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Title: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: gnonyx on January 13 2020, 05:09:56 PM
After doing a oil changed is when I started to smell like wire burning coming around underneath the powermaster.
 I think my powermaster finally went after being the original of having 90,000 miles.
 I was thinking of also doing the vacuum replacement but now I don't have to think, now I have an additional winter work load of doing the replacement. I do have a spare powermaster unit, but after reading many stories of not having brakes, I'm switching over to vacuum.
 I did notice looking underneath I have the original cast iron Disc Drum Proportioning Valve.
 If I'm replacing over to vacuum type do you think I should also replace the Disc Drum Proportioning Valve with the new type of being made of brass?
 Also I see many type of claiming to be equal as GM from USA made to China made
 Has anyone replace the Disc Drum Proportioning Valve, and id so which one and what type was your replacement?
 Thanks
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: Steve Wood on January 13 2020, 06:03:21 PM
Been a long time and I don't recall where I bought the two I changed, but I would definitely change it.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: daveismissing on January 13 2020, 07:11:18 PM
Looks like cardone sell a brass one,  13PV001 at the rock.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: reality on January 13 2020, 07:33:07 PM
A recall never expires. Go
to GM and they will change it.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: gnonyx on January 13 2020, 08:40:43 PM
Someone told the recall was for Canada only
Is there any recall notice publish?
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: earlbrown on January 13 2020, 09:14:08 PM
Quote from: reality
A recall never expires. Go
to GM and they will change it.

I've never heard that before. I was thinking there was X amount of time and that was it.

 Not that I'd let a GM tech touch my car, I still have a factory iron valve on my GM


and GNONYX I have a conversion kit I built for a guy that flaked.  Normal kit with SS braided lines and NOS Delco larger rear cylinders.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: reality on January 13 2020, 09:31:28 PM
While car recalls don't have an expiration date, they are only enforced for "reasonable periods," the agency says. Basically, a recall is over if a vehicle's manufacturer goes out of business, or if the parts needed to make the necessary repair are no longer being made.[/color]Jun 5, 2013
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: Steve Wood on January 13 2020, 10:55:52 PM
I never got a recall on my gn for the vslve
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: reality on January 14 2020, 09:28:55 AM
I never got a recall either but while I was at the dealer I asked about it and they changed it. Bastages spilled brake fluid all down the fender too.
1988 time frame tho.
Actually never got ANY recalls
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: gnonyx on January 14 2020, 10:16:57 AM
Knowing today's cars are using Synthetic products, and also are using Synthetic Hi-Temp DOT 3 Brake Fluid, is it okay for our TR to use this type of DOT 3  brake fluid, or use regular non-Synthetic DOT 3 Brake Fluid?
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: Scoobum on January 14 2020, 10:21:06 AM
I always threw the highest number in mine.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: Steve Wood on January 14 2020, 10:44:52 AM
Dot 3, Dot 4, and Dot 5.1 are all compatible and the term synthetic is probably misleading.  https://blog.amsoil.com/dot-3-and-dot-4-brake-fluid-whats-the-difference/ (https://blog.amsoil.com/dot-3-and-dot-4-brake-fluid-whats-the-difference/)

Never mix DOT 5 with any other type tho as it is silicone based and is never compatible with any other brake fluid. Don't confuse it with DOT 5.1

Generally, I use Dot 4.  Unless one is racing, it probably makes no difference and one would be better served by flushing all the fluid and replacing with new fluid every two years, imo
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: Scoobum on January 14 2020, 10:48:07 AM
Like Steve says...flush it. I was taught brake fluid will get moisture in it. When it gets old it'll heat up easier and cause brake fade.
Title: Re: Disc Drum Proportioning Valve 87' GN replacement
Post by: earlbrown on January 14 2020, 06:52:31 PM
The moisture in the brake fluid will boil.  When that happens, expansion in the hydraulic system starts up.

Steam is 1600 times bigger than water (and that's not a typo).
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