IHADAV8.com - Turbo Buick Tech, and Nonsense
General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: Gary Wells on June 06 2005, 01:54:52 PM
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The Bates Nut farm car show yesterday had the best turnout for a local BGNRA sponsored car show that I have seen for years. Steve Hurst, his wife, staff, Doug Frasure, and friends from the SoCal Grand Sports did an excellent job of organization and putting on the show. 1 real GNX, a lot of turbo buicks, about a 27 or so beautiful fully restored Buick coupe, at least 2 stage cars, and a beautiful fully restored & modified blown '40 Willys coupe were there. Some really outstanding early Buick iron there also.I took first place in '86-'87 stock t-types but I think that I did not have very many other cars for competition. Mike Barnard, (spoolfool2) off of Turbo buick.com was there and took second place in modified '86-'87 GN, beaten only by Don Wangs outstanding, beautufil and flawless highly modified '87 race GN. Some very exceptional Buick Turbo cars were there. About time that my Buick got up offo of it's arse and did something worthwhile. A lot of complients on my car, and a few non-believers on the fact that it still had it's original paint. Everybody had a great time. Although there's other Buick fun events such as the clan getting together at the Fontana drags, my hats off to the BGNRA in general and in particular to Steve Hurst, his wife, and all of the people of the SoCal Gran Sports for their assistance in making this happen. Met some really great people, too, as always. It was unfortunate that more of the local Buick turbo & Grand Sport clan could not make it.
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Congrats on first in your category!
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Congradulation s Gary.
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Thanks, everybody.
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You still suck because you're car is better than mine. :mad:
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You still suck because you're car is better than mine.
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Good job Gary! Stick one to Steve Hurst!
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Good job Gary! Stick one to Steve Hurst!
:werd:
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I know that some of you guys have had some differences with Steve Hurst, but I support Steve Hurst and the BGNRA for several reasons.
The BGNRA and Steve Hurst sponsor and host the only Buick oriented car show that I am aware of on, at least, the west cost, and maybe anywhere. He is dedicated and loyal to the Buick cause, if there is such a thing. He and his wife dedicate a lot of their own personal time to keeping things together. Anybody that likes Buicks, especially the turbo Buicks, can't be all that bad. well, except for Broke 1, who badmouths everybody and everything. This Buick thing seems to be falling apart or losing ground and favortisim somewhat and I really hate to see this happen. New people coming into the sport, so to speak, either go into the small car movement, or go somewhere, but there are less turbo Buicks than there were a few years back. old farts like me die off and no one comes along to take out place. We are definitely a minority, which is sort of ok due to the elite thing, but too much of a minority and things die off. The Buick community is getting smaller all of the time, and we need to try and keep this from happening, even if it means that we get along with someone that we don't particular care for. Buick people are Buick people. Period.
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Yup! Thats definately a good way to look at it, and
congradulation s ! :supz:
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The Buick community has grown so small that it seems to be the only choice for me.
The recent death through suicide of a close friend of mine, and my mechanic for about the last 10 years has made me realize that the Buick community is shrinking, that life, whether yours, that of a spouse or family member, friend or even foe is a very precious thing, and should not be taken for granted.
Thanks, Rob.
Only sort of a token win due to the size of my class, but a win never the less.
I hope that everybody through the Buick community and their family is in good health and spirits.
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Gary what the hell are you doing up this early? What the hell am I doing up this early? I can't sleep, so I'll post until I pass out. You're right, we should stay close knit, but what happened with Sylvan and Hurst happened to a couple of other guys too. Oh well, that said, I've never met the guy, so I'll stay quiet.
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Steve Hurst was a total jagoff toward me and all I wanted was my money's worth. So, a couple of newsletters that never made it to me snowballed into a nasty argument. I maintain that I was the blameless one as I'm sure he would say of himself. Fuck it. That said, I respect Steve Hurst merely for being a Buick guy- that's worth a lot. I love these cars so much that, no matter how many times my POS blows up in my face, I'm still here the next morning waving the flag. I was not an 'internet guy' until about 2 years ago, so I always felt like the only person on Earth who knew these things existed....hav ing found the forums and a few really cool shits (and drank with them) I am very appreciative of the group. I don't think that Steve Hurst is a bad guy, I just had a bad experience with him. Would I counsel another person against joining the BGNRA? No.
Fuck it, it's all about the Buicks.
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FWIW & IMHO:
Takes a person of good heart and strong moral character, Sylvan, to not bear a grudge after everythings said and done regarding what you guys went through. My hats off to you, dude. 1st beers are on me when we make it back to vegas this year.
I am sure that if Steve Hurst were asked regarding this past issue, he would feel the same way. His really is a thankless job & he does promote the Buick community as best he can.
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FWIW & IMHO:
Takes a person of good heart and strong moral character, Sylvan, to not bear a grudge after everythings said and done regarding what you guys went through. My hats off to you, dude. 1st beers are on me when we make it back to vegas this year.
I am sure that if Steve Hurst were asked regarding this past issue, he would feel the same way. His really is a thankless job & he does promote the Buick community as best he can.
It really does seem like he's a nice guy who does a good job. In retrospect, the whole argument is kinda funny.
That first beer in Vegas is gonna be one of the best beers of my life. I can't fckn' wait!
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Gary,
I appreciate what you are saying. I have no real opinion of Steve. I was a member of BGNRA for a few years. I approached Steve about doing a cruise out to lunch and he said NO without even asking the membership to see if they wanted to or not.
Then, when I was road racing my GN, I rented out Willow Springs, I asked him to post in the newsletter that I would be at the track and anyone wanting to try their Buick on a track or just wanted to come out should. It would be fun! He then told me that maybe I should rent a drag strip instead!
It was at that point that I realized we were on two different sheets of music with respect to these cars. I have attended only one car show and that was when it was at the winery. I won't go into too much detail, but that was the only one I have been to and have no desire to go back.
I agree that Steve pours his heart and soul into the Buick scene, I just wish he would take more input from the membership to make it a better club for all. Hell, I too would like to go out and hang with the community, but we just are not that organized.
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Sweet, the Racer himself is here.
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:D Yeah, I thought I would see what this place was all about! :atbeer:
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Greg (RacerX):
Good to hear from you, dude. I know exactly how you feel in regards to what you mentioned, as I had exactly the same experiences with exactly the same results. And over the same type of questions/suggestions, I might add. I have never been a member, but I do support them as much as possible. I do enjoy the Buick car shows, and the quantity of Buick oriented car shows that allow late model cars such as the GNs, T-Types, Turbo-Ts, GNXs, TTAs is getting smaller it seems. Even if you delete the Buick oriented part there are still very few car shows that allow our cars in. It seems almost impossible to get more than a few of the turbo Buick and Pontiac together at any one time. We have tried. We just flatly enjoy arguing and discerning to much. As a consequence, I strongly support steve Hurst as he is a Buick person, he's president of the BGNRA, he and his wife donate a lot of their free time for the bernefit of everybody Buick related. Without Steve, there probably would not be a "Bates Nut Farm" annual show every year, and there may not even be a BGNRA club without him. When's the last time that you heard of somebody standing up and volunteering for that job? Without Steve and the BGNRA, the turbo Buicks may not be invited by Socal Grand Sports to the Westminister show every year also. I respect your input & judgement, but I have to admit that I am a "Show slut" and I go through withdrawl symptons if I don't see a turbo Buick every so often. Happens when you get old, dude. I have no better excuse.
Good to hear from you again, and definitely a very warm welcome to the board. Hope that your stay is long and pleasant. Still haven't done my damn suspension yet.
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Hit me up Gary, I'd be willing to go up North to help you with some R&R work.
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Hit me up Gary, I'd be willing to go up North to help you with some R&R work.
Hey, dude, it's 3 am in the fckng am, what are you talking about. that went completely over my head.
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Hi Gary,
I understand that Steve and Richelle put in a ton of time and that needs to be acknowledged. I just wish he would take some help from others. I have had this discussion with many others in the BGNRA. The newsletter needs to be more than a 30 times copied over stapled together mailer.
I think the real problem is that way back when the BGNRA had a stronger membership and people offered up suggestions and they were rebuffed by Steve, those folks simply left and took their enthusiasm and ideas with them.
There is no doubt in mind, that at this juncture without Steve and Richelle the BGNRA would cease to exist, but is that really a good thing?
As you know, I am not much for car shows, but it would be cool to have a cruise in some where once in a while other than to a drag strip. We used to do this with the Impala SS club I used to belong to. It was a blast!
I went on to form a car club of a different sort and we do a lot of stuff that is different and fun just to hang out.
Good talking to you Gary, I may just stick around here a while! :D