valve springs

[Be4u]

Using about four swivels makes it cake.

[Shimy87]

Well as my luck always goes, fire it up and it barely stumbles and my knock alarm is screaming.... quickly shut it off and get out. re-check plug wires to make sure they are right....they are. To frickin hot to piss around with it tonight...with my luck it dropped a valve somehow...I double checked every one to make sure I had the lock things in good.  Going to get up about 3 in the morning when its cool and tear the valve covers back off and see what shit storm is waiting   Should have just left well enough alone

[Steve Wood]

does not sound likely but have a look

[Shimy87]

if all valve springs are in order what else would cause this? I know, probably a million things but what would be the most likely things to check first?

[Shimy87]

pulled valve cover on pass side, I had the last/back push rod not seated in lifter so the valve was constantly open. I pulled out push rod and it had a very small bend. I straightened it out and reinstalled it. Started motor and it ran but it dosent idle smoothly, motor rocks, when I added some throttle it smoothed out but you could tell it has a slight miss. Do I need to replace that push rod? Went to re-start and it made a bad noise on first crank so I didn't start it. After work I'm going to pull both valve covers and plug wires and have wife crank it over so I can watch all valves to see if they are all moving correctly. Could just a slight bend in that one push rod be causing this wobbly idle and slight miss? If so can I just replace that one or do I need to do them all. Of could this have hurt something else?

Thanks for any help!!

[Shimy87]

pulled covers and had wife spin it over, all valves seem to be operating properly. The push rod that got bend I got 99% straight, could that still be the issue?

[larrym]

Yes

[Shimy87]

Replace all or just that one

[Steve Wood]

Sounds like the valve that was held open hit the piston and bent the face of the valve so the valve no longer seals and that cylinder will now fire weakly causing a miss.

If a pushrod  will not roll across a piece of plate glass, or any flat surface, without a sign of a wobble, it is too bent to be re-used.  I have never seen a bent push rod straightened enough to work properly for very long.

Now, one has to hope the pushrod bent before the base of the lifter and the cam lobe were damaged by the impacts of a lifter that was no longer hydraulic when the pushrod was sitting on the lifter edge.

You are going to have to pull the intake, remove the head, and get the valve replaced, and a valve job at the minimum; I think.

[Shimy87]

That's awesome, so glad I decided to change these springs    When I get home I'll pull the rockers assembly and put some air to that cylinder to check for leaking but I'm sure your right and I bent that fricking valve. Stupid SOB, so pissed at myself!!!! What's the best head gasket to get? Of course its the passenger side so everything is so easy to get to. Did I mention how pissed I am at myself.

[Steve Wood]

I guess we did not tell you to double check such things....

[Shimy87]

live and learn, I just always learn the hard way 

Is a Victor Reinz 3797 a good head gasket to get?

[Steve Wood]

That is the same as the factory hg and it would be my choice

[Shimy87]

Thanks Steve!!

[gusszgs]

Pretty sure that's what Rich used (Texas T) and had good luck with it.