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Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 15 2009, 10:27:19 PM
So....

I'm dropping gear from 3.42 to 4.10. If the mph stays constant I'll be going threw the traps at about 6000 not accounting for tire growth. Tires are ET Street 26x11.5x15

I figure I can drop the 60's from 2.0 to 1.6 or so.

Rev limiter is @ 6199. The math comes out to 116.5mph.

Think I'll hit it?

Either way I think it's time for cam/springs/pushrods - so I can move the peak power up a bit in the revs.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: SuperSix on June 15 2009, 10:54:59 PM
Bravo. I've been drinking too much to understand the question, but I applaud you for even asking! Cmon guys!
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 15 2009, 11:33:15 PM
I have not been drinking enuf so my tactic would be to call Zap!

Think you will hit what?  1.6 short times, 116.5 mph, or the rev limiter....whi ch is what I think you will hit.

I think you need a decent tire and not those pos et streets...that is also what I think.

A taller tire with those 4.10s will be the ticket.  And a good pair of feet on both pedals.
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 16 2009, 12:50:57 AM
The limiter....I have about 200-300 rpm to work with on the big end.

The ET Streets come highly recommended by everyone. The ET radials don't appear to work on stick cars, and I didn't want to gamble with the $$$. ET Drags or any other slick would have worked, but it probably would have dead hooked at my current power level = broken stuff. The fastest M6 F-bodies claim you want almost one full rotation of spin coming out of the hole.

28" tall is out of the question - as it's to much tire and will bog the car coming out of the hole. These damn N/A cars don't make any torque.

Either way it'll be fun - now I'm just waiting for the parts to ship.

BTW Mark - my new toy is a 2000 Firebird Formula - LS1/T56.

I've done the research - hopefully it'll work.
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Recklessrob on June 16 2009, 01:40:48 AM
How about 3.73's ?
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: straycat990 on June 16 2009, 07:12:17 AM
What size shot of nitrous are you using?  100 to 150 seems to wake a LS1 up rather nicely.
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 16 2009, 07:56:27 AM
3.73's aren't enough gear - I'd have to kill the clutch to come out without bogging.

No spray. Just bolt on's for now, heads/cam later. I figure I should be able to squeeze 115mph or so out of it with bolton's.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2009, 10:41:38 AM
If it bogs 28" tires with a 4.10 gear, there is either something wrong with the mathematician, or it needs a new engine!
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 16 2009, 11:12:20 AM
I guess we'll just have to find out! Remember these LS1 slugs don't make a ton of torque like the Buick's do. Coupled with a 2.66 1st gear - it needs a lot of rear gear to get it moving.

I'll be happy with a low 12 the way it sits. Next year it'll get a cam/heads and then the combo should be optimal. That will let me rev it to 6600rpm and run 120+mph, which is were everyone seems to change to 28" tires.

Either way it should be fun.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2009, 11:54:17 AM
get the rpm before you dump the clutch...find out if that bulletproof clutch is.....
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 16 2009, 12:37:06 PM
I'm planning on starting at 4000rpm and working my way up! Clutch grabs like a mofo and is warrantied.

Just waiting on parts......
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Zap on June 16 2009, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: "nocooler @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:27 pm"
Mr. Wood WANTS tech questions..... .



No, you can't always get what you WANT
You can't always get what you WANT
You can't always get what you WANT
And if you try sometimes you find
You get what you need


 :rock:
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: SuperSix on June 16 2009, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Zap @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:45 am"
Quote from: "nocooler @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:27 pm"
Mr. Wood WANTS tech questions..... .

No, you can't always get what you WANT
You can't always get what you WANT
You can't always get what you WANT
And if you try sometimes you find
You get what you need
 :rock:


GREAT POST - WOULD READ AGAIN!!! !! THUMBS UP!
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Zap on June 16 2009, 03:41:57 PM
Go pet an alligator.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2009, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: "Zap @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:41 pm"
Go pet an alligator.


Are you implying he has a fetish? :rolleyes;
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Zap on June 16 2009, 05:35:54 PM
Badasses like myself never imply, we say what we mean and damn the consequences!
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2009, 05:57:04 PM
yep, Mothboy, you do wear the cloak!  Now, go buy a Vespa and leave us alone!  Do something to stimulate the economy other than generate electricity by friction.
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: gbsean on June 16 2009, 10:32:17 PM
you need a 250 amp alternator...t hat will cure all your problems
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 16 2009, 11:16:14 PM
If that car will not launch with 4.10 gears and 28" tires, a 250 amp alternator will prevent it from idling.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: straycat990 on June 17 2009, 03:07:23 AM
okay ..whats the inside joke on the 250 amp alt?
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: nocooler on June 17 2009, 01:40:27 PM
Looks like it'll be a couple more weeks before the rearend ships, wheels and tires are being shipped with it.

I've got line lock, motor mounts and a new y-pipe to install in the mean time. I should yank the front sway bar to get some weight transfer.

Hopefully I can gets some runs in early next month.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Top Speed on June 17 2009, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: "straycat990 @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:07 am"
okay ..whats the inside joke on the 250 amp alt?


If we tell you we have to kill you.   :cool;

Hint:  tbs.com
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: SuperSix on June 17 2009, 02:18:41 PM
I have the 200Amp upgrade on mine - does that make me a poser?
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Top Speed on June 17 2009, 03:40:17 PM
yep
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 17 2009, 04:29:35 PM
I have one, too...the price was right...but, paying a ridiculous amount for something bigger because someone told you that it would work miracles would make you something else :sad;
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Wrecked Em on June 17 2009, 09:10:13 PM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:18 pm"
I have the 200Amp upgrade on mine - does that make me a poser?


Guess that makes me a poser as well.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: TSM Girl on June 18 2009, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: "Wrecked Em @ June 17th 2009"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:18 pm"
I have the 200Amp upgrade on mine - does that make me a poser?


Guess that makes me a poser as well.




Yep!  :rofl;
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: 87natty on June 18 2009, 09:28:58 PM
Quote from: "straycat990 @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:07 pm"
okay ..whats the inside joke on the 250 amp alt?


Yeah what's up with this thing? I'm too lazy to search, anyone got Cliff Notes to this? I still rock the stock one, waiting for it to fail.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: ULYCYC on June 18 2009, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:28 pm"
Quote from: "straycat990 @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:07 pm"
okay ..whats the inside joke on the 250 amp alt?


Yeah what's up with this thing? I'm too lazy to search, anyone got Cliff Notes to this? I still rock the stock one, waiting for it to fail.


It's being pushed that we can't operate our cars anymore unless we upgrade to a 250 amp alternator. We have been duped for 22 years. Snake oil salesmen are taking over the community
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: 87natty on June 18 2009, 09:52:00 PM
Oh, fuck them.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: 87natty on June 18 2009, 10:41:25 PM
I will admit to buying some Kenne Bell parts when I first got my GN though.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: SuperSix on June 18 2009, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 pm"
I will admit to buying some Kenne Bell parts when I first got my GN though.


Fag
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: 87natty on June 18 2009, 10:49:15 PM
I deserved that one. :)
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: SuperSix on June 18 2009, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:49 pm"
I deserved that one. :)



Take it like a man, bitch :)
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 18 2009, 10:55:55 PM
we all bought kb parts...I coulda gone Nines if I had installed it all right.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: 87natty on June 18 2009, 11:04:56 PM
I only had enough cash for 11's.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Recklessrob on June 19 2009, 02:27:29 AM
Quote from: "87natty @ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 pm"
I will admit to buying some Kenne Bell parts when I first got my GN though.


I did the same as well. I probably still have a couple on my car. Mostly the little doodad stuff.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: ULYCYC on June 19 2009, 08:30:14 AM
KB had some good stuff. You just had to know what was real and not fantasy. Back then he fooled us all. His chrome MAF inlet pipe was the best ever made. It must have 50 layers of chrome plating on it. Still shines like a 57 Olds
front bumper. Now his water cooled up pipe came after licking too many LSD tabs.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 19 2009, 08:53:11 AM
I gave my water cooled pipe some some kid in Houston...unus ed...he was a happy camper.
Title: Re: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Wrecked Em on June 19 2009, 10:03:06 PM
I have the switch panel that fits in the ashtray opening. That is all.
Title: Mr. Wood wants tech questions......
Post by: Steve Wood on June 20 2009, 09:26:09 AM
I never did get the intercooler fan shroud to fit without touching fan.
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