At least he wasn't a child molester asking you to "use his (down)pipe".
Oh... that reminds me I need to go get vindication on Gbodyforum.com for the fact they went all vendor-protector on his behalf a few months ago.
funny how some can judge, WITHOUT any facts,
burned regal? some doubt about what caused that? or were you there?
I'm not siding with anyone, just prefer to NOT show my ignorance by judging before the facts are in.
come on........ tell how you really feel!
are you clay's bitch? or just enjoy his "tools"?
you have an opinion, and I have an opinion, pretty obvious there different,
your opinion causes you to be upset, pissed off, etc,
NOT ME!
Deep breath, Mark! LOL You are simply biased by reality
I guess I came late to the buick scene. Don't know anything about tools and downpipes.
I am in awe of the responses for and against this fella and the emotion that it is stirring
funny how some can judge, WITHOUT any facts,
burned regal? some doubt about what caused that? or were you there?
I'm not siding with anyone, just prefer to NOT show my ignorance by judging before the facts are in.
I have more respect for a man who lets me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil.
Ooops! https://gbodyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54688 (https://gbodyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54688)
At least the Admin admits that he is vendor-biased.
Shark has been jumped.
maybe it had 20,000 worth of loot in it? :rofl:
its painfully obvious some of you are so biased, and just plain jealous of Gbody,
that is your option, but to promote this in a public forum, isn't the smartest thing to do.
we all have opinions, and "freedom of speech" allows all of us to voice that opinion. (to a point)
I'm just glad I don't have to be around you. as it must be pretty miserable!
I've stated my experiences with G Body (all good) but some of you just will not let it go!
your actions here pretty much shows your mentality, and mind set.
wrong answer, :rofl:
I have an excellent business relationship with ALL turbo buick vendors.i
been around a long time, and do not know any more than the next guy, (actually registered long before any of you did!)
but ...... I do not accept BS,lies, accusations, by people who sometimes cannot find their ass with either hand.
if you know the FACTS about gbody, then you know the accuser could be in error, and was instigated by someone who DID have a grudge with G Body.
I read alot, and try NOT to stir the pot, unless its burning.
When a shop owner burns a customers car while welding on it in his shop, what could possibly be the customer's fault? :rolleyes;
From a PR and business standpoint...B rian should have replaced Clays car...but I'm prolly not making any sense.
When a shop owner burns a customers car while welding on it in his shop, what could possibly be the customer's fault? :rolleyes;
Not sure. Your situation never got the attention that the ZL1 or the recent Subaru fiascos have gotten. But I imagine it's all centered around insurance and what they will and/or will not cover.
Just from what I've read about your case a couple of things come to mind.
One, OSHA requirements for hot work are pretty clear regarding the requirements for performing hot work (welding, cutting, grinding, brazing, soldering, etc.) within 35 feet of combustible material, as well as the requirement for a fire watch with a fire watch having to remain in the area for up to 30 minutes after work has been completed to monitor for fires.
Two, you probably shouldn't have been in the shop to begin with. I imagine their insurance probably says no customers in the shop where work is being done...but I could be wrong.
I really doubt this applies to Bethel NC. I bet they still have a horse drawn fire engine.I LOL'd.
When a shop owner burns a customers car while welding on it in his shop, what could possibly be the customer's fault? :rolleyes;
Not sure. Your situation never got the attention that the ZL1 or the recent Subaru fiascos have gotten. But I imagine it's all centered around insurance and what they will and/or will not cover.
Just from what I've read about your case a couple of things come to mind.
One, OSHA requirements for hot work are pretty clear regarding the requirements for performing hot work (welding, cutting, grinding, brazing, soldering, etc.) within 35 feet of combustible material, as well as the requirement for a fire watch with a fire watch having to remain in the area for up to 30 minutes after work has been completed to monitor for fires.
Two, you probably shouldn't have been in the shop to begin with. I imagine their insurance probably says no customers in the shop where work is being done...but I could be wrong.
I won't comment on the situation between Clay and Brian but OSHA has nothing to do with accidents in small private shops under 10 employees. Your rules apply to ship yards and large employers. Also the accident must be loss of life or limb and not property loss. Now local or state may have laws that fire or building dept's set rules and do inspections. I really doubt this applies to Bethel NC. I bet they still have a horse drawn fire engine.
But Brian is self employed (LLC) and exempt. If for some small loophole and he falls into a required category to report something it will fall on deaf ears. I was also in the business and liaison for one of the largest fleets in the country. OSHA is a joke.
I remember employees trying to get them involved and only getting the runaround. It needs to be big impact stories that will get them promotions. Coal mine disasters or events on that level will get them to respond. It's a major event for Clay and Brian but a chipped nail for govt intervention.
But Brian is self employed (LLC) and exempt. If for some small loophole and he falls into a required category to report something it will fall on deaf ears. I was also in the business and liaison for one of the largest fleets in the country. OSHA is a joke.
I remember employees trying to get them involved and only getting the runaround. It needs to be big impact stories that will get them promotions. Coal mine disasters or events on that level will get them to respond. It's a major event for Clay and Brian but a chipped nail for govt intervention.