IHADAV8.com - Turbo Buick Tech, and Nonsense
General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: daveismissing on February 16 2018, 02:41:45 PM
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http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/gee-m-finland-304-stainless-headers-for-1986-87-buick-gn-t-type-street-3b-t3-t4-more.html (http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/gee-m-finland-304-stainless-headers-for-1986-87-buick-gn-t-type-street-3b-t3-t4-more.html)
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Those do look nice but I would still prefer mandrel bent ones!
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Probably a sexy price too
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Probably a sexy price too
Works out to only $1700 cdn!
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Oh hell that's cheap.......en ough money left over for a spare set :rolleyes;
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Get cha sum there Jim. If they were in the KenneBell catalog they'd be worth at least 2 tenths in the quarter mile. That much closer to a ten sec slip. And they are sexy. Haha
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All sarcastic remarks aside. Count your blessings anyone is still developing parts for these things.
Your options are status quo stock parts and Winter bitch sessions, hated cheap Chinese parts, expensive American parts, or an LS-swap.
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Now that we have vendors competing by offering different choices for engine management and "tune" it should get more interesting. I can't afford any of them but I'll watch. :)
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When it comes to these cars competition is not a good thing. The market is just too small.
I wish it weren't true but it is.
With access to a foundry and a CNC machine shop, I've got all kinds of cool shit that could be built.
Before I could get my piston project off the ground and get the price as low as possible, too many people jumped on the wagon to divide up the market. I lost interest pretty quickly. Now I make just enough to keep my WD discount.
Much like my USA made timing cover project. To much division for me to bother finishing all the work and money to make a cover with my mods already in them (and a few other upgrades I can't do with a NOS unit). Looking back I kinda wished I'd done it anyway, but I'm not going to compete with the magic pixie dust that people think T/A parts are sprinkled with. The market is just too small.
And getting smaller everyday
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If the magical pixie dust ones can garner $500+shipping and still need the mods you should be able to get more for a unit that has the mods built in. Labor is by far the most expensive part of any money making endeavor these days. I guess people don't really even know what they are buying a lot of the times. This is evidenced by all the chinesium sold here in the states . When price is the only or most important criteria, you are bound to get disappointing results.
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When it comes to these cars competition is not a good thing.....
Earl, how about some DOHC heads for the Buick? Then again, I guess we can stroke a twin turbo 3.6.
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LOL. I have the technology to make them.... ....but holy friggin crap, Batman at the costs!!!! (not to mention the drive arrangement!)
For example, on the timing covers... Even doing it on the cheep cheep, my cost would be more than the Jegs or Summitt, or Silver Seal would be willing to pay for a bulk 'make next to nothing, but do it in bulk' thing. So that means that I couldn't suck it up, make a big first run then recoup most with a large order from the big guys for bare castings, then offer hand built complete stuff to the Buick guys.
Real life would have me lay out thousands for a minimum of 200 bare castings (that I would have to make room for at my house). Then I would have to finish my print, test a few on the CNC and hope to dog they pass with no raw casting where machine surfaces should be. THEN I could get a price break to to the rest of the batch (all out of pocket) while I start getting emails saying ''why should I buy yours when blah-blah says I will gain 2 tenths and 2MPH or get a BJ every time I use their cover.....
I would love to have this off the ground, but honestly the numbers just don't jibe.
That doesn't include the cast plenums, valve covers, trans pans, oil pans, and pretty sweet spacers/plenums with built in akly distribution systems.
I have prints and stuff and things in my head that are badass but I can't compete with the chinese/walmart ''performance'' parts if I have to put my real money on the line.
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Ok, so 2 weeks? :D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhHjACjJjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhHjACjJjA)
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http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/gee-m-finland-304-stainless-headers-for-1986-87-buick-gn-t-type-street-3b-t3-t4-more.html (http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/gee-m-finland-304-stainless-headers-for-1986-87-buick-gn-t-type-street-3b-t3-t4-more.html)
Wow, What a FB sh*tstorm that header business has started...
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Please share! Some of us don't do FB.
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Wow, What a FB sh*tstorm that header business has started...
X3 :O
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TOO PRICY I find!!
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I agree. I could see spending money on them if they added power or knocked off a bunch of weight or got me more road head.
But, years ago I added a gusset to my ceramic coated stockers (which actually showed faster CCs with no other changes) and I was out of the ''worry about my headers'' bidness.
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High priced headers won't gain ya' dick all. 7 flat all day at 100 without even trying on stock junk. XFI and all the other cool guy crap makes me giggle.
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But, the stock headers are cheap stainless, MIG welded and not back purged, small tube and poorly designed. They cannot possibly work, right?
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Define ''WORK'' please.