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New lifter questions
« on: December 10 2011, 06:45:02 PM »
I got the 969 lifters from Full Throttle. I noticed that I cannot depress 2 of the 16. Should I be able to?

Should lifters be soaked in oil prior to installing them?
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #1 on: December 10 2011, 09:16:45 PM »
Before you do anything else take the plunger out and dump the solvent out of them. No, I'm not kidding. I was tought this by an old machinist and every hydrolic lifter I've ever checked has had solvent in it.
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #2 on: December 10 2011, 11:02:55 PM »
yes, you should...take them apart and clean the crud out of them...you can soak them if you wish but they should fill up immediately anyway
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #3 on: December 11 2011, 05:08:52 AM »
They'll fill when you prime the engine...and I prime an engine until the oil drips from the rockers.
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #4 on: December 11 2011, 08:18:42 AM »
Sheesh.. i have to take them apart? I assume the spring on the top is what holds the guts in. Once disassembled - soak on some sort of cleaner, then rinse and reassemble?
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #5 on: December 11 2011, 09:51:06 AM »
I would dip the pieces in oil after cleaning to prevent any rust-sounds like the stuff coming out of China


TA Performance is advertising US built lifters these days....I would have probably gone with these   http://www.taperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TA_V1405


Sorry if I said otherwise sometime earlier
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #6 on: December 11 2011, 09:54:05 AM »
I throw EOS at everything...b ut that's just me.
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #7 on: December 11 2011, 10:00:55 AM »
I would not put straight eos inside the lifter for fear it might block the metering a bit=might be an ol wives' fear
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #8 on: December 11 2011, 10:38:49 AM »
Well shit. I doubt I can return these now. I will disassemble them, soak them in solvent, then oil, and reassemble..
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #9 on: December 11 2011, 11:32:13 AM »
So I went to the garage and took apart the lifters I couldn't compress - and shockingly, they were filled with SOLVENT. (Good call as always, Charlie) Looked like oil, smelled like solvent. So all are going to be disassembled, cleaned, oiled, and put back together.

i was curious of how the lifters I was replacing worked/looked, so I killed on and took it apart (My snap ring pliers failed me)

I don't know what make/brand they are, I have to assume that since the old cam came from Poston's, that these lifters came from there too.

Left side is the Sealed Power HT969, right is the old model.


I inverted the pushrod cup in this pic:


Pic of the bodies, Ht969 still on left (obviously by the wear)
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #10 on: December 11 2011, 01:20:15 PM »
I take a small socket and a vise to squish the lifters that don't move. Thick goo will spurt out and everything seems to be fine after that.
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #11 on: December 11 2011, 06:22:05 PM »
I take a small socket and a vise to squish the lifters that don't move. Thick goo will spurt out and everything seems to be fine after that.

I can see that you use them like your girlfriends then Earl. :add_wegbrech:
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #12 on: December 11 2011, 10:09:09 PM »
The old lifter appears to have the hardened bottom like the GM lifters.
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Re: New lifter questions
« Reply #13 on: December 12 2011, 01:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Charlief1

I can see that you use them like your girlfriends then Earl. :add_wegbrech:

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