM: Hmm my cheap batteries don't last more than 2 or 3 years :mad:
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 06 2006, 02:57:21 PM: it was an Ac Delco battery.....
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 06 2006, 04:10:27 PM: I had a bad fan relay kill like 3 batteries in a row a couple of years ago. I just couldn't figure out why batteries kept dying on me even though I wasn't driving the car.....then one day I came home and the fan was running even though it was 30 degrees outside and the car hadn't been started in about a week.

....have I mentioned my car is haunted?
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Post by: Be4u on January 07 2006, 04:41:04 AM: Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:10 pm"
I had a bad fan relay kill like 3 batteries in a row a couple of years ago.
Isnt that when Natty made that Casper photoshop? Pretty damn cool pic!
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 07 2006, 06:49:18 AM: Quote from: "Be4u @ Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:41 am"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:10 pm"
I had a bad fan relay kill like 3 batteries in a row a couple of years ago.
Isnt that when Natty made that Casper photoshop? Pretty damn cool pic!

I remember that . :rofl;
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 12:11:53 PM: I need to find that pic......
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 01:44:13 PM: Spools up external hard drive...
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 02:01:29 PM: (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5015/sylvan9jx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 02:50:13 PM: God that is priceless. lol And it's kinda wierd to see an old pic of my car.....since then so much has changed.
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 03:39:25 PM: Nice tranny cooler...
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 03:42:35 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:39 pm"
Nice tranny cooler...
It's been straight for ages now! Quit criticizing my cooler and paint your damned fender! lol

....um the car, not the guitar.
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 03:50:31 PM: The front clip too... :(
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Post by: Top Speed on January 09 2006, 04:02:18 PM: LOL I remember that tranny cooler!
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 04:07:31 PM: EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THE GODDAMNED TRANNY COOLER ALREADY, IT JUST WOULDN'T STAY PUT!!!
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 05:38:40 PM: I had to wade through t6p to get that Casper picture, by the way.
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 05:42:09 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:38 pm"
I had to wade through t6p to get that Casper picture, by the way.
It rinses off.
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 05:55:12 PM: With what? Tomato juice?
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2006, 06:08:21 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:55 pm"
With what? Tomato juice?
Nah, the blood of those whose cars don't run 9's. Argh, matey.
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 09 2006, 07:08:47 PM: stop hijacking this thread is about how my car sucks not your's Sylvan!

Brian you still down for this week?
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Post by: Be4u on January 09 2006, 08:55:52 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:38 pm"
I had to wade through t6p to get that Casper picture, by the way.
LoL, sorry, I knew the pic was at t6p. I wasnt going to go and get it. Thanks for taking one for the team!!! Tag Nattys it!
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Post by: 87natty on January 09 2006, 09:21:00 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:08 pm"
stop hijacking this thread is about how my car sucks not your's Sylvan!
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 10 2006, 10:56:18 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:55 pm"
With what? Tomato juice?

Goats blood or Mercon V. :smt096
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 11 2006, 06:46:55 PM: Well Vacuum brakes came in today hopefulyl they will get on soon so I dont die.

Stereo is fixed. Ipod connected

Perfromance is still a little iffy.

Need an alky DIY alky kit
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 11 2006, 11:53:59 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:46 pm"
Well Vacuum brakes came in today hopefulyl they will get on soon so I dont die.
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Post by: 87natty on January 12 2006, 12:21:33 AM: C'mon, this is Phil. Give me a call on Friday.
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 12 2006, 01:05:50 AM: Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:21 am"
C'mon, this is Phil. Give me a call on Friday.

Its still all bolt in. Yes, even Phil can do it. :mad:
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Post by: sun dog on January 12 2006, 01:19:31 AM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:05 pm"
Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:21 am"
C'mon, this is Phil. Give me a call on Friday.

Its still all bolt in. Yes, even Phil can do it. :mad:

Bolt-in or Strap-on? :smt033
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 12 2006, 02:19:11 AM: Oh come on give me a little credit! I can do some things.... Remember I took apart the whole top end in the summer.... AND put it back together...

(http://photos-n-09.facebook.com/n9/4454/37/35800283/n35800283_30087671_4241.jpg)

(http://photos-n-09.facebook.com/n9/4454/37/35800283/n35800283_30087672_4553.jpg)

Brian I called you today, "just to talk," I left a message.
I'll give you a call friday. What day are you thinking of coming?
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Post by: Be4u on January 12 2006, 05:00:28 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:19 pm"
Remember I took apart the whole top end in the summer.... AND put it back together...
With help from your uncle....asscl own
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 12 2006, 12:24:23 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:19 am"

Brian I called you today, "just to talk," I left a message.
I'll give you a call friday.
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 12 2006, 01:02:19 PM: Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:24 pm"
Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:19 am"

Brian I called you today, "just to talk," I left a message.
I'll give you a call friday.
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Post by: Be4u on January 12 2006, 04:04:10 PM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:02 am"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:24 pm"
Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:19 am"

Brian I called you today, "just to talk," I left a message.
I'll give you a call friday.
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Post by: DCEPTCN on January 12 2006, 07:23:20 PM: I think of myself as being eloquent enough to, like, not need 'em....or sumthin'.
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Post by: Top Speed on January 15 2006, 12:08:02 PM: I would seriously pull out that heated O2 and put in the stock AC Delco one. I have had bad luck with the heated ones...
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Post by: 87natty on January 15 2006, 11:06:02 PM: Or get a Denso. They're like 25 bones.
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 15 2006, 11:52:41 PM: yah I was thinking of doing that but "dont fix it if its not broken.."

So What explains the high high high bls at cruise and acceleration? I always figured that if I had a vsaccum leak bl would be high at idle also... they are right on 128-131 most of the time.... at cruise and wot they are 140-156.....
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 16 2006, 01:45:17 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:52 pm"
yah I was thinking of doing that but "dont fix it if its not broken.."

So What explains the high high high blms at cruise and acceleration?
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Post by: sun dog on January 16 2006, 02:30:06 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:52 pm"
yah I was thinking of doing that but "dont fix it if its not broken.."

So What explains the high high high bls at cruise and acceleration? I always figured that if I had a vsaccum leak bl would be high at idle also... they are right on 128-131 most of the time.... at cruise and wot they are 140-156.....

Maybe EGR?
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 16 2006, 02:36:54 AM: Quote from: "sun dog @ Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:30 am"
Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:52 pm"
yah I was thinking of doing that but "dont fix it if its not broken.."

So What explains the high high high bls at cruise and acceleration?
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 16 2006, 02:44:22 AM: I checked the other day but I dont remember the numbers.... I'll have to put the gauge back up... I think I'm going to throw on the old 237 regulator for now so I dont have to adjust any fuel....
Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: Recklessrob on January 16 2006, 03:01:24 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:44 am"
I checked the other day but I dont remember the numbers.... I'll have to put the gauge back up... I think I'm going to throw on the old 237 regulator for now so I dont have to adjust any fuel....

I'd leave the adjustable regulator on, unless you see something wrong with it.
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 16 2006, 03:05:39 AM: well theres nothing wrong but I dont know accurate my gauge is right now and I dont want to keep dicking with putting the fuel up and down trying to get a good spot...
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 16 2006, 03:10:41 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:05 am"
well theres nothing wrong but I dont know accurate my gauge is right now and I dont want to keep dicking with putting the fuel up and down trying to get a good spot...

Set it to the specs provided by your chip manufacturer, and leave
it for now.
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Post by: 87natty on January 16 2006, 03:40:58 PM: 42 lbs, line off. Neal's style.

What about your check valves?
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 16 2006, 05:30:50 PM: u, yah they are there.... how would I check those?

So its possible to have a vacuum leak that wouldn't show up at idel but under rpm?
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 18 2006, 01:04:33 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:30 pm"
u, yah they are there.... how would I check those?
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 18 2006, 10:03:22 PM: Ok well some great fucking news today...

Light still dont work but thats not the fun part

I put my 237 regualator on to "KISS"

ANNNNNNNNNNNNN NNND fuel pressure went from 44 psi to 48 psi... hmmm My gauge is way off. Also it was 7 psi off from a local 10 second cars gauge... fuck that its a new gauge..

Now the wierd thing is it knock more with the fuel at 44 (on my gauge) than it did at 40 satic(also on my gauge)

So I'll see what happens...

Note: I had the knock issue way before I even bought the adj regualator and put it on...
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Post by: 87natty on January 19 2006, 02:09:37 AM: There's such thing as a rich knock...
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 19 2006, 04:40:01 AM: yah but Brain as you see... my gauge had to have been way off...

mine said 41 Morgan's 35
my 237 48 where it should be 39-43 static....

SO I was running lean...

BUT WAIT

I got on it a little turning and almost crashed at only like 6 lbs of boost... so ok no knock.... tried a little more boost 10 or so and 7 KR....

so that was the last of boost for today.

I need a new chip burned for the TA60

I think I'm just gonna get an extender and be done with it
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 19 2006, 07:43:39 AM: I'd put the adj reg back on w/ a new gauge, and have a chip burned
for your combo. Then see what happens...
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Post by: 87natty on January 19 2006, 02:41:39 PM: Exactly...
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Post by: ledzeppac on January 23 2006, 07:58:12 PM: Well vacuum brakes are in... Bought them off RedRegalT for $160 three day shipping and a stay down gas door came out to $195...

Easy to install.. the hardest part was getting the front seat out... after that it was simple.

They stop great... I like them alot. We just bench blead them... didnt even bleed them on the car.

Thanks Brian I'll put some pics up from the adventure
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Post by: 87natty on January 24 2006, 12:39:32 AM: Bleed them stupid ass. It'll only get better. If I'm right, the cylinder bore on the master is bigger than stock, giving you more fluid volume. Embrace a real brake system to the fullest.
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Post by: Recklessrob on January 25 2006, 07:34:27 AM: Sometimes you can get lucky, but bleed them anyways to make sure.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 17 2006, 02:40:53 AM: Not gonna lie... Kinda worried... Car sounds like shit and drives a little funny...

I'm gonna take it to Lou Czarnota and have him ass rape me to figure out whats up...

I have a bad feeling its a wiped cam lobe and there is some damage... Just a bad feeling about it.. And I honestly am BROKE... I have no money left so I dont know what I'm going to do.

I told me dad that I was taking the car to get looked at and all I got was the you "Dumb fuck" you...

This sucks
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Post by: 87natty on February 17 2006, 03:36:26 AM: I know that look.

There was no cam damage before the springs right? Change your oil. Cut your filter open. Look for bits of cam.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 17 2006, 11:18:21 AM: yah. great feelingl... Everytime I work on the car I get the "stupid fuck I told you so"....

Well I'm gonna call lou right now..
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 17 2006, 09:56:51 PM: ok so Lou said my car is falling apart...

Coil pack was bad so I had a bad miss.. but it still didnt fix it. The Tensioner is bad so it makes a horrible noise. And I have somesort of valvetrain issue. I hold vacuum but it is very erratic so I need to do a compression test and take off the vavle covers to see what is going on.

I hate this piece of shit
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 18 2006, 02:46:54 AM: Dude, we've all been through it at one time or another. Its
times like these that I wish you guys lived closer, so I could
help you out.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 18 2006, 04:37:46 AM: Thanks Rob...

I know everyone goes through this... but jsut the history of the car pisses me off how I bought it the "right way" and still had problems....
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Post by: Gary Wells on February 18 2006, 08:36:00 AM: Philharmonic:
Glad to hear that Lou helped you out.
Sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble with the car.
Hope that it gets better soon.
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Post by: Top Speed on February 18 2006, 08:53:28 AM: I really feel for you guys that have to drive these cars for a daily driver. I would not even consider it.

I hope you get things straightened out.
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Post by: 87natty on February 18 2006, 11:02:41 AM: These are not the cars for broke ass college kids...

Phil, let's bang out your chain, I know you have one. Get a new tensioner too, and cut your damn filter open.

What did Lou say was wrong with your coil pack? Is it the ignition module?
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 18 2006, 02:12:59 PM: The coil pack was done... I had a spare in the trunk through it on and it cleared up a little..

I still had a miss at idle, so, I'll through on a new ignition module I have and SEE. But Lou said there is definatly something going on with the valvetrain whether it be a wiped cam lob, bent valve, dead cylinder etc... So, when it stops raining I have to do a compression check and then take the valve covers off and watch it while it runs..
Then go from there.... I'm guessing cam lobe?
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 18 2006, 07:48:27 PM: As for the timing chain: buy a double roller, and throw away the tensioner.
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Post by: sun dog on February 19 2006, 01:16:58 AM: Get a cheap cycle to get around with while you get her together. Take advantage of that Cali sunshine.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 19 2006, 03:30:38 PM: Wish I could but I cant ride it as my leg is perminantly straight!
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 19 2006, 08:36:26 PM: well did the compression test today and suprising results...

6-170
4-165
2-170
5-165
3-165
1-160

So compression is good...

It drives like it is in limp mode... so maybe I ahve a bad chip or computer??? I'll have to start asking around for parts to borrow.
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 20 2006, 12:53:00 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:36 pm"
well did the compression test today and suprising results...

6-170
4-165
2-170
5-165
3-165
1-160

So compression is good...
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 20 2006, 02:11:16 AM: Lou wants me to take off the valve covers and check the valvetrain while on....

Then go from there...

I guess the car could use some sea foam?
Could this high carbon build up cause any knock?
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 20 2006, 12:20:45 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:11 am"
Lou wants me to take off the valve covers and check the valvetrain while on....

Then go from there...

I guess the car could use some sea foam?
Could this high carbon build up cause any knock?

It would have to be severe for that to happen.
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Post by: 87natty on February 20 2006, 12:53:53 PM: Eh... I think enough carbon build up on the tops of the pistons will create a few hotspots to promote detonation. The amount however is not known and how much you have is not known either. Couldn't hurt to try it, but it's not a magic fix either.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 20 2006, 06:55:50 PM: well of course its not gonna be magic...

BUt I have bigger issues to deal with now, knock is nothing anymore...
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Post by: sun dog on February 20 2006, 09:51:46 PM: Have you tried different spark plugs?

I don't know if you can get the GM top engine cleaner out there but it does wonders. I have a few laying around if you want to try one PM me your address and I'll contraband you one out.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 03:14:49 AM: yah... I've had MANY differenet ones in...

I'll take you up on the top engine cleaner... but hold off for now, I need to get it running again.

Sad I had to drive to school max speed was 30 mph.... I wish I could park it and get a ride
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 12:31:37 PM: When you're thinkin' of sellin' cheap, I'm the guy to call. It's too bad you couldn't drag that bitch up to Vegas in a few weeks so that we could all get a look at it. New eyes see clear, y'know?
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 01:50:25 PM: yah sure... I'd lose more than 10,000 if I sold it... I can never sell it now
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 04:19:26 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:50 am"
yah sure... I'd lose more than 10,000 if I sold it... I can never sell it now
Only 10 G's? Hell, you're in a better spot than I and you can still drive, however slow, get out now while you still can! Hey man, as long as you've a little cash kickin' around, there's no shame in in giving up and taking it to a knowledgeable shop to get it looked at.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 06:15:10 PM: car 11750
Misc parts 3500
transmission that can support 950HP yet is now not shifting correctly 2700
turbo 500

gas... 4000

So in two years the car has cost me 23500... or so..

I could have bought finished car that ran 10's for the amount I put into it!
Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: Recklessrob on February 21 2006, 06:27:49 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:15 pm"
car 11750
Misc parts 3500
transmission that can support 950HP yet is now not shifting correctly 2700
turbo 500

gas... 4000

So in two years the car has cost me 23500... or so..

I could have bought finished car that ran 10's for the amount I put into it!

You could've, but you wouldn't know anything about it.
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 06:40:15 PM: You can't count gas, fool. My receipt book is everything but fluids....hell, it costs me around $100 to fill my tank (fortunately I rarely drive the car).

Let's see:

Car: $7000
Converter: $500
Hi perf rebuild: $4500
GTA wheels: $700
GTA centercaps: $80
GTA lugs and caps: $85
Steel shim headgasket kit: $130
65 lb. Mototron injectors: ~$450
Assorted gaskets, sensors valves and plastic lines: ~$250
Shocks: ~$150
Blower motor: $40
2 SMC kits that I ended up getting rid of: ~$450
Assorted gauges: $500
Scanmaster: $275
DRs: $300 (giant screw in one)
Vacuum brakes: ~$200
3 shifter cables (and now this one's bad, too): ~$300
Buying numerous beers for those who've helped me work on the POS: ~$400
PT51: $450 (used)
Ramchargers fans: $100
Numerous chips: $225
Gauge holder: $40
Badging: ~$150
Alternators, Starters: ~$400
Coilpacks, ignition modules: ~$500
Millions of belts, plugs and plug wires that rarely got more than 100 miles put
Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: Top Speed on February 21 2006, 06:42:32 PM: So what's the total? ^^^

I feel very lazy at the moment....
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 06:45:10 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:42 pm"
So what's the total? ^^^
I'd have to go home and add up EVERYTHING in the receipt book....it's an obscene amount of money to spend on a car I never drive, but I know it's still less than you've invested in yours.....then again, you can be proud of yours.
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 21 2006, 06:47:11 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:42 pm"
So what's the total? ^^^

I feel very lazy at the moment....

I think his computer broke. :rofl;

I know I could top that, but I'm afraid that I'd end up in
a mental treatment facility if I actually figured out what I've spent on my car....
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 06:47:52 PM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:27 pm"

You could've, but you wouldn't know anything about it.
Very good point.

BTW, since I hit "Submit" above, I've thought of like 17 other things to add to the list.....botto m line: these AREN'T wallet-friendly cars.
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Post by: Top Speed on February 21 2006, 06:48:52 PM: Dude you've got $21,520 in your damn car!!

p.s. I can email you a spreadsheet with the above items listed in it...

I probably have more than $30k in mine.....It's a damn shame.... :D
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 06:54:06 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:48 pm"
Dude you've got $21,520 in your damn car!!
By that list above? Hell, then call it an even $25,000 'cause there's a lot more I'm forgetting. That's a lot of money for a guy with a family and a mortgage, my friends.
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 06:54:48 PM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:47 pm"

I know I could top that, but I'm afraid that I'd end up in
a mental treatment facility if I actually figured out what I've spent on my car....
I know.....I've seen your photo album in person!
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 07:02:49 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:48 pm"
Dude you've got $21,520 in your damn car!!

p.s.
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 21 2006, 07:03:17 PM: I rented that garage that I restored it in for 2 1/2 years + utilities...
Now it sits in my carport under a cover - much cheaper. Way too
many parts to list. ...and I still can't roll a soda can under the front tires
....yet ! :evil;
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 21 2006, 07:05:34 PM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:03 pm"
...and I still can't roll a soda can under the front tires
....yet !
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Post by: Top Speed on February 21 2006, 07:11:48 PM: Its all or nothin....
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 07:55:10 PM: well fuck I dont even have a job and still owe 3 grand on my car so... I think I'm ahead of the game!
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 07:57:29 PM: oh cool I now have to get my fucknig car smogged.... Jesus Christ what am I going to do... I'm so fucked right now
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Post by: Top Speed on February 21 2006, 07:59:25 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:55 pm"
.. I think I'm ahead of the game!

lol, you keep that attitute up phil... you are just getting started~
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 21 2006, 08:18:02 PM: Phil, I'm not sure how specific CA smog is on an '87 GN, but
I can e-mail you a few tips direct.
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Post by: ledzeppac on February 21 2006, 09:11:02 PM: hey I'm down...
If I didnt have this problem going on now I wouldnt even worry about smog... but now.. I dont know

heres my email chris120@chapman.edu

Thanks Robert... I wish you lived next door to me
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 22 2006, 01:33:37 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:11 pm"
hey I'm down...
If I didnt have this problem going on now I wouldnt even worry about smog... but now.. I dont know

heres my email chris120@chapman.edu

Thanks Robert... I wish you lived next door to me

E-mail sent.
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Post by: 87natty on February 22 2006, 03:02:31 AM: Hey, kick one down this way Rob... I got smog in June.
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Post by: Recklessrob on February 22 2006, 12:36:44 PM: Sent...
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Post by: DCEPTCN on February 22 2006, 02:33:00 PM: Emissions laws are for pussies. :finga: Rob, Phil wishes you lived next door and played tea-time with him and Miss Polly Prissy Pants. How cute....

(http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/610/610_img_17.jpg)

Hey Tops Peed, I got your spread sheet....man that's difficult to look at.
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Post by: Top Speed on February 22 2006, 02:38:27 PM: Whats wrong Deception? Can't stand to look at all that money you have in that thang?
Title: Whats wrong with my car.
Post by: DCEPTCN on February 22 2006, 02:54:17 PM: Quote from: "Top Speed @ Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:38 pm"
Whats wrong Deception?
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Post by: Top Speed on February 22 2006, 03:46:53 PM: lol
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Post by: ledzeppac on March 02 2006, 07:25:32 PM: Sweet I dont like cam lobes on my number three exhaust!

Pulled valve covers, yup number three is done.

I'm gonna have Turbo Lou fix it as I cant do it myself....
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Post by: Recklessrob on March 03 2006, 01:04:36 AM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:25 pm"
Sweet I dont like cam lobes on my number three exhaust!

Pulled valve covers, yup number three is done.

I'm gonna have Turbo Lou fix it as I cant do it myself....

Has the cam been replaced ? There has been a problem with aftermarket cams
wiping #3 because the lifter bores are a little offset. Enough, that they prevent
the lifters from spinning, and they end up dragging across the cam.
A comp 206 would make an excellent replacement with no adverse effects.
They've since rectified the alignment issue. :supz:
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Post by: ledzeppac on March 03 2006, 03:14:16 AM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:04 pm"
Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:25 pm"
Sweet I dont like cam lobes on my number three exhaust!

Pulled valve covers, yup number three is done.

I'm gonna have Turbo Lou fix it as I cant do it myself....

Has the cam been replaced ? There has been a problem with aftermarket cams
wiping #3 because the lifter bores are a little offset. Enough, that they prevent
the lifters from spinning, and they end up dragging across the cam.
A comp 206 would make an excellent replacement with no adverse effects.
They've since rectified the alignment issue. :supz:

No its the stock cam... but I did replace the valve springs in the summer and I'm sure the seat pressure did the trick.... I do have a stock profile cam that Neal Steward bought for me... I think Wells makes it or Weller or something...

I think I am going to go with one of Lou's jsut so he can garantee the parts... as he said he can only garantee the labor with 'my" cam... I'll talk to him tomorrow...
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Post by: 87natty on March 03 2006, 03:45:39 AM: Good luck bud. What I'm worried about is where all them cam shavings went. You don't need pieces of cam floating around your oil system. I'd tear it all down, but that's just me. I have a daily driver too, but I wouldn't risk the new cam or motor. Good luck.
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Post by: ledzeppac on March 03 2006, 07:45:37 AM: I know me too and Lou stressed that also... so Lou's gonna drop the pan and check the bearings and whiles hes there redue the rear main seal... so we are hoping that since I change my oil every 3 that most of it got caught up in the oil filter and we are good to go.
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Post by: ledzeppac on March 03 2006, 05:44:41 PM: Car is at Lou's.... lets see how it goes
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Post by: Recklessrob on March 04 2006, 12:06:21 AM: I agree with you on letting Lou supply the cam. We use the
anology of "bringing your own meat to Mc Donalds".
Can you cook this for me ? Don't blame us if you get sick...
The most susceptable component is probably the turbo itself.
If debris got in there it won't last long. :mad:
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Post by: ledzeppac on March 04 2006, 01:59:34 AM: welll fuck I forgot about the turbo... thats a new unit too just about 3 months old.... if that thing goes bad I will be so fucking pissed.

And I did bring my own meat to Lou... He said lets just use the cam you have as it looks good.

I left it up to him... he made the choice.. ill live with it
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Post by: 87natty on March 04 2006, 06:26:21 PM: Ask him how big you can go and still pass the sniffer test.
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Post by: Recklessrob on March 05 2006, 01:15:22 AM: Ask Lou about checking the center section of your turbo, or what
his opinion is.