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Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 03 2014, 09:55:23 PM
Forum's slow so I figured I'd talk about my firechicken.

I've been fighting to get this car to hook for sometime. It'd go 1.5's but not consistently and it should go easy 1.4's. I thought it was due to the mass of the new twin disc, then wondered if the slicks were toast, then started thinking about the rear shocks.

So today I tore the drivers shock out - it's a QA1 Gen F 24 way double adjustable. Both compression and rebound adjusted fine. Put it back on and checked the suspension how much drop I had and found this


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 03 2014, 09:58:15 PM
I guess I should explain - it's got 1.25" of extension - not nearly enough for a stick shift car.

Damn thing has been topping out the shocks and unloading - or at least that's what I'm hoping.

Did get a good pass in last week. Faceplated T56 ftw!

http://youtu.be/INxMTMPUTMo?list=UUgPl5n0VjubnUfBu65BQE9Q (http://youtu.be/INxMTMPUTMo?list=UUgPl5n0VjubnUfBu65BQE9Q)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 03 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Here is what a McLeod RXT twin disc clutch looks like - and a QTP bellhousing to save my feet
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 10:29:33 AM
Nailed him on the tree...nice work! Care to let us in on the complete engine build?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 10:53:43 AM
It's a pretty simple setup


Stock bottom end LS1
Patriot CNC'd LS6 heads with dual springs
231/237 .589./595 112 LSA cam
Fast 78mm intake/Throttle body
36lb GM ASA injectors
Lid/Fasttoys Ramair
Ebay headers, ypipe
Magnaflow catback with cutout
Nitrous Outlet plate - usually hit it with 100 or 150 - not spraying in the video.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 10:57:16 AM
Aftermarket fuel management system?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 10:57:57 AM
Stock PCM tuned by me with HPTuners  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 11:01:28 AM
Stock PCM. I'm liking this. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Differential/driveshaft/transmission upgrades?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 11:16:47 AM
I always admire that brings a stick to an auto fight!  Car runs really well :cheers:

Brad, you ought build one of these....be like a bike with 4 wheels :)  You can shortcut the process because he has learned a lot as to what works and what does not.

He has been playing with this one for a few years now.  He got sidetracked for awhile recovering from his accident but he seems to be going full bore now.  I really like the car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 11:23:15 AM
I always admire that brings a stick to an auto fight!  Car runs really well :cheers:

Brad, you ought build one of these....be like a bike with 4 wheels :)  You can shortcut the process because he has learned a lot as to what works and what does not.

He has been playing with this one for a few years now.  He got sidetracked for awhile recovering from his accident but he seems to be going full bore now.  I really like the car.

I have my R1 and my 85 IROC up for sale. I bookmarked HPTuners...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 11:32:35 AM
Jeremy, what have you done to make the tranny survive?  Does not sound like you are taking it easy on the shifts.  I always had a bad habit of not letting off the gas and not using the clutch very much...some of these new trannies don't hold up to what I would consider normal racing...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 11:34:30 AM
I always admire that brings a stick to an auto fight!  Car runs really well :cheers:

Brad, you ought build one of these....be like a bike with 4 wheels :)  You can shortcut the process because he has learned a lot as to what works and what does not.

He has been playing with this one for a few years now.  He got sidetracked for awhile recovering from his accident but he seems to be going full bore now.  I really like the car.

I don't know anything about it, but, several of my friends down in Houston use it and like it.

I have my R1 and my 85 IROC up for sale. I bookmarked HPTuners...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 11:46:12 AM
120 mph...it comes on on top end! 100 hp shot must turn it into a beast
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 12:52:05 PM
Trans was built buy liberty gears here in MI. It's faceplated and has a viper mainshaft. All parts were heat treated and shot peened.


With it being faceplated the box is un-synchronized 1st thru 4th. It still needs you to clutch it but only enough to get it out of gear and then you slam it into the the next @ WOT. It's clunky and loud around town, but with some double clutching and practice most people wouldn't even notice.


The rear is a Midwest Chassis (MWC) fab 9" w/4.56 gears and a tru-trac diff, 31 spline axles. ABS still functions. It's got MWC's short torque arm, spoon's antiroll bar, umi lower control arms, and a 3.5" PST Aluminum driveshaft.


QA1 single adjustable coil overs out front and double adjustable out back.


100 shot it's been 130mph - 150shot, 132mph. Best et with the T56 is like a 10.6@131.


I've been fighting a traction issue this year with the new twin disc clutch. It hits the tires harder do to more mass and it's instant burnout if I go WOT on the 2-step and dump the clutch. I've tried everything shock settings, suspension mount points and tire pressure. I even put the 4.56 gears back in the thing from the 4.11's.


I think I found the issue - being the shocks don't have enough travel on extension.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 01:01:15 PM
I'm assuming you're referring to the front shocks not being able to extend far enuf on launch...and therefore not transferring enuf weight to the rear tires to plant them harder.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 01:14:50 PM
Rear shocks - they only have 1.25" of extension from ride height - not enough time to control the hit. So they top out and unload
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2014, 01:24:52 PM
Gotcha.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 01:59:52 PM
So the rear rises and pulled the axles up?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 02:13:46 PM
It hits the tires and tries to drive them into the ground. But there is only 1.25" of shock travel downward. The shock hits full extension, bounces and then unloads the tires.


http://youtu.be/oiTEdwbWxj8?list=UUgPl5n0VjubnUfBu65BQE9Q (http://youtu.be/oiTEdwbWxj8?list=UUgPl5n0VjubnUfBu65BQE9Q)


I haven't been able to play with it as much as I'd like. I had a reaction to a pain med (lyrica) that put me in a very depressed state. I had to take a couple months off to get myself back on track. I'm about out of options for pain management. Just narcotics and medical marijuana.


Car had a 4l80e in it last year with a ptc 10" converter. It trapped lower and wasn't fun. And 4l80's aren't as strong as everyone on the internet claims. No way do they live with the transgo hd2 kit above 500hp. Mine melted the 3rd gear clutch pack and I decided to go back to a stick since it's more fun.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 02:17:36 PM
I should mention this is pretty much a full weight car with A/C. Just the back seat removed, since it's not usable with the roll bar anyways.


If I had to guess it's probably 36xx with me in it.


There is weight reduction planned but they are wallet mods, with a 2.5 year old son and another on the way I try to be a little more tight with my money.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Sorry to hear that you are still having that kinda pain.  This has been a long, rough haul.

That sounds like the shock cannot compress enough to me
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2014, 02:39:31 PM
Yes it has Steve - it sucks but it's better than the alternative.

If I loosen the compression it just bounces the tire worse.

The suspension isn't working like it should - we'll see if I'm right in a week or so. Even with the extension full tight it can't slow the tire down enough to hook from a full on dump. Giving it a couple more inches of extension should help the shock. These shocks are too short imo unless the car is lowered. The other shocks on the market, strange, afco, viking have more travel. It's stupid to have like 11" of compression travel and just over an inch of extension travel.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2014, 02:53:45 PM
that is strange
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 05 2014, 11:03:24 AM
Any interest in how I hacked a chromebook into my tuning laptop?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 05 2014, 11:09:43 AM
Any interest in how I hacked a chromebook into my tuning laptop?

God hates a coward...so I'll ask the stupid question. What's a chromebook?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 05 2014, 11:25:26 AM
LOL..I answered this in my answer to your PM...but Jeremy will explain better than me...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 05 2014, 11:25:51 AM
and, yes, tell us what you did to make it work....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 05 2014, 11:30:50 AM
LOL..I answered this in my answer to your PM...but Jeremy will explain better than me...

Android. That's like R2D2 or C3P0 from Star Wars...right? :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 05 2014, 12:05:10 PM
Chromebooks run ChromeOS - it's not android but a close.

The a particular chromebook I bought has a haswell celeron (x86) cpu not an ARM cpu like cell phones.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-C720-Chromebook-11-6-Inch-2GB/dp/B00FNPD1VW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524813&sr=8-1&keywords=c720 (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-C720-Chromebook-11-6-Inch-2GB/dp/B00FNPD1VW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524813&sr=8-1&keywords=c720)

I changed the 16gb ssd for one of these (warranty void) - http://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Cache-Solid-State/dp/B00EZ2E8NO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524837&sr=8-2&keywords=m2+ssd (http://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Cache-Solid-State/dp/B00EZ2E8NO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524837&sr=8-2&keywords=m2+ssd)

Reinstall chromeos - enable developer mode - enable legacy boot - reboot and install ubuntu :)

Linux has doesn't use a lot of ram so the 2gb is more than enough. After ubuntu was installed I installed vmware player and then created a XP virtual machine and pass thru the usb hptuners device to the virtual machine.

This little laptop is pretty amazing. 6 hours + of battery life and weights/cost nothing. I drop it who cares right.

Ubuntu needs some drivers injected in the kernel for the touchpad and sound but other than that everything is straight forward.

Hell this thing even runs games on linux pretty well. I've tested CS:GO (40fps) and Xcom:Enemy Unknown on it and they were both playable.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on October 05 2014, 04:27:56 PM
Chromebooks run ChromeOS - it's not android but a close.

The a particular chromebook I bought has a haswell celeron (x86) cpu not an ARM cpu like cell phones.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-C720-Chromebook-11-6-Inch-2GB/dp/B00FNPD1VW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524813&sr=8-1&keywords=c720 (http://www.amazon.com/Acer-C720-Chromebook-11-6-Inch-2GB/dp/B00FNPD1VW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524813&sr=8-1&keywords=c720)

I changed the 16gb ssd for one of these (warranty void) - http://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Cache-Solid-State/dp/B00EZ2E8NO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524837&sr=8-2&keywords=m2+ssd (http://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Cache-Solid-State/dp/B00EZ2E8NO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412524837&sr=8-2&keywords=m2+ssd)

Reinstall chromeos - enable developer mode - enable legacy boot - reboot and install ubuntu :)

Linux has doesn't use a lot of ram so the 2gb is more than enough. After ubuntu was installed I installed vmware player and then created a XP virtual machine and pass thru the usb hptuners device to the virtual machine.

This little laptop is pretty amazing. 6 hours + of battery life and weights/cost nothing. I drop it who cares right.

Ubuntu needs some drivers injected in the kernel for the touchpad and sound but other than that everything is straight forward.

Hell this thing even runs games on linux pretty well. I've tested CS:GO (40fps) and Xcom:Enemy Unknown on it and they were both playable.


So, are you willing to give me some pointers on how I can get an old laptop up an runnign to run my directscan soft ware. Of course it needs to be cheap.

I have a compaq presario. It came with windows 98. I'm not sure what it has on it now(I think a buddy upgraded it to windows2000 in the early 2000s. I was going to see if I could find a ssd hard drive and load a copy of windows xp, probably by reflect like I did ion my current setup. If this is even remotely possible I will start a new thread so I can have some direction.

I looked at the vid but it seems to skip about the time the car launches so I cant really see anything. Maybe some less tire pressure to absorb some launch shock. It looks like there is quite a bit of sidewall, maybe just a pound or three, one at a time to see if it makes a difference. The shocks sound like they wont work. Need to get the correct length so it has a more equal compress and extend.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 05 2014, 05:34:38 PM
Never used DS - I believe it takes a com port. I don't know the requirements it might run on dos. With that laptop being that old it won't have a sata port for the ssd. Battery is probably toast too.  I'd look for a Dell Latitude D630 on ebay - they are new enough to be usefull and still have a com port in them. Parts are cheap and they'll take ssd drives.

Tire pressure has been down to 10psi and it doesn't help - I'm sure correcting the shocks travel with fix it. Then I'll have to start tightening up the fronts to keep the wheelies under control. Car went consistent high 1.4's low 1.5's with the other clutch. This twin disc is just brutal. I'll get it figured out and then it'll be on to make it faster again :)


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 05 2014, 05:39:24 PM
I had Direct Scan...and it works on DOS.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 05 2014, 07:34:36 PM
Download freedos and be done with it then
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 06 2014, 08:00:06 AM
Direct scan uses the printer port I believe.
If memory serves me correctly there was a patch that let the older applications directly access the ports (as was common in w98) and I "think" it worked for w2000

directIO (eye-oh) it was called....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 06 2014, 08:24:44 AM
this might be it   http://www.direct-io.com/ (http://www.direct-io.com/)

Sorry to hijack the thread Jeremy
That was the the yellow car that had a peg-leg?
 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 06 2014, 06:04:21 PM
this might be it   http://www.direct-io.com/ (http://www.direct-io.com/)

Sorry to hijack the thread Jeremy
That was the the yellow car that had a peg-leg?
 


The dual fan setup and diff girdle are on my car...from the yellow car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 06 2014, 09:09:48 PM
Yes the yellow car was a peg-leg most of the time I owned it - then I put a posi in it toward the end.

Brad I'm glad to see some of the car is getting put to good use. I loved that car but it was time to change things up. There wasn't much left that I could screw up on it.  :chin:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2014, 04:56:00 PM
Curse you Steve you were right. Part of my issue was shock compression - the lack of.

Drivers side shock has no compression damping - it's junk. Guess the anti roll bar was doing it's job. I alway just pushed down on the car to see if they were tight and the passenger must be tight enough to hold it up.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 09 2014, 05:05:33 PM
Expensive shocks. Rebuildable?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Rebuilds are $75-$100 a piece + shipping - I can get new vikings that have better valving for $150ish a piece or go straight to afco's for $299 a piece.

They've been on the car for 4 years  - they seen some abuse.

Most people would crap if they saw the stack of time slips I have for the car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 09 2014, 05:34:10 PM
Sounds like Afco's to me
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2014, 07:15:19 PM
I did get a raise this week - but kid number 2 will be here in Feb.


Vikings are better bang for the buck - but I kind of want to go afco's and be done with it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 09 2014, 08:07:54 PM
then you better order now!  And, congratulation s!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 14 2014, 01:48:31 PM
Viking rear shocks on the way. I talked with Eric @ MWC at length about viking vs afco. He said at around 1000hp on DRs is when he pushes people to move to afco, and higher on slicks.

$370 shipped for 2 shocks, lower bearing mounts, and threaded shock bodies so I can go coil over in the rear later on if I decide to.

2year warranty on the shocks too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 14 2014, 02:11:22 PM
sounds like a good deal to me...:)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 14 2014, 02:22:33 PM
It's nice to have a vendor not up sell you what you don't need.

Hopefully they make this turd leave. I want 1.3 60' next year.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 14 2014, 02:37:26 PM
better take your g medicine before you launch
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 14 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Might need a kidney belt too!

I'll need to invest in some k-member crash bars and front end limiters if it goes 1.3's - all I'll be seeing is sky.

Any improvement would be nice at this point :)

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 14 2014, 05:45:29 PM
yeah, 1.3 is a serious step up....better get the wheelie bars oiled up
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 14 2014, 05:55:42 PM
1.30 is 2.2 G's. Good gawd!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 16 2014, 05:56:12 PM
Got the viking shocks today - they are bad ass.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 16 2014, 06:25:36 PM
Got the viking shocks today - they are bad ass.

What...no pics? :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 17 2014, 08:11:28 AM
Sorry - I barely had time to look at them.

Tonight!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2014, 09:15:44 AM
forgot to take pics - they are on the car now. We'll see how they do tomorrow. Should be nice cold air and low DA.


Just going to run N/A.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 18 2014, 10:02:43 AM
time to put a blower on it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on October 18 2014, 11:23:28 AM
Or a turbo!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2014, 10:51:37 AM
forgot to take pics - they are on the car now. We'll see how they do tomorrow. Should be nice cold air and low DA.


Just going to run N/A.

Keep us posted! Jeremy...are those single or double adjustables?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2014, 05:00:49 PM
They worked - the settings MWC gave me were good.

car went consistent 11.3x@122 most of the day. Track prep was bad.

Need to order viking front shocks for next year. The qa1 singles don't cut it out front.

Brad - they are double adjustable.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2014, 05:19:27 PM
Jeremy, I saw Bison post to one of the TIA guys that the front end was coming down too fast and it was unloading the back tires. So...the front end needs to come up as quick as possible...and then lower gradually to keep good weight transfer to the rear tires.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2014, 05:36:31 PM
That's the plan. Today I was hooking hard, yanking the fronts and spinning 10' out. New tires, new front shocks, and some better prep and I'll be set.

http://youtu.be/RpxROgbS9z4 (http://youtu.be/RpxROgbS9z4)

http://youtu.be/kikQ2ZU7S-o (http://youtu.be/kikQ2ZU7S-o)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2014, 05:42:52 PM
The run on the 2nd video looked pretty clean. Best short time today? What gear do you do your burnout in?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2014, 05:46:00 PM
1.52 I think.

3rd gear burnouts
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2014, 05:51:11 PM
Stupid question perhaps...but have you compared short times with a 9" slick to a 10.5"? I currently have 9" slicks on these Ultralites...b ut I have a pair of 10.5's. Think I should mount 'em up and give 'em a whirl next spring? Possibly help my short times?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2014, 05:53:24 PM
Heavier cars like the stiff wall slicks. That's what I use - never ran on 9" tires.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 21 2014, 05:52:41 PM
For Brad....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 21 2014, 06:20:40 PM
Easy to adjust. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 22 2014, 12:51:31 PM
yup - I can do it with the car on the ground at ride height :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 24 2014, 08:36:45 AM
Put the car away this week.

Came home Monday to a flat slick. It had a crack in the tread and was leaking air - they were done :)

It went away on a good note this year - next year should be fun. And I won't be waiting 10 weeks for a transmission!

I've been looking at options to run 10.9x N/A - and it's not cheap. Cam, lifters, valve springs, mill the heads, flycut the pistions, new intake/tb, bigger headers, etc - or I could go with some weight reduction either way it adds up quick. I'll probably leave it alone.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 24 2014, 10:13:11 AM
the cost of going fast goes up exponentially vs the improvement in time
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 27 2014, 09:48:29 PM
Buy used parts.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 28 2014, 10:36:00 AM
I buy used when it makes sense - but I've found more often than not, it's better just to buy new. To many idiots in the world.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 28 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Jeremy...here's an F Body for ya'. :) This is my buddy Mike I race with. I assume it's the LS1 block...but bored or stroked to 402. Maybe you can tell by the underhood pic. He usually hits me up for some race gas...lol...to fill that square container on the right with the round lid on it...can't remember what he said  he needs that little shot of race gas for. Maybe you know. Those are MT ET Streets 11.5's on the rear...and his short time is usually 1.48 to 1.52. Best is 10.01...and he normally checks in around 10.2 to 10.3 at 135 to 138. Has the original reworked 4 speed auto with a Yank 3400. Drives the car to and from the track...not a sissy like I am trailering  mine. :)

Oh...almost forgot...it has 3 stages of nitrous. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 28 2014, 09:08:38 PM
That's a dedicated fuel cell for the nitrous system. Its on my list if the car stays n2o
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 28 2014, 09:19:17 PM
That's a sweet ride!  Some day I hope to pull my front wheels even if it's just a centimeter as long as someone gets a pic of them off the ground
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 14 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Had a nerve block on Wednesday - forgot how nasty that procedure is....nothing like a big old needle between the ribs, fishing around for the nerve and then zapping it with RF.

BMR is running a sale on Viking shocks - price is way less than anyone else - hopefully I can get back to work and make some $$$$ and order them :)




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on January 10 2015, 07:18:53 AM
Yes the yellow car was a peg-leg most of the time I owned it - then I put a posi in it toward the end.


Jeremy,

I know this is an old thread and I am not trying to hijack, but your old peg leg car was it an 86 T-Type by chance??
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 10 2015, 07:51:14 AM
Paul, Jeremys car ended up here in Canada. The twin fan setup and the diff girdle are on my car...and the glass hood is on Norbs' car collecting dust. The last time I saw Jeremys car it was in Port Perry. I believe it was a T Type...but Jeremy can confirm.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 10 2015, 10:49:53 AM
Yup 86 T-type.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on January 11 2015, 05:18:09 AM
Paul, Jeremys car ended up here in Canada. The twin fan setup and the diff girdle are on my car...and the glass hood is on Norbs' car collecting dust. The last time I saw Jeremys car it was in Port Perry. I believe it was a T Type...but Jeremy can confirm.

Did a young guy North of you own it?  If so then I think that car is now down Leamington way with a 4.1 in it and now painted white.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 11 2015, 05:35:30 AM
Yeah...that would be him. I know who slapped together that 4.1.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 12 2015, 09:33:33 AM
Hopefully someone cut out the roll bar and re-did it. I was young and dumb when I installed it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 05 2015, 11:17:00 PM
Looks like the car will probably sit all year.
 
 I've had 2 surgeries @ U of M this year for my burn scars, next week the doc and I will decide if we need to do more or wait a couple more months. The last one I actually woke up feeling better than I did before they put me under. So things are moving in the right direction. My right arm looks like a shark took a bite out of it, but I have full range of motion again and less pain.
 
 I also some how managed to tear my meniscus in my left knee. I've been treated so well at U of M that I'll be going down there to see a specialist.
 
 Still off work and don't know when I'll be able to go back....so no money for new slicks and even if I did I couldn't kick the clutch.
 
 On the positive side - our 2nd son is 2 months old and doing well.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 06 2015, 12:23:22 AM
Congrats on the new addition! As far as the car is concerned...it can wait.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 06 2015, 10:06:11 AM
Jeremy, I am glad to hear that the surgery appears to have helped the burn scars.  This has been a long ordeal for you and anything that reduces the pain has to be a major improvement.

Glad to hear that boy is growing and doing well!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 07 2015, 09:42:12 PM
Thanks Steve and Brad.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 18 2015, 09:15:55 PM
Took my 3 year old to the track last week and he had a blast.


I made some runs in the passat - it went 15.3@92. Not bad for a 4 door beater that gets 35mpg and fits the family pretty well. If it had something better than the 600 treadwear tires it'd go quicker. 2.4 60'  :rofl:


U of M said my knee looks good and the cyst is my issue - which they'll take care of in an office visit.


Got some good news from short-term disability insurance (coverage from work) - they finally agree after 6 months that I'm not able to work, and they are going provide benefits.


Might be able to get some slicks for the firebird after all.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on April 18 2015, 09:42:27 PM
Nice times with the Passat. Sounds like things are looking up!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 19 2015, 03:13:46 PM
It's amazing how well some of the newer "grocery getters" run compared to the muscle cars of the '60's.

Glad things are going your way, Jeremy :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 19 2015, 04:33:21 PM
The boost is all over the place with the ecm controlling it. I see 18psi down low and it starts bleeding down to 10psi before the shift. I'm debating if I should put a diode inline with the map so it only see's 4.3 volts and then raise the boost to 18-19psi all the time. The MAF will fuel it and it has a wb02 on it from the factory. The 205 series tires spin enough as it is though. It needs alky on it too - so I don't have to decarbon the valves :) - maybe run a line from the windshield washer tank! I need to do some basic maintenance stuff to it - typical VW stuff.


My brother shit the 1st time he rode in it - it's just a 2.0T in a midsize car.


Not my 1st choice but I walked away with a few dollars in it and no payment - it's no ecoboost truck but it's a interesting daily.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 02 2015, 01:21:03 PM
Knee seems to be good after u of m sucked all the goo out of the cyst and nailed it with some steroids.


I think I'm going to try to change the bird to speed density since it's free now. MAF is a restrictions now - so it might gain a little or not. It'll will be nice to tell the computer to piss off and run open loop  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 02 2015, 03:15:23 PM
damn, you sound like me!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 04 2015, 02:33:18 PM
I love our LS1 in SD... do it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 04 2015, 06:27:06 PM
I think SD will be awesome. The VE table is dialed in to 4000 so it should only need some minor tweaks and the fuel tuned to 7200.


It'll probably be June before I can touch the car. I have another surgery on Friday so I'll be down for 6-8 weeks again.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 06 2015, 10:01:43 AM
I hope it goes well, Jeremy!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 06 2015, 06:40:12 PM
Get well Jeremy...the car can wait.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 06 2015, 07:32:09 PM
Thanks guys!


Hopefully this will be the last surgery for awhile. I need to do something other than deal with the aftermath of the C02 fractional laser treatment. The changes in the scarring have been nothing short of amazing.


 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 07 2015, 02:17:50 PM
That is great to hear.  You have made a lot of progress.  I am sure a lot of it is due to your attitude
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 07 2015, 03:58:17 PM
Thanks Steve I appreciate it. It's been a long hard road, but usually anything worth doing isn't easy.

I'm just grateful I can live a semi-normal life, enjoy my family, etc.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 11 2015, 11:52:55 AM
That procedure was a bitch - and always is. I'm doing good now, but I'll be sore for awhile.


Someone go work on their car so I have something to read about.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 12 2015, 10:13:52 PM
Glad it's behind you!  I have started trying clean up and organize my shop so I have some room to finish the Camaro, finish what I was working on six months ago on my GN and then work on the Challenger.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 02 2015, 01:18:38 PM
Registered the car today and washed it.


Put 4 gallons of 93 and 2 gallons of E85 in it. Should freshen up the old gas  :rock:


The BFG drag radials on it hate life with 4.56 gears.  Forgot what power felt like....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 02 2015, 06:42:57 PM
Registered the car today and washed it.


Put 4 gallons of 93 and 2 gallons of E85 in it. Should freshen up the old gas  :rock:


The BFG drag radials on it hate life with 4.56 gears.  Forgot what power felt like....

How bout posting a walkaround vid of the car...with it running. :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 02 2015, 10:11:39 PM
Put 50 miles on it today - my brother drove for 10 of those miles. Exhaust is to quiet - cutout is getting opened tomorrow.


Brad I can do a walk around for you. I need to make a camera mount - ride along video would be cool.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 02 2015, 10:16:29 PM
I wanna get a GOPRO. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 02 2015, 11:02:34 PM
Video making a run would be cool
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 03 2015, 04:27:22 PM
walk around - https://youtu.be/kHWGGFL2AUI


Idling rich due to a bad o2 sensor.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on July 03 2015, 06:35:00 PM
sounds angry I like it!

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 03 2015, 09:50:08 PM
walk around - https://youtu.be/kHWGGFL2AUI


Idling rich due to a bad o2 sensor.

Spill the beans...what's the cam specs? Jeremy...you have the same controller/box on the passenger fender as Mike...what is it? Nice car. I'm a sucker for that burgundy/wine colour. :) He also has a metal container on the right fender he keeps hitting me up to fill with race gas. :) Can't remember what it's for either. Way to complicated for me. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 03 2015, 10:23:53 PM
Nice
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 03 2015, 10:37:04 PM
Thanks guys.


Brad - the box is a 2-step. The race gas goes in his dedicated fuel system for the nitrous.


Cam specs 231/237 .589/.595 112 LSA - the lobes are pretty "square" for a cam this size. This cam makes power everywhere and yet I can still load the engine to around 1300rpm without it surging.


I'm used to it sounds tame to me until I open the cutout.


Took the wife for a ride tonight 20psi in the tires helped a bunch, doesn't skate all over the place now. If I can get a camera mount cobbled I can do a ride along.




 

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2015, 12:30:51 PM
I was wrong tires are done - car came completely around on a 2-3 shift, and I just about shit myself. Once these get warm, I might as well be driving in the rain.


Looks like I'll be going to a local dyno day on the 25th to see what it'll hammer out. I'll be interesting to see a number. To bad I don't have a full bottle. I have no idea what to expect. I have a ball park of where it should be, should be fun.


I'm represented on my disability case now. So I just have to play the waiting game. Lawyer said about 12 months for a hearing. So car things are on hold until I start getting some income.


I'm tired of the ride down to University of Michigan - but I'm thankful they have doctors that can help me. These Michigan roads are terrible - usually takes me a full day to recover from the trip.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 10 2015, 04:58:00 PM
We'll see if these 9" slicks have any bite left in them when I test this new transmission tomorrow morning at the track. If everything looks good on PL I'll bounce the boost up a tad and do a little bracket racing. The 18 wheelers and turbo diesel 4x4 trucks take to the track after us. I'll get plenty of pics and post 'em.

Mike has a ton of money into his car...and I'm betting he put down 700 WHP for that 9.95 last week. If memory serves you were in the low 11 area...so I'll say 520 WHP. :)

Mike went 11.3 naturally aspirated the week before his 9 second run.  :O
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2015, 08:31:05 PM
120-122mph - runs 11.3's
Well over 130 on the bottle.


I'm thinking 400 to the tire. We will see.




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 18 2015, 09:59:52 PM
Put another 120 miles on it. Maybe the tires are still good. I made some suspension changes and it doesn't skate around nearly as much. I think moving the lower control arms up one more hole should eliminate that.


I've been experimenting with a 3 gallons of 93 to one gallon of E85. I'm to lazy to even think about the Octane and ethanol percentage. Car seems to like it, I figure the extra octane is worth over the added fuel required and it saves a few dollars at the pump.


Car will get strapped down to a dyno next Saturday, and it'll probably be 88-92* with 60+ on the humidity and the car will be driven there and home. Bottle is full and I'm going to wack it with 100 or 150 depending on where the numbers end up N/A. Might need the spray to break 400  :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 25 2015, 11:19:36 PM
Hit the dyno today.

n/a:
http://youtu.be/ONR85vgv8VY (http://youtu.be/ONR85vgv8VY)

bottle:
http://youtu.be/PToENph4Lls (http://youtu.be/PToENph4Lls)

(http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=61244&d=1437879756&thumb=1)


Drove 35 miles there and back  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 25 2015, 11:56:03 PM
Nice work! I was a little off at predicting 520. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 26 2015, 12:13:39 AM
That's awesome!  Field of dreams... Dyno in the middle of a corn field
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 26 2015, 08:31:49 AM
Jeremy...what pistons are in that engine. I'll ask my buddy Mike how much spray they can handle. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2015, 09:33:24 AM
Stock pistons - some guys hit them with 300 and they live and others break them with 150. It's all in the tune.

I'm happy with the numbers :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 26 2015, 10:38:19 AM
Stock pistons - some guys hit them with 300 and they live and others break them with 150. It's all in the tune.

I'm happy with the numbers :)

And who is tuning this thing?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2015, 11:05:42 AM
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Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 26 2015, 11:22:29 AM
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Curious about the difference between the NA and nitrous tune.  Care to share the files?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2015, 11:44:48 AM
Honestly Mike - I've always just knocked 4* of timing out of it for 100 and 6* out of it for 150. Car always runs well, the mph picks up accordingly, and the plugs read good.

Let me grab the tuning laptop and I'll post a link for you.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2015, 11:57:43 AM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19189353/Tuning/Logs%20and%20Tunes/Firebird/150shot%2024%20degrees.hpt


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19189353/Tuning/Logs%20and%20Tunes/Firebird/071715bird-existing%20tune.hpt



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 27 2015, 08:26:33 PM
Interesting.  You run the same fixed TAF and VE tables in both tunes.  Are you spraying wet or dry?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 27 2015, 10:09:22 PM
Wet


Just timing - that is the only change.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 28 2015, 12:49:12 PM
So are you spraying to an AFR richer than the 12.8 you have the ECM programmed for N/A?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 28 2015, 01:17:55 PM
WBo2 normally shows 12.2-12.5 when spraying. I tend to not chase a number. I read the plugs and watch the mph on the slip. So far the jetting on this Nitrous outlet plate is pretty close out of the box.








Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 28 2015, 09:08:43 PM
Sounds good, just curious.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 03 2015, 10:01:15 PM
VW ate it's timing chain on friday. Waiting for the new owners to come drag it home.


Early retirement isn't so fun  :013:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 23 2015, 09:26:20 PM
The plan is to go make some runs on Sunday. All I have for tires is a set of 255/60/16 BFG drag radial. I've got it hooking pretty well on the street but the 1-2 and 2-3 shift it knocks the tires off hard N/A. Hopefully a couple more clicks of compression will cure it. It did easy 1.7's with nittos so I'm hoping I can at least do that with these. I stuck the 100 jets in the plate - I'm going to be hit 5th N/A so might as well hit it with more power right  :cheers:


I swapped out my belts today with a new set, tech probably won't look but it's done. Need to change the oil and give everything a once over and it should be good.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 27 2015, 06:57:32 PM
Made 4 passes today. First one I had some traction issues. 2nd pass I left easier and it hopped in 1st and 2nd. Made some shock tweaks and it ran 11.7@118 almost 119 with a 1.7 60ft out of gear, so I lifted before the traps. Backed it up with a 11.8@118 and called it good.


My friend Dave has a 99 camaro 6 speed with a billet 74 on it. I don't think he ran it out the back door but it when 116 in the 1/8th. Stock bottom end, truck heads, z06 cam, good valve springs.


My nerve pain has been a roller coaster - today was a rough day, but I made it thru and still had a good time.











Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 27 2015, 07:19:58 PM
Your making decent HP at 118. 116 in the 1/8th is insane. :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 27 2015, 10:24:08 PM
Yeah it's still a BAMFLS1, and it still runs hard in street trim.


I really wished I had went turbo instead of nitrous. My car pulls insanely hard on a 150 shot but that's still only a 104-105mph in the 1/8. Dave's car is a sleeper too. Sounds like a mild LS1 until you hear the turbo.


My brother and I have been talking about a junkyard ls swap with a turbo in something. Their is no cheaper easier or more reliable way to make power. Who cares if it dies when they are $300 from almost any salvage yard.


My brother got it done in his mustang. It went 13.08@107 with the junk motor we put together. It's got 3.27 gears and a T5 stick. We've got 4.10's to put in it. And we still haven't tuned it. I think it might have an 11 second pass in it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 11 2015, 08:37:55 PM
Took the car out to play again today. High 11.8@118 running it out the back door with a 1.8 60ft. Nothing special - just had some fun.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 12 2015, 12:09:02 AM
That car is a lot of fun!  Glad to see some don't always follow the easy prescription for success!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2015, 01:34:58 PM
Thanks Steve. I tried making 3 runs with the bottle and they didn't turn out so well - I was trying for 100 in the 1/8th in street trim. Didn't happen but I had fun
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 15 2015, 06:07:54 PM
118 mph...at 11.8...was making some HP. Jeremy...what did it pick up on the back half?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 15 2015, 07:07:04 PM
26mph - hitting the rev limiter before the traps
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 15 2015, 08:28:18 PM
26mph - hitting the rev limiter before the traps

Looking at the ET I kinda figured it got it's act together in the back half. Nice work. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 16 2015, 12:23:43 PM
Brad on slicks it backhalf's 28-29mph. On the bottle it's 30-32mph. Gotta love the aero of a 4th gen.


Logs show that the map never gets above 95kpa. It needs to breathe better.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 16 2015, 09:55:21 PM
My buddy Mike with the 2002 Camaro went 9.2...and the trans let go. Time to get your little guy into a junior dragster. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 17 2015, 09:29:08 AM
Brad, maybe the body shop needs to do a transplant on your car....bring it back as a 4th gen.  Me, I would put a thunderchicken on the hood!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 17 2015, 11:50:08 AM
I've thought about the chicken on the hood. It's a little "loud" for my taste.


My wife and I are going to a burn survivors conference next week.  Should be a good experience. My doctors are working on a referral to Mayo clinic. I'm tired of the pain. Between cannabis, percocet, and neurotin you'd think I could keep it under control. Hoping there are other options other than methadone :(






Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 17 2015, 01:42:50 PM
damn, I hope you find something that works...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 17 2015, 10:24:17 PM
Brad, maybe the body shop needs to do a transplant on your car....bring it back as a 4th gen.  Me, I would put a thunderchicken on the hood!


The whole mystique of these cars is the 231 under the hood...and I wouldn't change that for the world. The look on the guys faces with the big tire cars and the late model v8 domestics when I put them on the trailer...is priceless. Jeremy...hang in there. There's advancements in the medical world every day.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2015, 10:34:54 AM
My brother took his Mustang out yesterday for the last TNT of the year. I went 13.2@107. He had 60ft issues the clutches in his posi were not cooperating. Not bad for a junkyard engine. Once we actually tune the damn thing it should run a little better.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 19 2015, 03:34:45 PM
26mph - hitting the rev limiter before the traps

Raise the limiter. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2015, 04:14:19 PM
26mph - hitting the rev limiter before the traps

Raise the limiter. ;)


 :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2015, 05:01:27 PM
My brother took his Mustang out yesterday for the last TNT of the year. I went 13.2@107. He had 60ft issues the clutches in his posi were not cooperating. Not bad for a junkyard engine. Once we actually tune the damn thing it should run a little better.

Fifty percent of the fun for me is derived from hanging out with the guys at the track. Keep picking away at it...you'll be in the 12's easy. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2015, 05:14:34 PM
He's got some 4.10's for it. That should do it, as it has 3.27's now  :O
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2015, 05:17:01 PM
He's got some 4.10's for it. That should do it, as it has 3.27's now  :O

13.2 with a highway gear...dayum!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2015, 07:31:24 PM
and it's a junkyard 302. The main and rod bearings were toast, so we replaced them. It got a "F" cam 226/226 .512 lift, TFS intake, and bbk headers. 


Next year it'll have either a moates quarter horse or a megasquirt box in it.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2015, 08:21:49 PM
I assume you know Megasquirt. For conversations sake...why not XFI or BS3?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2015, 09:20:41 PM
Mainly price - http://www.efisource.com/shop/microsquirt-1986-93-ford-5-0-mustang/ (http://www.efisource.com/shop/microsquirt-1986-93-ford-5-0-mustang/)


If my car was fast and I had money to burn I'd do something like a holley dominator with a davis traction control box.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 22 2016, 08:40:51 PM
Debating on some changes this spring.


I'm debating on going back to an auto. Probably be a 400 - the overdrive of the 80e was nice, but I don't want to spend $2500 to rebuild it and then another grand for a converter. I found a th400 local for $175 and I might pick it up and rebuilt it myself. Converters are cheap, I'm thinking I'll need another driveshaft for the th400, I already have 3 driveshafts for the car - why not 4.


I'd love to be able to order some slicks and go beat the snot out of it the way it is. But I know kicking the clutch isn't in my best interest with the nerve pain in my left side.


My 4 year old Matthew is already asking me when we get to go race  :rock:



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on February 23 2016, 03:25:05 AM
Hey, you cant deprive your child of "going to race". Nothing wrong with a th400. Cheap and reliable. It's not like you are going to be driving it back and forth to work everyday. Sounds like a solid plan to me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 23 2016, 05:00:18 PM
Jeremy, if you honestly can't 'row' the gears anymore...then it's time for an auto. We both know how important convertor selection is. You'll 'blow through' a cheap one. With our dollar so low you could get a high dollar one for next to nothing up here. Something around a grand would only run you bout 550 bucks with the exchange rate. Should you find something up here in the Toronto area...let me know and I'll pick it up and ship it to you free of charge.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 23 2016, 07:48:38 PM
Thank Brad - by cheap I meant a PTC $450 convertor or a Freakshow performance converter $320.


The combo will we changed significantly once I find a money tree.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 29 2016, 03:49:50 PM
I now own a th400 transmission. Supposed to be a good working unit. Lets see how much I can mess it up  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 29 2016, 05:09:24 PM
I now own a th400 transmission. Supposed to be a good working unit. Lets see how much I can mess it up  :rock:

I double dog dare ya' to put a 5000 convertor in it and launch it like a boss. :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on March 01 2016, 11:10:25 PM
Do it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 15 2016, 12:49:31 PM
No progress here. I have all the vss parts for the th400 and that about as far as I've gotten. Also picked up a clean set of truck manifolds for another project.


Doctors switched me to a fentanyl patch for pain. It's helping but I'm drowsy alot. The other option is methadone. I think I'll keep smoking weed before I go there....



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 25 2016, 04:07:14 PM
Washed the car today - and decided that I needed to lower the front. 30mins later and the front is dropped .5" - love coil overs.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 25 2016, 07:26:44 PM
Do stop in more often... and bring pics.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 25 2016, 09:10:02 PM
Before and after the drop.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 25 2016, 10:15:14 PM
Looks good!  Keep the updates coming!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 26 2016, 10:07:10 AM
That is one beautiful car!  Kinda reminds me of Aggie Maroon :D

I think it's time for some forced aspiration!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2016, 10:39:48 AM
Steve - if I ever get a court date for my disability claim, that dream might come true. But for now it's just a dream. I'm just thankful that my pain has let up enough for me to get out of the house and do something!



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 26 2016, 11:25:43 AM
That is a blessing for sure!  It's hard for me to believe that there can be any dispute over disability but you probably don't belong to the automatic group.  After all, you had a job to begin with.   Sarcasm on my part
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2016, 11:55:02 AM
If I would have filed for PTSD rather than pain as my main complaint I'd probably have it. But pain is more difficult to prove. To me, my family and friends - its black and white.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 26 2016, 11:59:47 AM
It took me almost four years to the day to get my disability claim settled. All I can say is good luck!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 26 2016, 12:55:59 PM
One does not have to be very well educated to understand the excruciating pain that a severe burn patient goes thru afterward.  This makes no freakin' sense to me at all.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 26 2016, 01:00:33 PM
That is one beautiful car!  Kinda reminds me of Aggie Maroon :D

I think it's time for some forced aspiration!

It. Is. Purple.

And there are so many affordable F-body turbo kits now it is insane, even ones that keep the A/C.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2016, 02:43:10 PM
Maple Red Metallic is the color. Depending on the light its red or burgundy.


Send me some of that baller money you have. When I decided to walk away from my job almost 2 years ago we lost 75% of our income. Jonny @ Huronspeed will hook me up when I'm ready. Or if I get bored I might build a kit....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 26 2016, 07:08:15 PM
I love the color...I would not mind painting my Camaro that color
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 26 2016, 09:39:35 PM
Pics with the stock rims don't do this car justice...but vids from the track with race rims/tires on it do. :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 27 2016, 08:29:26 AM
Maple Red Metallic is the color. Depending on the light its red or burgundy.


Send me some of that baller money you have. When I decided to walk away from my job almost 2 years ago we lost 75% of our income. Jonny @ Huronspeed will hook me up when I'm ready. Or if I get bored I might build a kit....

Mmmmm... maple.

I wish I had baller money, unfortunately we just have cars.  Not big on material possesions/vices; hell, we don't even own a TV.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 09 2016, 10:25:10 AM
Took the car to local show - it's more of a cruise in. Lots of stuff for the kids and just a good time overall.


Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on August 09 2016, 10:32:26 AM
Lol they are having fun  :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 09 2016, 11:52:52 AM
 :D :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Be4u on August 10 2016, 01:22:00 AM
hell, we don't even own a TV.
damn.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 20 2016, 04:02:12 PM
Wife caught a nail and needed new tires - she thought it was only fair the bird got some new tires.  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2016, 12:15:08 PM
Just need to get them mounted - waiting for the dish soap to dry.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2016, 12:19:26 PM
Might polish the wheels too - I've been feeling like crap and in pain so I might say fuck it, probably will powdercoat them in the future anyways. It's so much less maintenance
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 23 2016, 02:09:50 PM
Nothing like a wife when it is a good one!  :D   
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 23 2016, 06:54:28 PM
Jeremy...those appear to be the same rims I have. Those rims are zero maintenance. Pretty much just hose 'em off.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2016, 08:04:48 PM
Brad my fronts are a pain. The hawk pads dust like crazy - but I like to know the car will stop from 130+.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 23 2016, 08:28:21 PM
I have Hawk HPS front pads...and get no dust?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Be4u on August 24 2016, 01:01:24 AM
Cah's are weird like that.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 24 2016, 11:48:06 AM
Brad mine dust quite a bit....


Tires are mounted and balanced :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 24 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Pics...or I call bullshit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 24 2016, 03:55:14 PM
I'll get you some Sunday. Big difference stopping for an 1/8 to 1/4 strip.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 24 2016, 08:30:05 PM
Agreed, I'm on the binders pretty lightly. I ran the 1/4 at Armdrop last May...don't remember how dusted the rims were then. Can't remember if I ran the stock rims or the fancy ass ones.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 25 2016, 04:44:41 PM
Got the skinnies on today. I've been battling opiate withdrawl for the last couple weeks. My doctor and I decided it would be a good idea to try and reduce my dose, but it hasn't worked out so good. Fentanyl withdrawl sucks. I go to the doctor on monday to try and figure something out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 25 2016, 04:50:56 PM
I can't imagine what you're going through. Any relief from medicinal marijuana?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 25 2016, 05:12:46 PM
The cannabis helps a lot - but you don't get much done when you use it. I try to get thru most of the day without it, but in the afternoon thru the night I need it. I did have a good streak going and didn't need the cannabis for a month, so there is a lot of hope.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2016, 05:16:40 PM
What a day. Car wouldn't hook and I wasn't the only one. The starting line was tore to shit from the snowmobile races that were going on.


It went 11.696@119.34 with a 1.704 60ft


Brad here is the pic
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2016, 05:18:39 PM
It was 82* with almost 80% humidity.


My brother got his stang down to 13.1@108


So it was a good day - just chased my ass trying to make the car hook.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 28 2016, 05:32:52 PM
I like the MPH! And you had fun! Both temp and humidity up here for the past 6 weeks have both been in the 90's. It's been brutal on the cars at the track.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2016, 05:44:22 PM
It was a good time. I need to raise the front back up - would have done it at the track but I forgot my tape measure. It was fun putting bus lengths on some cars.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on August 29 2016, 08:51:11 AM
Mustang and fbody make mad mph.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 09 2016, 05:23:43 PM
Got some new toys. Need to move the tires back for more clearance. No more squeaky poly!  :rock:

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 09 2016, 05:28:04 PM
Plan is more air pressure in the slicks, slow down the front and hope she hooks.


Those lowers weight less than 3lb each.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 09 2016, 11:30:32 PM
Who makes those arms?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 10 2016, 09:22:16 AM
Midwest Chassis - http://midwestchassis.com/products/82-02-camaro-trans-am-firebird-lower-control-arms-f-body-lca-double-adjustable (http://midwestchassis.com/products/82-02-camaro-trans-am-firebird-lower-control-arms-f-body-lca-double-adjustable)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 10 2016, 09:37:57 AM
Midwest Chassis - http://midwestchassis.com/products/82-02-camaro-trans-am-firebird-lower-control-arms-f-body-lca-double-adjustable (http://midwestchassis.com/products/82-02-camaro-trans-am-firebird-lower-control-arms-f-body-lca-double-adjustable)


Look like a quality piece. Nice price too!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 10 2016, 10:49:34 AM
I'm digging the black oxide finish - tired of everything being powder coated.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 16 2016, 05:46:56 PM
Well - I was able to get one lower off today.....gues s it's progress. The last week has been pretty crappy - something pissed my nerves off.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 17 2016, 03:09:48 PM
progress!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 17 2016, 03:20:34 PM
Lookin' good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 17 2016, 07:09:17 PM
How far were able to move the axle forward?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 17 2016, 09:06:38 PM
not much forward - just looking to move it 1/2" or so to the rear.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 17 2016, 10:53:51 PM
not much forward - just looking to move it 1/2" or so to the rear.
My bad. I misunderstood. Thought you needed to move forward
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 18 2016, 09:41:12 AM
Suspension is my downfall...and I need to learn it. Steve posted a link for a book. Gonna get it this winter...and will prolly have plenty of questions.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 18 2016, 10:24:01 AM
Suspension is my downfall...and I need to learn it. Steve posted a link for a book. Gonna get it this winter...and will prolly have plenty of questions.
Better get it while you can. Prices have gone up considerably since I bought it.


https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pow-pow901020?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-powerhouse-products&gclid=COeG0_OOmc8CFVUdgQod-QwAqw&ibanner=MobileSwitchNo (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pow-pow901020?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-powerhouse-products&gclid=COeG0_OOmc8CFVUdgQod-QwAqw&ibanner=MobileSwitchNo)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 18 2016, 10:30:19 AM
Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 18 2016, 11:54:21 AM
Having adjustment is nice - making it work is the key. I have mine down pretty good, I might have to start slipping the clutch again to get better 60fts - who knows try try and try again until it works!


Brad:


http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/chevy.htm (http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/kits/chevy.htm)


^-thats what I'd use if I ever get another gbody - them or TRZ. There is a ton of info on yellowbullet.c om too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 18 2016, 12:01:17 PM
Thanks Jeremy. It's a long winter...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 18 2016, 03:26:49 PM
Other side is done
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 18 2016, 03:29:45 PM
Now for the fun - adjusting and aligning
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 19 2016, 01:37:28 PM
Ugh - as I figured, to get the clearance I want in the front I'll have to do some more work to the rear bumper cover and possibly some minor revisions to the sheet metal under the cover to allow it to come back.


I'm going to take a break and decide what the next step is.


#racecarproblems
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 19 2016, 04:58:25 PM
typical car!  You will get there :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 20 2016, 06:15:27 PM
Got one side the way I want it - on to the passenger side. Ended up being 1/4" back from stock and some more hammering. Everything passes the finger test  :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 22 2016, 10:18:22 AM
well its done - I drove around our neighbor hood and didn't have any rubbing, normally they would run in a turn above 5mph.


fingers crossed the alignment is good - both bars are the same length, so unless the car is tweaked I should be good. It appeared to track well for the 2 seconds I had it on a real road. Either way adjustments are easy now.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 22 2016, 10:21:59 AM
all's well that ends well!  Now you need a bigger tire! :D
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 22 2016, 01:37:25 PM
need more power for a bigger tire - just need to make this chassis work again. It's funny the rod ends are quieter than the poly bushings.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 22 2016, 07:35:29 PM
I would expect them to be
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 25 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Took it to the track today - ran mid 11s @ 120 all day and then drove home. Still can't get it to leave like I want to. Still chasing my ass.

https://youtu.be/oB54Qe7EFx8



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 25 2016, 09:13:24 PM
My brothers view of a run:
https://youtu.be/pi52y4blmXE

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 25 2016, 10:16:55 PM
Looked like a solid run to me!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on September 25 2016, 10:52:05 PM
Does yours weigh 5000lbs too? ;)

Banging gears is awesome!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 26 2016, 04:51:36 AM
The car's consistent. You'll get the suspension dialed in. Bangin' gears all day with the bro...and being at the track. Now that's fun!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 26 2016, 06:41:10 PM
Well it was a day - we were supposed to leave at 10am....
Damn ford ate a starter and I had to got tow start it, then we went and got a starter for it and changed it. We got to the track at 1pm and had it pretty much to ourselves.

Stang went 12.8@108. Megasquirt goes on next week.

I made some calls and made some changes to my car, hopefully for the better
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 27 2016, 10:50:56 PM
Made a "test" hit the other day. Pulled out of the subdivision on to a 2 lane highway that was clear - and let it rip, pulled 2nd and then coasted another drive to the subdivision. The car definitely puts more weight on the rear - and pushes forward rather than just trying to keep the nose up.  We shall see.


Wife was less than impressed..... and it was pretty stupid, but fun.  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Found my problem - damn tire pressure gauge.


Car went 11.3@121 all day. low to mid 1.5 60'


https://youtu.be/UYYED0BSnAg



Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on October 09 2016, 05:17:16 PM
Nice


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Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 09 2016, 07:03:04 PM
OH HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2016, 08:01:14 PM
60  1.569
330 4.674
1/8 7.246
MPH 95.74
1000 9.466
1/4 11.326
MPH 121.50


Best pass today - yanked the front hard.


Gonna need more power to play with some of the cars. There were some CTSV's running high 10's@135ish. Might have to change the plugs and put the pills to it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2016, 08:07:43 PM
Oh and it's been driven to the track everytime this year. Probably have almost 1500 miles on it this year. One of the factory subs blew up today so now the radio sounds like shit. Between the exhaust, transmission, and rearend it makes it's own sound track.


Brothers mustang went 12.7@108 today but broke a bolt off on the manual alternator tensioner. We cobbled it with some zip ties to get him home. I tuned his GTP yesterday and it dropped 2 more tenths and gain 1.5mph. Pretty sure it was 14.6@95. Tuning, a filter and catless downpipe has dropped over a half second off this car. The tune was set pretty safe, just forgot the laptop to upload the track tune
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 10 2016, 08:40:25 AM
my brothers view again https://youtu.be/FmslUvNhwrg  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 10 2016, 08:46:03 AM
Bungie cord that glovebox! LOL! Great vids!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 10 2016, 12:31:34 PM
As my brother said galloping pile of shit :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 10 2016, 09:25:20 PM
Battle of the purple F-bodies!

Nice pass.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 13 2016, 03:55:34 PM
Got my new tire pressure gauge. It's pretty damn nice for $20. Pretty much my old one read 5lbs low. So my slicks were always 20lbs instead of 15. Sunday is our last test and tune and it looks like it might get rained out.


Next year I'll have a good base line to start from.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 13 2016, 08:12:23 PM
Head south to follow the race scene as it goes that way for the winter
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2016, 12:29:54 PM
Car is done for the season. Slicks are in the basement for safe storage.


Got some more news from .gov - my case has been moved to the board of appeals, so probably another year or so before someone actually looks at it.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 11 2017, 12:21:50 PM
Just got a court date!!!!!!! Fingers crossed that everything goes smooth.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on January 11 2017, 12:25:58 PM
3 months. Not too bad
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on January 11 2017, 01:07:22 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 19 2017, 06:52:56 PM
Tuned my brothers 04 rcsb 2wd Silverado. Went from barely turning over the tire, to a one tire fire. Couldn't get the 60e to hit the 1-2 As I'd like, but he has an 80e waiting for it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on February 19 2017, 08:21:10 PM
Tuned my brothers 04 rcsb 2wd Silverado. Went from barely turning over the tire, to a one tire fire. Couldn't get the 60e to hit the 1-2 As I'd like, but he has an 80e waiting for it.

Too soon or too late?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 19 2017, 08:36:53 PM
It just hangs on the shift, delayed and soft. 2-3 is nice and crisp. Every other one I've tuned has been good. The truck has 240k miles on it and we don't know what has been done.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 12 2017, 02:04:41 PM
My wife and I attended a burn survivor workshop yesterday. It's always nice to be surrounded by people that just get everything that you've been thru, and not only for me as a survivor but my wife as a caregiver/spouse.


I met David Bowers for the first time. Him and his wife Carly are truly amazing people. He survived a explosion that left him with 94% of his body burned. They even gave out a copy of their book to everyone that attended. http://www.bowersministry.com/the-book/ (http://www.bowersministry.com/the-book/)


The doctors put me @ 80% - and when I sit and think about things, it reminds me that - I'm damn lucky, and someone up stairs was looking out for me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 14 2017, 06:38:28 PM
it was not your time...and there are a lot of us that are glad that it was not.  I hope the treatment procedures and pain management continue to evolve so that things get better as time passes.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 14 2017, 11:06:12 PM
That man upstairs has looked over my shoulder a time or two as well. Not sure of your story but glad your still around for me to converse with and learn from.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 19 2017, 06:18:07 PM
We will see what the judge says on Tuesday. It'll be another 30-45 days before I find out if I get SS disability.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 19 2017, 09:24:05 PM
We will see what the judge says on Tuesday. It'll be another 30-45 days before I find out if I get SS disability.
Keeping my fingers crossed for ya!  Good luck!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on March 21 2017, 09:52:18 AM
Good luck!  Natasha and I are still trying to decide if we want to join the parental support groups for Talia's CI - only time will tell.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on March 21 2017, 06:27:07 PM
Keep on keepin on. You can't get where you want to go by not attempting to get there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2017, 06:53:09 PM
The hearing could not have gone better according to my lawyer. Hopefully my testimony was what they needed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on March 21 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 21 2017, 10:22:43 PM
That's good news! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 22 2017, 09:13:50 AM
That sounds great!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2017, 05:29:11 PM
My brother decided to start over with a cleaner chassis. He is selling his blue stang to my dad and has a rust free white stang roller in the garage. At this point he is leaning toward a turbo'd 351w/c4 combo.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2017, 07:52:33 PM
The bad thing is the shaved handles he's debating on what he should do...


(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17211833_10156005967454552_2096535196892434962_o.jpg?oh=a915303852771889920a3a0e6c074cf5&oe=59720D3C)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 26 2017, 09:11:42 PM
Grab some other doors.  That should be pretty easy to find
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 06 2017, 11:35:26 AM
http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Huron-Speed-V1-Truck-Manifold-Single-T4-Turbo-Kit-v1TMkit.htm (http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Huron-Speed-V1-Truck-Manifold-Single-T4-Turbo-Kit-v1TMkit.htm)


http://www.cbrperformanceproducts.com/ls1_camaro_transam_f_body_turbo_kit_p/llfbhs.htm (http://www.cbrperformanceproducts.com/ls1_camaro_transam_f_body_turbo_kit_p/llfbhs.htm)


Trying to decide. The huron requires pusher fans, which everyone bitches about, and the cbr kit may require a oil scavenge pump which sounds like a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on April 06 2017, 07:34:13 PM
Lsx and a big hairdrier. Powerglide if track only and th400 if it is for the street. Should go deep in the fives even with one of the truck engines and a bunch of boost.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 06 2017, 08:40:13 PM
I think I'm going to start with the t-56. I mean it's got all the good parts in it, and a badass clutch setup. Might as well have some fun with it. The other reason was: the wife would probably kill me if I went back to an auto at this point. More or less she is on board with a turbo!

I'm wanting 135mph or so and I think thats a reasonable goal and many ways to get there. I could spray it a little harder, but as fun as nitrous is - it is a major pain in the ass.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on April 11 2017, 10:24:17 AM
Sell me the T56 and use that money to go bigger: http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Turbo-Kits_c6.htm (http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Turbo-Kits_c6.htm)

No A/C in the car? Odd.

I would definitely go with a 4L80E if I had my way.  This is about the best deal out there: http://www.bmracing.com/products/118002-bm-street-and-strip-automatic-transmission-1997-and-up-gm-with-4l80e-transmission/ (http://www.bmracing.com/products/118002-bm-street-and-strip-automatic-transmission-1997-and-up-gm-with-4l80e-transmission/)  I believe you can get it down around $2100 (and there is no core charge).
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 11 2017, 11:31:57 AM
Yeah there is a/c in it Mike. And that's the only reason it hasn't had a kit on it already.


80e not a bad way to go, been there done that. They are heavy mofo's.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 11 2017, 11:50:08 AM
I like the A/C kits but then it snowballs, you need k-member - then why not lower control arms and on and on.


The A/C belt has been off the car for 2 years, since the tensioner is shot and it hasn't been on my short lists of fixes, but neither have the NB o2's lol!


Waiting on a few other things to resolve before I start spending.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on April 11 2017, 12:26:20 PM
Everything always snowballs - the question is: just how big and out of control do you allow it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 11 2017, 01:57:10 PM
I remember selling my Buick and telling Steve that I just wanted a nice car to cruise in with my wife...that lasted about 2 weeks.

She has yet to drive the car or ride in it since I put the faceplated trans in it
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 13 2017, 10:59:04 AM
First mod of the year! Need to charge the battery, calibrate the wbo2, and flash a 1bar speed density operating system to the pcm. I'm excited to play with the real time tuning feature.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 13 2017, 02:37:41 PM
Summer will soon be here.  time to ignore the weather and get ready!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 13 2017, 04:36:52 PM
It lives. Now I just have to spend the time on the tune. Need dry roads...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 13 2017, 07:02:32 PM
Still HPtuner?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 13 2017, 08:31:02 PM
yup
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 14 2017, 12:31:30 AM
Jeremy, I'm tiring real quick of recalibrating these fukn WB02 sensors.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on April 14 2017, 09:40:05 AM
Jeremy, I'm tiring real quick of recalibrating these fukn WB02 sensors.
I'm running this with 93 and alky and no calibration required. Not sure how it will hold up on race gas.


http://www.aemelectronics.com/products/wideband-uego-air-fuel-controllers/digital-wideband-uego-afr-gauge/digital-wideband-uego-afr-gauge (http://www.aemelectronics.com/products/wideband-uego-air-fuel-controllers/digital-wideband-uego-afr-gauge/digital-wideband-uego-afr-gauge)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 14 2017, 10:05:36 AM
Jason...you mite be right about the race gas. It eats away certain metal at an alarming rate. The exhaust housing on my turbo is a mess...and I'm certain it ate away the puck assembly last year. Caustic shit...to be sure.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 14 2017, 10:49:52 AM
Brad - To be honest mine rarely needs calibrated. I check it every so often. I've ran pump, e85, race gas - and this sensor is 7 years old. Do you have the NTK or Bosch sensor?


Jason - those are good wbo2s too but in my experience the 5v out isn't as stable as the NGK and it has the bosch sensor.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 14 2017, 11:34:20 AM
Brad - also isn't yours close to the turbine? maybe move it further down stream.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 14 2017, 12:40:07 PM
Brad - also isn't yours close to the turbine? maybe move it further down stream.

Put it downstream as far as I could. The race gas is eating stuff alive.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 14 2017, 03:52:50 PM
E85 available up there? Takes more pump, more injector but would probably payoff vs race gas
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: gusszgs on April 14 2017, 05:24:41 PM
E85 up here? you kidd'n.......yet the Libs preach were so green and leaders in saving the environment. Thank Christ for Razor
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 14 2017, 09:11:29 PM
I heard there was one station in Guelph and one in Ottawa and some out west
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: reality on April 14 2017, 10:20:32 PM
The 1 in GUELPH wont sell you e85 if unless you are driving a flex fuel vehicle and NO cans. The boys in the Hammer that run it go to Buffalo with a bunch of cans. the border guy asked about all the can and Jay told him it was e85 and impossible to get in ON the BP says have a nice day.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on April 15 2017, 12:51:45 AM
Down here, if you have money and the approved tank or can you are good to go. Plenty of places sell e85
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: reality on April 15 2017, 06:55:22 AM
That's only that one guy. apparently he is afraid somebody is going to use it in a non flex vehicle and sue him for damages.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 24 2017, 04:03:43 PM
My uncle has offered me his abruzzi built th400. It's rmvb w/brake for a really good price. He also has the converter that he ran behind his 416 LS3 stroker, and a driveshaft that should fit.


I'm torn. And I don't want to spend a dime until I get my disability hearing results


Hoping I get a letter from the .gov here in the next week or so.....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on April 24 2017, 09:56:35 PM
I heard there was one station in Guelph and one in Ottawa and some out west

The ones in Ottawa are gone. FML.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 10 2017, 11:35:08 AM
Almost 60 days no word - starting to stress. Lawyer checked the online portal and says nothing has been posted. Guess I sit on my hands and wait more.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 10 2017, 05:50:12 PM
Almost 60 days no word - starting to stress. Lawyer checked the online portal and says nothing has been posted. Guess I sit on my hands and wait more.

Hang in there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 13 2017, 01:53:50 PM
I spent some $$$ this morning.


Huron Speed V1 turbo kit
VS Racing cast 78/75 turbo
VS racing 44mm wastegate
VS racing 50mm bov


no more filling bottles!


I've been saving my pennies for awhile. I still need fuel pumps, lines, injectors and fans. I'm thinking I can sell my n2o stuff and fast intake to covers most of that. Up in the air about the cam, we will see
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 13 2017, 02:22:50 PM
LOL @ FAST and boost = No bueno. Yup, sell that junk.  Dorman LS2 w/WARR TB is the new budget solution from what I understand.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/1861644-intake-flow-numbers-78mm-ls1-90mm-tbss-92mm-dorman-ls2-102mm-fast-lsxrt.html

Congrats!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 13 2017, 02:46:16 PM
Don't the dormans split under boost? I'm just going to run the stock ls1 intake and t/b.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 13 2017, 04:34:34 PM
I believe that was some of the earlier intakes.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 13 2017, 04:43:59 PM
I spent some $$$ this morning.


Huron Speed V1 turbo kit
VS Racing cast 78/75 turbo
VS racing 44mm wastegate
VS racing 50mm bov


no more filling bottles!


I've been saving my pennies for awhile. I still need fuel pumps, lines, injectors and fans. I'm thinking I can sell my n2o stuff and fast intake to covers most of that. Up in the air about the cam, we will see
[/quote

Back in the turbo game! Congrats bro!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 14 2017, 10:34:54 AM
Hopefully this thing doesn't puke it's internals all over the road/track.
Maybe I should start collecting 4.8s & 5.3s. Or maybe I'll stick on in and save the LS1.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 14 2017, 10:45:20 AM
Should be fine Jeremy. Sloppy Mechanics put a grand to the back tire with the 6.0 and it held.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: reality on May 14 2017, 01:34:23 PM
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18424043_10213792524314155_1939176584495743047_n.jpg?oh=d06d26022c1c94224f9ec8db3f3683e9&oe=59BFC2BC)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 14 2017, 02:02:57 PM
Hell yeah - I'd rock that!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 14 2017, 02:50:12 PM
Get a 4.8L and let it eat.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 14 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Imagine the lag with all that plumbing
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 14 2017, 10:14:38 PM
Jeremy, get over to the LS! forum Mike is on, and have a look at the transmission and diff woes he's gone through. If I heard correctly from him the other nite, I think that latest transmission set him back 6 grand. He told me he had the car in OD on his way back from Napierville last fall and he heard a bang. A ring gear tooth had broke off...and meshed through the ring and pinion a couple of times...taking out his transmission as well. I'll find out the diff he now has in the car...if he hasn't mentioned it in the forum.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 15 2017, 11:00:39 AM
Brad I think he's running a 4l60e and a 12 bolt.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 16 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Yeah, you are going to need an TH400/80E and S60/9" to really have at it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 17 2017, 08:10:50 PM
Some goodies came today.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 18 2017, 08:03:31 PM
Waiting on the intercooler and turbo. Need to decide on injectors (probably 80lb/hr high-z simens-deka), fuel pump(s) and a couple other minor things.


I'll take some pics once I get this th400 off my work table.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 22 2017, 03:36:56 PM
I got busy and removed the nitrous kit this afternoon.


Mike ready to put a plate on the wagon?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 23 2017, 01:57:21 PM
This showed up today....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 23 2017, 01:59:29 PM
It's pretty damn big...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 23 2017, 09:25:02 PM
How big a convertor to spin it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 23 2017, 09:43:54 PM
Probably 3600 or so - for now a twin disc clutch.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 24 2017, 09:17:53 AM
that's pretty serious...need a waste gate the size of your head!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 24 2017, 09:29:04 AM
It's the size of my hand....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 24 2017, 04:51:59 PM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 25 2017, 12:29:35 PM
I finally got my letter from social security - and I got approved  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 25 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Is that like our Canada Pension Plan up here...but receiving it at an earlier age?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 25 2017, 05:11:33 PM
Pretty much - It would be like you claiming disability benefits from cpp.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 25 2017, 05:20:51 PM
If I live to be 60, I'm taking mine early.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 25 2017, 10:01:16 PM
I finally got my letter from social security - and I got approved  :rock:
Congrats! Can I get a loan?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 25 2017, 11:10:34 PM
Best to take the WG apart and check it over and lube it up.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 26 2017, 12:23:00 AM
that's great news, Jeremy.  I'm glad it's finally done
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 26 2017, 02:30:37 AM
That part is done - probably another 60-90 days before I see any money.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 02 2017, 01:13:54 PM
Drove the car to the doctors yesterday. Speed density is nice, it needs the hard acceleration and WOT tuned. That was the plan for the day but my two year old is sick and hanging out with me.


I sold my nitrous outlet LS1 nitrous plate for a decent amount, and that got me some Deka 80lb/hr injectors. Waiting for the n2o kit to sell and then I'll get some more stuff coming.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 02 2017, 02:29:17 PM
We will have to compare SD tuning notes. Are you doing OLSD or CLSD?

Also, toss the 80s in and start tuning it in ASAP - it'll save you some ass pain down the line from idle to 100kpa.  Do you have the injector data for them, if not I should (because I am using them in the Monte's 4.8L).
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 02 2017, 03:38:58 PM
Its olsd right now - after I'm happy with it, I'll try closed loop.
The plan was to get the 36s tuned and then swap over to the 80s. Im pretty sure I have data for them, gotta review some emails and threads.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 03 2017, 03:46:28 PM
Went to a car show just to hang out and got asked to participate. I came home with a plaque- and I didn't even dust the car off.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 03 2017, 04:20:51 PM
HPTuners VE Tuning 101 - verify that your maf failed. Mine wasn't I had a nice VE table but I was hitting 100% way to early and going 120%+


MAF codes were set to fail on 2nd error, not 1st. Now It's rich - time to start over
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 04 2017, 08:21:18 PM
I "trick" I have learned of is to zero out the entire MAF scale less the first cell.  In the first cell you put a number 5-18 g/s seems to be the going rate, so it has something to detect against as a failure.  This helps to ensure the MAF fails.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 04 2017, 08:48:32 PM
Cool - I'll add it to the list. Thanks
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 05 2017, 09:10:15 AM
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning/1830132-injector-data-sticky.html

Here is the data for the Deka 80s.  Cannot believe I didn't see this sticky before today?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 05 2017, 09:29:15 AM
Thanks Mike - I had that bookmarked but it wasn't stuck yet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 05 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Hooray! https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?65067-HP-Tuners-VCM-Suite-3-6-Released (https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?65067-HP-Tuners-VCM-Suite-3-6-Released)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 06 2017, 08:19:16 AM
Hooray! https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?65067-HP-Tuners-VCM-Suite-3-6-Released (https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?65067-HP-Tuners-VCM-Suite-3-6-Released)

Supports my F150 eco -interesting.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 06 2017, 11:19:53 AM
Segment swapping (ie. changing from a 4L60E to 4L80e) looks like it is just done with a drop down menu now.  I only got a few minutes to review the changes last night, but there is a lot of new parameters showing in the 0411 PCM now.

I would KILL for the guys at HP Tuners to start writing unique OSs for stand alone functionality that had WB integration for CL feedback - especially under PE/load.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 06 2017, 12:20:43 PM
Mike, I've tried the drop down and it did not work - I had to send a file in to be swapped. Closed loop would be cool, I'd really like a flex fuel custom os for the 411 pcm. Yes I know I can flash a Truck OS to the pcm, but that causes issues with licensing and cost credits.


Dave - yup we can void your warranty :D





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 06 2017, 03:48:21 PM
[quote author=nocooler
Dave - yup we can void your warranty :D


That is the only thing stopping me from loading up forscan and enabling a whack of options :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 06 2017, 06:50:56 PM
Forscan looks cool - they really don't say much about what it'll do but it does look like you can make some nice changes. It'd be fun to test drive one, make some changes and return it
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 07 2017, 02:14:14 PM
Fuck me this thing is even more stupid. I've got the VE table just about done. Right now it's a car you have to drive. It's going to be down right scary with a turbo.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 07 2017, 08:37:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUALaM5Y6bA&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUALaM5Y6bA&t=1s)


Have you seen that yet Mike? It shows me making 490-500hp which would be about right for drivetrain loss and my rwhp dyno. It's pretty slick.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 07 2017, 11:02:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUALaM5Y6bA&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUALaM5Y6bA&t=1s)


Have you seen that yet Mike? It shows me making 490-500hp which would be about right for drivetrain loss and my rwhp dyno. It's pretty slick.

Nope. Never. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 12 2017, 11:15:02 AM

My good friend Christian lost his battle with cancer last night.

RIP Christian - you will be missed brother.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 12 2017, 06:54:16 PM

My good friend Christian lost his battle with cancer last night.

RIP Christian - you will be missed brother.

Sorry to hear.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on June 12 2017, 07:22:42 PM
My condolences.  Very sad when someone goes before their time.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 12 2017, 09:46:38 PM
Horrible news, dude.  Stay strong.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 12 2017, 10:46:39 PM
Sad to hear... May your grief be short lived and may your heart wear a smile when fond memories come to mind
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 13 2017, 08:38:29 PM
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 14 2017, 11:16:53 AM
Looks like my windfall from Social Security hit my account this morning. So I can order some more parts as soon as the wife and I go thru the need/want list.


Viewing this afternoon and funeral tomorrow. I think the hardest thing will be seeing his son and daughter.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 14 2017, 10:03:49 PM
Jeremy, I went through the same thing you did with a close friend of mine that passed away a few years back. I held it together at the viewing and church in front his two teenage children...but broke down in my truck after it was over.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 18 2017, 08:17:57 PM
Debating if I'm going to buy a dual 450 setup or make my own. 99% it's going to get -8 ptfe feed and return. Maybe a -6 return but it'd only save a few dollars at this point. 


Still in the air about what I'm going to do with the pcm as well. I can go 2bar SD with flexfuel on the stock 411pcm, 3bar flex fuel with a p59 or  MS3pro/Efi source gold box. Holley is pretty much out due to cost, but is the only system that splits the engine/injectors/coils, so If I grab a gen IV 58x engine - you swap the engine harness rather than the whole harness. And their closed looping WOT fueling is bad ass. I like the idea of all the features I'd gain, and when you figure in the price of a good boost controller I'm over half way there.


Or I could say piss on it and put a razors kit on it, and hit it with windshield washer fluid until it pukes.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 18 2017, 08:59:32 PM
The previous paragraph may as well be in hieroglyphics for what I can understand of it. The last sentence about windshield washer fluid is right up my alley.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 18 2017, 09:49:25 PM
Sorry LSx talk and I was medicated.


I can
use the stock pcm with 3bar os - and flash it every fill up to adjust for alcohol content 30psi
use the stock pcm and load a flex fuel tune to it - but it'll be limited to 15 psi
upgrade to a newer pcm and load flex fuel tune and be limited to 30 psi
or go aftermarket and open options like, boost by speed/gear, traction control, boost control, anti-lag & rolling anti-lag.


I see little point of gasoline these days, flex fuel will save a lot of headaches and e85 will open up the tuning window a bit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 18 2017, 11:30:59 PM
I'd go MegaSquirt - much more versatile than a stock PCM based option.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 19 2017, 07:40:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHtxXUCXhU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHtxXUCXhU4)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 19 2017, 02:53:35 PM
Got the A/C discharged this afternoon and removed from the car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on June 20 2017, 03:36:30 PM
You wouldn't do that if you lived down here and planned to drive it in the summer.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 23 2017, 11:21:14 AM
Lots of littles came in.


1/2npt tap/drill
heat wrap
turbo blanket


Still need a bunch of stuff, but my body has been pretty pissed off lately and I'm doing what I can to stay out of ER for pain control.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 25 2017, 08:15:41 PM
Wife ended up taking me to ER yesterday. I'm sick and tired of getting treated like a junky when I need help. I ended up refusing medical treatment, as they only would give me half of what it takes to get my pain under control and were complete assholes about the whole ordeal. My wife called my doctor and he called in a prescription for me exactly what I needed, no questions asked and today I fell much better.


Time to start looking at other options, I've been holding back hoping things would improve over time - like I've been told by many other survivors.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 26 2017, 04:49:56 PM
Got out and tinkered around today. Car is in the air, and I wrapped the hotside. Next up will probably be dropping the pan and tapping it for the return line. It's a pain in the ass but it's got to be done.


My brothers co worker has a supercharged roush stage 27 mustang and he's talking smack, it's the 700whp setting. At 650whp he was still .5 to slow for me N/A -so I doubt things will have changed much. The car might have to go out N/A one more time. It's a little lighter now that the a/c and n2o crap is gone.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 26 2017, 05:18:10 PM
Jeremy, post some pics if you get the time. The bro do any upgrades to his car?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 26 2017, 08:08:12 PM
My bro is still working on the 351w/c6 swap into his white mustang. It'll get a turbo too. He somehow ran the blue car out of oil, and thrashed the bottom end, which sucks because he sold it to my dad - and it wasn't his when he broke it.


I'll get some pics up tomorrow - phone is damn near dead and doesn't want to sync photos.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 27 2017, 10:14:57 AM
Here are the pics...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 27 2017, 10:38:15 AM
Bye-bye AC. :(
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 27 2017, 11:13:53 AM
Don't get me wrong Mike, it was a hard decision, but I couldn't double the budget to keep it.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 27 2017, 11:39:08 AM
I guess you can still do 70*C and 70mph. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 30 2017, 11:27:00 AM
Exhaust is off and headers are out. Calling it a day. I'm tired of being soaked with sweat.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 06 2017, 10:31:43 PM
Boxes and boxes of parts showing up. Still need a lot of nickel and dime stuff. Still up in the air on the cam, it's got 8* of overlap - I might just run it and see how it does. 75% sure I don't want to spent the money for an ecu right now. 900lph of fuel pumps showed up today!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 06 2017, 10:36:21 PM
WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS! WE WANT PICS!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 07 2017, 11:45:19 AM
Working on something for you Brad. Hold your horses!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 07 2017, 12:00:46 PM
https://youtu.be/SLN7ydjnZyw


Let me know what you think


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 07 2017, 05:30:14 PM
What type of hose is that from the pumps up to the distribution block?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 07 2017, 05:44:10 PM
It's just a new design from the old rubber hose. Racetronix and others carry it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 07 2017, 06:51:51 PM
8* of overlap should work out okay.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 07 2017, 11:33:31 PM
https://youtu.be/SLN7ydjnZyw


Let me know what you think

'I know Steve Wood hates these'. LOL!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 09 2017, 11:32:08 AM
 :rock: :rock: :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2017, 03:56:44 PM
https://youtu.be/CMPVOS0o_TU

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 10 2017, 04:10:57 PM
We both need a hoist.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2017, 04:53:37 PM
That would make everything so much easier.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 10 2017, 09:14:49 PM
Sticking with the manual? (Pun intended)

Keep plugging away!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2017, 10:12:19 PM
For now Mike. I'm hoping that being in better shape helps with everything. I'm down 50lbs from last year, and feeling better. I'm still going to be sore after a day of racing, I just hope I'm not down for 3-4 days afterwards.


Probably just going to put the 4.11's back in a spin the bitch as high as the turbine will let me. @ 6800 they are good for 137mph - might as well set that as the 1st goal.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 14 2017, 04:02:25 PM
No progress to report, I've been working on the honey do list. Got to keep the wife happy.
We have been looking for a new daily driver for me. The 03 escape I'm driving is just about dead. We have narrowed it down to a 2017 Ford Escape se awd and Honda CRV lx awd. The Honda is the responsible decision but the ford is more fun to drive, the 2.0 turbo puts out 245/270. The crv has a cvt and it feels like a rubber band. The crv has a turbo option but you have to go to a higher trim level to get it, and you get all of Honda "safety" crap - lane assist, adaptive cruise and so on. The turbo is quicker but the software seems to delay throttle input to smooth things out and improve fuel economy. Still up in the air - the escape puts a smile my face driving - but I know the Honda is just a better vehicle. Ford has some good incentives and Honda doesn't have any.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 14 2017, 09:32:18 PM
No progress to report, I've been working on the honey do list. Got to keep the wife happy.
We have been looking for a new daily driver for me. The 03 escape I'm driving is just about dead. We have narrowed it down to a 2017 Ford Escape se awd and Honda CRV lx awd. The Honda is the responsible decision but the ford is more fun to drive, the 2.0 turbo puts out 245/270. The crv has a cvt and it feels like a rubber band. The crv has a turbo option but you have to go to a higher trim level to get it, and you get all of Honda "safety" crap - lane assist, adaptive cruise and so on. The turbo is quicker but the software seems to delay throttle input to smooth things out and improve fuel economy. Still up in the air - the escape puts a smile my face driving - but I know the Honda is just a better vehicle. Ford has some good incentives and Honda doesn't have any.
In a Mr. Miaga voice, " You must find balance no cooler-son!"
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 14 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Raptor........ .....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on July 15 2017, 09:24:20 AM
If the ford is more fun I don't even see why you would consider the other one. Why would you add a non fun vehicle you would dread driving?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 19 2017, 08:51:24 AM
We have a '17 AWD that replaced the Rendezvous. It was largely a price and dealer decision but we enjoy driving it.
We had to go one trim level up from base to get the backup warning (vs just cam)that the previous CXL had. She likes the car finder and gas gauge on the phone.
I do hope the 18yrs of longevity I got out of the last F150 pickup holds true now that all our eggs are in the ecoboost basket. They both fly  :icon_eyes: :D :D
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 21 2017, 12:08:44 PM
https://youtu.be/__y-Lh2G09Q
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 21 2017, 12:43:29 PM
Keep the vids coming!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 23 2017, 11:17:55 AM
Going to buy an aluminum 5.3 aka L33. $250 - the guy says it had metal in the oil and 20psi of oil pressure. Typical issues for these engines with cylinder deactivation. Probably ate a lifter. The heads are worth the price alone - 799 casting. Always need spare parts.

Wife and I are still up in the air about a new vehicle for me. if I could only find a base raptor....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 23 2017, 06:54:21 PM
And it appears it sold to someone else...

I like this:
http://www.patmillikenford.com/new/Ford/2017-Ford-F-150-for-sale-Redford-Detroit-Michigan-bd59d3900a0e0aea69b2f2f25a73a896.htm?searchDepth=1:177 (http://www.patmillikenford.com/new/Ford/2017-Ford-F-150-for-sale-Redford-Detroit-Michigan-bd59d3900a0e0aea69b2f2f25a73a896.htm?searchDepth=1:177)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 24 2017, 04:21:57 PM
https://youtu.be/e5NKYnvFmaA


busy day - I also got the nose cap off the car too. Hopefully I'll be able to shove the intercooler in tomorrow.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 27 2017, 04:01:34 PM
Another update - still have a bunch of stuff to do.

https://youtu.be/KtS_XxXqDjM
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 27 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Damn Jeremy...that's a well thot out and clean install.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 27 2017, 05:29:38 PM
Thanks Brad luckily enough of these kits have been installed and proven. Following build threads over the last few years helps, I've been able to see what works, what doesn't.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 27 2017, 10:25:48 PM
Looks like you are keeping at it.  Good work!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 30 2017, 08:25:44 PM
I spent some time this afternoon removing and replacing most of the dried out tape on the harness. Got everything plugged in and then noticed the injector clips on the table. Luckily I was able to get them installed with the wiring all plugged in and with the intake in the car.

Tomorrow I'm going to layout the fuel system so I can get lines ordered. I need to decide on what boost gauge and air filter I'm going to go with.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 30 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Mine has the boost and vacuum. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone? Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 30 2017, 09:30:50 PM
Yeah mine will be vacuum/boost
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 31 2017, 08:54:05 AM
If you can float it: https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/avm-30-4350/overview/ (https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/avm-30-4350/overview/)

It is cheaper on Amazon.com

I am not running gauges in the Monte - just a small tablet connected to either the HP Tuners or and OBD II dongle/app.  No sense in spending extra money these days (says the guy who spent a grand on his SpeedHut gauges... LOL).
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on July 31 2017, 09:06:29 AM
I bought one of those dongle things off eBay for like five bucks shipped. It works good on the Roadmaster with a little tablet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 02 2017, 09:08:03 PM
Im seriously considering this- http://www.hybrid-power.com/_p/prd1/2896339861/product/new-hdi-electronic-boost-controller-ebc-r-evo (http://www.hybrid-power.com/_p/prd1/2896339861/product/new-hdi-electronic-boost-controller-ebc-r-evo) cheap electronic closed loop controller. I've seen lots of positive reviews. I was going to use a mac valve with a compressor regulator but this should fit the bill @140 usd
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 03 2017, 02:43:24 PM
Too bad you cannot set a curve to aid with spool.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 03 2017, 07:56:34 PM
Yeah I'd like full control like an eboost2, ams500, boost leash, but this will be a start. I doubt it's going to have very much lag.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 06 2017, 01:44:08 PM
https://ldperformance.co.uk/product/electronic-boost-controller/


found that one for $169 on ebay - I might go that route instead. I like the overboost protection and the ability wet the start boost aiding in spool up...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 07 2017, 08:23:59 PM
I'll try to make a video in the couple days. I've been making some decent progress on the little stuff. Other than a belt, oil, power steering fluid, brake fluid, and coolant - I should have everything I need, ordered and on the way.


I'm have I feeling I need to check out the rocker trunion bearings, and replace them with a bushing style.


Exhaust is going to be a pain in the ass. I'll need to borrow dads welder, as mine is pretty much worthless. I ended up with a mess on IAT sensor bung, so it got ground and epoxied.   
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 08 2017, 02:01:52 PM
https://youtu.be/XMc9t6r6vm4



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 08 2017, 09:22:01 PM
Damn Jeremy...looks like all that stuff grew there. Once again...well thot out. Keep the vids comin'.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 08 2017, 09:31:42 PM
Yes, go Straub.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 10 2017, 10:09:16 PM
I was going to go cheap china crap to save some of the budget, then decided they all looked like crap and I wanted a nice gauge.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on August 10 2017, 11:38:23 PM
I have that exact same guage in my limited. Love the auto meters
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 11 2017, 12:16:39 PM
Now you gotta make those vroom vroom and turbo-whistle noises.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 11 2017, 04:32:23 PM
I thought I had the bumper cover fitting, but I spent some time today tweaking it. While it fits nice the v-band for the box is very close. I'm going to play with the piping a little and see if I can gain some clearance, or need to keep going at the bumper cover. I need to test the new gear I put in the headlamp gearbox - plastic gear on metal, wtf was GM thinking? Ah well its got an aluminum gear in it now. Of course I only did the drivers side so, the passenger one will probably fail now.

And yes, I was making 2-step noises, and some turbo noises yesterday.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 11 2017, 06:36:01 PM
I'm a sucker for the burgundy/wine colour.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 14 2017, 07:38:16 PM
Nose is on.



Have some wiring, fuel pump/lines, boost controller/gauge, vacuum lines, new plugs, find a belt, and then I should be close to flashing a 2bar tune to this thing and lighting it off.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 15 2017, 10:34:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2017, 10:56:43 AM
Says unavailable Mike
So I checked on the rocker trunnions after everyone has started a panic on ls1notech - and the one I checked looked fine. I'm going to run them another season.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2017, 11:11:36 AM
Nevermind it came up - I'm waiting on fuel lines. The rest of the stuff I'm working on an hour here and hour there. I can't push myself to hard or I'll pay for it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 15 2017, 01:31:47 PM
Nevermind it came up - I'm waiting on fuel lines. The rest of the stuff I'm working on an hour here and hour there. I can't push myself to hard or I'll pay for it.

Jeremy...put yourself in a retirement mindset like I have. There's always tomorrow.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2017, 04:46:09 PM
Brad - I pretty much have to do that. I set a 1.5hr timer on my phone and once it goes off I'm done. It seems to be working out good, I make notable progress and it keeps my pain to a tolerable level. I can push through and work longer but that means I'm not going to be able to doing anything for the next few days, and It's just not worth it. It's nice to have a project to tinker on
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 19 2017, 03:30:08 PM
I'll put up a video next week, I need to watch the last one and figure out what I've done since then.

Here is a teaser for now.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 22 2017, 12:30:17 PM
https://youtu.be/isUaPQT7CCo


as promised
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 22 2017, 01:20:14 PM
I really like using these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-10mm-3-8-Fuel-Non-Return-One-Way-Check-Valve-Petrol-Diesel-Marine-Aluminum-/152667444060?hash=item238bb0535c:g:UmkAAOSwD~xZlb4p&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-10mm-3-8-Fuel-Non-Return-One-Way-Check-Valve-Petrol-Diesel-Marine-Aluminum-/152667444060?hash=item238bb0535c:g:UmkAAOSwD~xZlb4p&vxp=mtr)

I have them on the TBSS' catch can set up.  The way I set it up it is always either pulling vacuum from the filter (compressor inlet) or the valve cover.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 22 2017, 01:44:16 PM
Keep at it Jeremy! Lookin' good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 22 2017, 01:47:01 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Air-Ride-Suspension-Chrome-Check-Valve-3-8-npt-Female-to-3-8-npt-Male-Brass-/122259102859?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.com/itm/Air-Ride-Suspension-Chrome-Check-Valve-3-8-npt-Female-to-3-8-npt-Male-Brass-/122259102859?nav=SEARCH)

I looked at those Mike, but ended up with the one I linked. My vacuum block was supposed to be 3/8 npt, but it's -8an oring - so plans had to change
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2017, 04:51:13 PM
Oooh... fancy!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2017, 11:30:05 AM
My brother got married on Saturday. Daycare is closed this week and my wife took vacation, it's going to be a long week. The boys are a handful to say the least!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 31 2017, 03:08:25 PM
Fans are wired - just need to wire the relay triggers
Flex fuel sensor is wired and the pressure transducer is wired to the egr input on the pcm.
List is getting shorter.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 31 2017, 08:16:07 PM
Keep at 'er!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 01 2017, 05:18:06 PM
Got a bunch of small stuff done today. More like pain in the ass, had the console out and the carpet up. Move the wbo2 sensor lead from a rubber plugged hole in the floor to the shifter hole. While I did that I ran the vacuum/boost lines for the boost gauge and controller and the solenoid wire for the boost controller.

I got the interior back together, just need to decide where the boost controller is going to live.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 01 2017, 10:55:18 PM
Jeremy...you woulda cracked the 9's without even trying tonite with the air here. Keep it up...you're almost there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 02 2017, 10:17:32 AM
 :rofl:
Maybe someday - it'll take quite a bit of work to get there, pos will probably run 15s 1st time out!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 02 2017, 10:53:22 AM
:rofl:
Maybe someday - it'll take quite a bit of work to get there, pos will probably run 15s 1st time out!

I call bullshit...lol! You're to good at this. I'll say 10.5...10.2... and then 9.x
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 06 2017, 04:01:38 PM
Part of the feed line got upgraded to -10 hose, about 10ft of it  :rock: 


With any luck I might be able to make some progress soon
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 07 2017, 07:36:28 AM
Take your time Jeremy...there's always tomorrow.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 13 2017, 06:22:28 PM
Fuel lines showed up today!  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 13 2017, 06:27:39 PM
-8 vs -10.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 13 2017, 07:36:52 PM
Those will get the job done.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 14 2017, 06:14:32 PM
Looks like a measured a little on the long side atleast for the ones under the hood, but they still fit. Hopefully I'll get to mess with it tomorrow. The -10 is going to be tight between the body and tank, and I'm sure the silicone abrasion and heat shield on the outside will complicate it a little more.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 19 2017, 06:48:31 PM
Got the lines and the pump installed today. Nothing went the way they should have, but it came together in the end.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 19 2017, 07:33:20 PM
Mulling over getting Jacks lines from Racetronix and going to a bigger pump next year. Heard they're to long. How much you got left to fire it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 19 2017, 08:16:23 PM
Needs coolant, oil +primed, alternator and belt installed, plugs/wires, tune for 2bar, and some minor wiring: gauge lights, boost controller, and fan triggers, fuel pump hotwire.


Then it needs the brakes bleed, exhaust, and 4.11's installed. Goal right now is just to fire it. Some thump and turbo whistle will motivate me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 19 2017, 08:37:20 PM
When's your track close?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 19 2017, 09:00:01 PM
End of October. Might not make it this year. I'd rather take the time to get it shorted out, rather than chase my ass at the track
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 19 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Leave it till spring.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 19 2017, 09:39:37 PM
A smart man once told me to take the time and do it right the first time or you'll have to make the time to do it right the second go around.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on September 20 2017, 11:39:52 AM
Keep at it, it'll be over before you know it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 29 2017, 03:18:15 PM
I'll just leave this here.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 29 2017, 04:35:26 PM
Zip ties baby!  Put it wherever you want to
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 30 2017, 01:51:59 PM
It lived momentarily. Fired up on the 1st try. Had a coolant leak from the steam vent tube under the intake, so I went back to the new style tube. Intake is back on but I've got a bunch of wires to hook up. Calling it a day.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 01 2017, 08:40:35 AM
Take your time.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 02 2017, 11:23:58 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 02 2017, 02:35:57 PM
https://youtu.be/MZTQajVB0RE


V8 turbo sounds!




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 02 2017, 04:33:43 PM
Sounds good!
Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on October 02 2017, 06:12:52 PM
Sick!


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Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 02 2017, 06:28:06 PM
Nice!  Good feeling to get a little pay off
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 03 2017, 02:07:08 PM
Boost controller must have a short, pops the fuse immediately. Wiring is correct. Pretty easy power, ground, trigger and the solenoid just plugs in. Hopefully they'll replace it or refund.

I was hoping to have the interior put back together today - that's not going to happen
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Boost controller works some dumb ass pinched the solenoid wire under the intake.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 04 2017, 05:29:18 PM
We've all been there
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 04 2017, 08:34:51 PM
Fuckin' eh! Very happy for you.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2017, 08:49:20 PM
I'm debating on a dump tube for the wastegate. Right now it dumps in front of the engine and I figure get as much heat out as possible, no reason not to send it under the car, out the fender or out the hood.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 04 2017, 09:00:17 PM
Fender dump it and have it shoot flames.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 05 2017, 08:02:47 AM
I'm debating on a dump tube for the wastegate. Right now it dumps in front of the engine and I figure get as much heat out as possible, no reason not to send it under the car, out the fender or out the hood.

Where's the easiest exit point?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 06 2017, 11:57:34 AM
Easiest is to leave it alone. Car is finally on all 4 tires. Exhaust and tune are the last steps.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 16 2017, 03:43:21 PM
Planned on spending all day tuning. But after I filled the tank, the gas gauge went down. I pulled the pump, the float was just hung up apparently. I did re-route the fuel feed line, and that left me with a foot extra, so I spent some time coming up with some clever routing and it works for now. When I have more time, it'll be on the list.


I need to go back and redo the timing table, denmah's doesn't have enough timing to get this cam over the 1500-2000rpm hump.


Getting there. I didn't plan on being under the car all day....but it happens. I have a couple more things to tweak and then this whistle monster will be on its way.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 16 2017, 08:25:38 PM
Keep at it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on October 17 2017, 08:23:20 AM
Still waiting. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 27 2017, 12:25:53 PM
Washed it yesterday. Cold weather is inbound. I ordered a cover for it. I'm going to order one of these too - http://www.rhinoshelters.com/vehicle-storage-protection/41-car-pocket.html (http://www.rhinoshelters.com/vehicle-storage-protection/41-car-pocket.html) as it will be stored at my Dad's recently purchased man-land property. He's got a nice 2 car garage, huge shop, and a odd sized garage/shed. I don't know how the critters are out there and don't want to take a chance.


Next year issues:
WBo2 is acting funny. I'm going to try and re-calibrate, and get some more tube after it to see if it helps. Probably needs replaced as it's 7 years old!
I'm still not 100% happy with the fuel line lay out, and I'm not sure I like the vacuum block location.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 27 2017, 01:00:14 PM
Jeremy...keep a fire extinguisher at the ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbjzEOZtMs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbjzEOZtMs)

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 27 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Yeah you can use various gasses to test them. I know propane works...


I had a pretty good neurology appointment on Monday. With any luck they hope to have my pain under better control in the near future.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 27 2017, 05:53:13 PM
Good to hear!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 07 2018, 12:28:49 PM
What a year so far: I've got another nerve block scheduled for tomorrow, Monday my dog Teddy goes in to have his knee repaired. Maybe I should have just left the damn car alone.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on February 07 2018, 05:17:48 PM
I bet the car gives you some good distraction which sounds like you could use.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on February 08 2018, 04:21:18 PM
What a year so far: I've got another nerve block scheduled for tomorrow, Monday my dog Teddy goes in to have his knee repaired. Maybe I should have just left the damn car alone.

Hey I have something in common with your dog!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 08 2018, 10:15:52 PM
I hope that's all Mike!  :rofl:



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on February 09 2018, 10:02:05 AM
Man that sucks!  Hope recovery is fast for both of you
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on February 09 2018, 12:46:49 PM
I hope that's all Mike!  :rofl:

Mission accomplished. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 26 2018, 01:00:29 PM
I went ahead and ordered some fuel rails from racetronix - might as well finish the fuel system.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on February 26 2018, 10:08:29 PM
Get thing going man!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2018, 05:38:34 PM
Well I did it - I scheduled a "trial" of a spinal cord stimulation device. It should cover some of my pain, hoping it might be enough to allow me to enjoy things a little more.


Weather usually sucks until May anyways.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 21 2018, 08:14:07 PM
Let's hope that moderates the pain and makes life more livable!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 22 2018, 10:49:26 AM
Having lived 3 years with a pars interarticular is fracture.  I feel your pain brother. Anything that might help, do it.  I'll never forget waking up from surgery in the recovery room.  Even all doped up from the anesthesia, I felt like a new man.  Good luck!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on March 22 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Car sounds amazing!  Should be a fun ride! :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on March 26 2018, 02:22:55 PM
Science does wonderful things.  Be strong.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 11 2018, 05:29:20 PM
No news on the car. With any luck within the next couple weeks I’ll be going to have surgery to permanently install a spinal cord stimulator. The trial went well, other than them shoving a lead thru my spinal canal. Looks like I’ll be down for a couple months but other side I should be more comfortable.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 11 2018, 06:10:10 PM
being more comfortable will be a life changer!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 11 2018, 08:57:35 PM
Good to hear.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 12 2018, 12:32:32 AM
Glad to hear. Being in constant pain is under rated by those who have never been in pain. You got this!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 31 2018, 02:02:43 PM
Surgery was yesterday and all went well.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 31 2018, 02:16:02 PM
Good deal! I hope it provides you with some significant relief
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 31 2018, 05:30:31 PM
Hope you're out bangin' gears soon!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on May 31 2018, 08:47:26 PM
Nice.  Here's to a quick recovery!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 01 2018, 11:25:29 AM
Thanks everyone. Today is already better than yesterday.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on June 01 2018, 01:24:13 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling better, hopefully everyday you continue to get better.

Take care,
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on June 01 2018, 01:55:02 PM
speedy Recovery!!!

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 01 2018, 08:15:17 PM
Thanks everyone. Today is already better than yesterday.

What? They gave you an accidental penis enlargement too?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 01 2018, 09:13:02 PM
Jeremy Wood?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 02 2018, 07:36:51 PM
Maybe the control unit they buried in my right ass cheek counts as a Brazilian but lift, but my wife tells me my ass is still flat.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 03 2018, 10:32:27 PM
Glad you are on the road to recovery and back behind the wheel
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 06 2018, 11:05:10 AM
Since I’ve had some downtime I’ve done some more research on using a flex fuel enabled tune on a stock pcm. And my findings are similar with my friends - while possible, right now I’m just going to sit buy and watch. I could gamble and license the sloppy mechanics p01 flexfuel tune and flash it to my pcm, but there are enough minor issues that it become a major pain in the ass. From what we can find it takes at least 3 software packages to flex fuel enable my pcm without these issues. There is one tuner that has figured out how to do it in a hex editor, but he’ll only do it if he tunes your car - which is understandable .

So for now, I’m going to put together a Arduino powered ethanol content measuring system. Looks like for under $40, I can get the info from the flex fuel sensor and display and/or send it to the logger. The idea will be base tune, then setup a tune for various content levels, like every 5%. All the files will be the same execept for the stoich afr. It’ll be a fill it up, drive, and if it varies 5% reflash. It’ll be a pain, but worth it to run E.

I’m 99% sure my boost controller is Arduino powered as well. So if I get bored I might be able to combine the units and add other inputs. That could open up some interesting stuff.

On the other hand my back feels like someone drove s splitting wedge in my spine. But I’m pretty good otherwise. I’ll be happy to touch my toes again.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 06 2018, 12:09:51 PM

Glad to hear the "I'm pretty good otherwise".

Something like a stack of proms and a thumbwheel switch- don't imagine that exists for this PCM.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 06 2018, 12:35:56 PM
There are dual chip/tune setups but it's not a cheap piece.


Ideally HPtuners would make a flexfuel os ready to go, but I don't think the demand is there (yet). I wish I had more of an electrical engineer background with some coding skills. But it was never really needed for my IT administration roles. I guess I have time to learn but programming doesn't really excite me.


I could say fuck it and order a microsquirt, cut up a stock pcm for the output header, and make a patch harness. That'd give me flex fuel, boost control - but it'd be batch fire, waste spark (not a big deal), no IAC, and I'd be out of I/O. I want to see how my brothers mustang works out with the micro. That car is a whole other story, it's still in operation get running as right as a ford can get!



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 06 2018, 12:57:24 PM
I just wish someone sold E85 close to me.  William is running mid nines on it and I need a new alky set up.  Be a lot cheaper to convert than buy a new system.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on June 06 2018, 02:56:50 PM
E85 would be really really nice!  I wonder how the car would run when the weather starts getting cold?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 06 2018, 03:25:04 PM
Here is the equivalence ratio table I'll be using to get started.


http://gulfracingfuels.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/79c34a87.jpg (http://gulfracingfuels.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/79c34a87.jpg)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 06 2018, 04:39:05 PM
E85 is damn near detonation proof...easier to tune...and safer than something going wrong with the alky kit at WOT. Alky kit is out of my car. Gonna run Erics 94 street chip with 20 lbs of fuel in it...and toss Erics 112 race chip in it at the track. I can have the tank drained in 5 minutes. I got it down to a science.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 06 2018, 04:47:44 PM
I think E85 is considered un Amurican out here in oil country.  Nearest race fuel is 90 miles away if they still sell it.  I'm with you on alky kits but I don't see a choice.  Price by the barrel appears to be ridiculous for anything.  I think I am screwed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 06 2018, 05:06:00 PM
You're between a rock and a hard place. I'd be replacing the alky pump once a year...and solder every effen connection.

My car rarely goes into boost on the street...belie ve it or not...so Erics street chip is all I need. I cruise the car...and that's it. When I'm at the track...all hell breaks loose. On a race day I park up at the 1/4 mile marker by myself and talk very little to anyone. I don't like being distracted. The Armdrop events are fun and relaxing. On a race day...leave me alone. I'm Jekyll and Hyde.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 06 2018, 05:26:40 PM
For sure, everything is soldered.

Most good racers I know have at least two personalities
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 06 2018, 10:26:06 PM
Proooopane. ;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 01:25:17 PM
I’ve been working on my arduino powered ethanol content gauge. By far the worst part has been getting the lcd to display. The display I bought requires 7 wires for connecting then 3 for the backlight. Got it all soldered up and was testing and I forgot to heatshrink a resistor, and of course it’s connected to 5v with a ground next to it. I moved the wires while testing and it all went dead.

I’ve got another arduino and 2 different displays coming to play with. These are both analog displays and only require 4 wires. Should save some time.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 05 2018, 01:42:56 PM
7 wires... HD44780 type character display or a surplus cell phone unit?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 01:52:55 PM
1602 lcd without the i2c module.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 01:53:57 PM
So yes HD44780 type
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 05 2018, 02:01:13 PM
Any chance you two guys could dumb this down?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 02:17:36 PM
Brad
Arduino is a microcontrolle r. It's fully programmable with analog and digital inputs/outputs. So if you can wire it and program it, you can do damn near anything with one. There is one project doing batchfire/waste spark on a 4 cylinder car. All out of a $10 board.


Basically mine is going to read the gm flex fuel content sensor, send the values to a display (like a gauge), and possibly convert the signal (hz to volts) and spit out a 0-5v to my logger.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 05 2018, 03:11:56 PM
THAT's better. Now...how bout a pic or a link of this gizmo.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 05 2018, 03:47:27 PM
The 128x32 OLED displays are sexy, just a couple of bucks on Aliexp and there are a few libraries around...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 05 2018, 03:56:37 PM
The 128x32 OLED displays are sexy, just a couple of bucks on Aliexp and there are a few libraries around...

Oled and Alixep. Are those the Russians the Leafs signed from the KHL?




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 03:56:53 PM
How about this?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 05 2018, 04:03:17 PM
We like pics!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 04:07:21 PM
https://www.arduino.cc/ (https://www.arduino.cc/)


nerd yourself out Brad!


Dave I have a 128x64 oled and another 1602 coming. I ordered from amazon as I want them now. I think the oled will tuck away nicely. 32 would have been better. Maybe version 5.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 05 2018, 04:16:46 PM
I have these to install as well! Bazooka 6.5" dvc subs to replace the factory sail panel subs.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 05 2018, 04:19:00 PM
Now yer' talkin'!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 05 2018, 11:00:42 PM
Not only pics but NERD pics :)  Arduinos are great, pretty sure I don't miss assembler at all :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 07 2018, 06:24:13 PM
New thingabobs showed up today. Plugged it in, flashed it, and it started working. I like the little disaplay. I’ll have to move the characters around on screen but that seems pretty easy.
Pics soon.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 07 2018, 07:52:46 PM
Cartoon characters?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 09 2018, 11:51:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qotr5KhvaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qotr5KhvaQ)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 09 2018, 02:15:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qotr5KhvaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qotr5KhvaQ)
Nice,I like, thinkin there might be a double size font for it
( You Know, for Steve :o  )
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 09 2018, 02:31:34 PM
let's put all that display on an android tablet!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 09 2018, 02:41:31 PM
Steve may have something, ESP8266 web server?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 09 2018, 03:03:14 PM
There is code for blue tooth to android for this application already!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 17 2018, 04:49:38 PM
This showed up today. USA sourced core, and ground/machined in the USA and it wasn't $400. It retails for $249 is on sale and I had a gift card, I can totally do $200 for a cam, $400 hurts, and that's why I held off until now.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 18 2018, 09:25:12 AM
Summit racing pro ls stage 2 turbo cam
226/230 .600/.575 113+4

Summit got a new cam guy, he scrapped all of their ls cams and started over. http://www.onallcylinders.com/2018/07/06/parts-bin-summit-racing-pro-ls-cams/ (http://www.onallcylinders.com/2018/07/06/parts-bin-summit-racing-pro-ls-cams/)

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 19 2018, 11:09:35 AM
They are going to drive costs way down. That cam is almost identical to the one I have sitting on the shelf for my Turdbo 4.8L.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 21 2018, 04:03:22 PM
I wish I could find a cam card for the ljms stage 2 to compare it. The sloppy stage 2 is pretty close as well.

I got released from most restrictions Wednesday. Overall the pain is much more tolerable so far.

I spent Thursday and Friday detailing the crv. Wash, apply iron-x, wash, clay bar, wash, clear coat sealant, top coat of wax. It’s a lot of work, but now that it’s done I won’t have to worry about not washing it until next year. It’s about due for it’s first oil change too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 21 2018, 05:36:49 PM
that is good.  I am glad the surgery provided some relief!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 23 2018, 04:00:20 PM
I just plugged this: https://www.liljohnsmotorsports.com/stage-ii-turbo-cam-226-231-605-598-113-4.html (https://www.liljohnsmotorsports.com/stage-ii-turbo-cam-226-231-605-598-113-4.html)

Into this: https://mgispeedware.com/camshaft-calculator/ (https://mgispeedware.com/camshaft-calculator/)

And got this:

Exhaust Open: 53BBDC
Exhaust Centerline: 117BTDC
Exhaust Close: 2BTDC
Intake Open: 4BTDC
Intake Centerline: 109ATDC
Intake Close: 42ABDC
Exhaust Area: 84.0
Intake Area: 83.1
Exhaust/Intake Area Ratio: 1.0 : 1.0
Overlap: 2
Overlap Area: 0.1
Overlap/Total Area: 0.1%
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on July 23 2018, 04:00:41 PM
PS. Glad to hear things are looking up for you!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 23 2018, 04:36:52 PM
Thanks Mike!


The numbers at .050 are close, but that's just one data point on the lobe. I guess I could look up the comp lobes if they aren't secret squirrel shit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2018, 05:00:37 PM
I’m working on a deal swapping my fast intake for a l33. L33 is the aluminum high output 5.3, it’s has the better rods, 24x crank reluctor and 1x cam so it’s a plug and play swap “race engine” as some of the ls guys call it. 800rwhp is not uncommon for these short blocks. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 27 2018, 09:46:10 AM
Not many updates. Back is coming around with therapy. Last week I stepped down my fentanyl dose, withdrawl sucks!

Got the rest of the parts for the fuel system. I was supposed to pick a L33 shortblock yesterday, but things came up - maybe next weekend.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 27 2018, 12:50:40 PM
Got one hose end put together, feels like someone kicked me between the shoulders. Guess it’s not time to go get the car yet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 27 2018, 02:06:16 PM
look on the plus side...how far you have come!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on August 27 2018, 10:47:45 PM
You got this!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 03 2018, 06:50:53 PM
Drove to Grand Rapids today to swap for the aluminum 5.3. It’s nice, a little carbon on the pistons, still has a nice cross hatch, no ridge at the top of the cylinders, and the front cam bearing isn’t trashed.

I was a little nervous about putting it in the crv but a tarp and cardboard contained the mess.

The guy I got it from had a nice 300zx with ls t56 swap.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 06 2018, 01:50:38 PM
Pics
Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on September 06 2018, 09:28:05 PM
Hey where did the extra holes come from 😂


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Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 07 2018, 07:30:09 PM
You can make some pretty serious power with that
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 07 2018, 07:42:37 PM
That’s the plan!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on September 08 2018, 09:26:57 AM

I’m 99% sure my boost controller is Arduino powered as well. So if I get bored I might be able to combine the units and add other inputs.
I missed this earlier. What "brand" of boost controller do you use?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 08 2018, 10:19:49 AM
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Boost-Controller-LDperformance-OLED-gauge-and-3-port-Solenoid-/323310054532

It’s this one.....don’t know if it works or if it’s a pos yet...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on September 08 2018, 01:33:31 PM
How does it work? I mean like you hook up the power and the vac/boost line and I guess it controls a waste gate? I see a knob, I guess to adjust it?


I'm learning, sorry it sounds like a scammer post. I'll try to get up to speed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on September 08 2018, 02:02:27 PM
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Boost-Controller-LDperformance-OLED-gauge-and-3-port-Solenoid-/323310054532 (https://m.ebay.com/itm/Electronic-Boost-Controller-LDperformance-OLED-gauge-and-3-port-Solenoid-/323310054532)

It’s this one.....don’t know if it works or if it’s a pos yet...
It uses a good NXP(Motorola) sensor so it may be good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 08 2018, 02:08:25 PM
Controls a Mac valve to regulate boost. Think of it like the factory Buick boost solenoid on crack.

It has a map sensor in it to read boost so you can run closed loop or open loop. Open loop you just turn the knob until you get you desired boost level. Closed loop it’ll try to maintain your specified boost level.

It’s got a high and low boost level and if it’s off it should go to spring pressure. So you could have 3 different boost levels: gate, getting stuff done, and kill.

I took a gamble on it - it might be a piece of shit, but since it uses a Mac valve it’s easily to replace the controller.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on September 08 2018, 06:22:49 PM
So the mac valve is like a boost controller but the mac can be used at higher boost level with lower duty cycle according to my search.
And while I was goofing around I came on this guy with a nifty lcd screen displaying wbO2, boost and knock right in the dash.
https://www.3si.org/forum/f1/custom-obd1-mut-scanner-boost-controller-504761/ (https://www.3si.org/forum/f1/custom-obd1-mut-scanner-boost-controller-504761/)

Someone needs to do this for the buick. I guess I need to study up more. How hard could it be, right? haha
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 12 2018, 01:17:12 PM
I went out and played with the car today. Got it running and the tune was way lean, so I re-flashed it and it came around.


Took it for a quick spin and I forgot what torque felt like. 2-3psi half throttle and it's burning the tires. Scanner is showing some promising hp/trq calculations even part throttle regulating boost with my foot.


I got some video of the idle after I cleaned up some of the fueling. If it turned out I'll upload it.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 12 2018, 02:12:35 PM
Cover kept it nice and clean.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 12 2018, 04:26:24 PM
Damn, that thing is pretty!
Title: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on September 12 2018, 05:02:59 PM
Cover kept it nice and clean.
Love the color


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Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 13 2018, 12:05:03 PM
https://youtu.be/DzCYmZoZXrU
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 13 2018, 10:03:42 PM
Cover kept it nice and clean.
race car!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 30 2018, 11:02:16 AM
So my brother has been fighting with his bastardized stang for awhile. After a little run time it was down at least one hole and smoking. I was able to convince him to tear it down.
One of the lifters lost a clip chucked it’s guts in the valley. Both head gaskets were not sealing and pressurizing the coolant system. They were both missing one of the 2 indexing dowels, and the head gaskets were rtv’d to the deck. Now onto the cam it’s a 232/240 and nearly .600 lift - mind you it’s a 302 with the revised exploder heads/intake. So it was grossly over cammed. He took the heads in to have them checked, it had the wrong springs for the cam and they were almost .200 off on the installed height.

Heads were setup properly for the cam he is going to run, I talked him into something more mild to match the combination. He’s just waiting on some funds to slap it back together.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 30 2018, 01:31:49 PM
Lol
Sounds like a grade C horror flick
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on September 30 2018, 02:29:19 PM
I've never been a FE guy. Broke my teeth in on the 385 series.  That being said, this little 289 in the ranch wagon runs pretty damn strong for what it is.  Them older 302's are pretty resilient and in abundance.  Good luck!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 03 2019, 04:17:33 PM
I’ve been busy working on the car. I’ll have some updates this weekend  :rock:

I will say I broke the nipple off the damn map sensor for the boast controller, I need to see if I can replace the map or I can just run it open loop based using duty cycle.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on January 03 2019, 08:24:43 PM
Tap it and screw another one in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on January 04 2019, 08:34:57 AM
I’ve been busy working on the car. I’ll have some updates this weekend  :rock:

I will say I broke the nipple off the damn map sensor for the boast controller, I need to see if I can replace the map or I can just run it open loop based using duty cycle.
Plastic?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 04 2019, 09:18:57 AM
Plastic and to small to tap.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on January 04 2019, 12:06:14 PM
Use a magnifying glass haha. I would think the problem would be the plastic chips from threading but some trans gel or vaseline on the tap to collect the chips. And a threaded barb, I'm sure someone makes a plastic one or brass. Just have to find the tap that fits the threads. What is it like 3/16" or something? Even an eighth or sixteenth. Might not be worth the hassle of collecting up the tap and threaded barb.

Or a new unit,there's always that.

Something like this.
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/01795541 (https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/01795541)
https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0326796 (https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0326796)

I bought a three bar like this.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GM-STYLE-3BAR-3-BAR-MAP-Sensor-For-Electromotive-Motec-Megasquirt-With-Plug-/122053187412?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1 (https://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GM-STYLE-3BAR-3-BAR-MAP-Sensor-For-Electromotive-Motec-Megasquirt-With-Plug-/122053187412?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1)
There are more expensive ones too.
Cuz I'm a cheap a$$ and like to have new tools.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 04 2019, 03:14:51 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-sensor-MPXHZ6400A-MPXHZ6400AC6U-/291969170541 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-sensor-MPXHZ6400A-MPXHZ6400AC6U-/291969170541)

That’s what it looks like Rich it’s about 3/8” square total.

Hole is .110 id - I might have a tap but I think it’s cheaper to replace it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 04 2019, 03:17:21 PM
I read the blue print wrong od is .110-.130 - the hole is half that size.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on January 04 2019, 10:44:13 PM
$14 from Digikey and for $8 shipping you get it next day
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 03:49:24 PM
Made a trip to Ohio today, traded my 6speed setup for a legit th400 setup.
The deal included well built th400 (billet internals, rvmb, brake, aftermarket bell housing, nice aluminum deep pan), ptc 9.5 converter, sfi flex plate, b&m pro ratchet shifter, dump valve (aids spooling), umi cross member, dual cooler setup with a fan, driveshaft, and a leash bumpbox.

The setup came out of a 1000rwhp 4th gen camaro - stock bottom end deal. I’m going to try the converter and see how it works, but it might need to go back for a restall.

I need to decide on rear gears think 3.50 maybe a 3.25.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on January 05 2019, 03:59:55 PM

I need to decide on rear gears
http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php (http://www.wallaceracing.com/calc-gear-tire-rpm-mph.php)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 04:06:19 PM
pics
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 04:06:59 PM
another
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 04:08:38 PM
Thanks wmsonta - already been playing with numbers.


3.50 puts me where I want to be rpm/mph wise thru the traps - 3.25 would be better on the street.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on January 05 2019, 04:28:10 PM

3.50  - 3.25
Do not forget stall with a non L/U converter. If the converter supplier won't make a recommendation, you will have to guess. I guess 7% for 5500 stall or higher, for example. IMO, the difference in one ratio (3.25-3.5) is hundreds of a sec in a quarter, unless the car needs 60 ft help. Converters are not an exact science. I have known people who have bought 4 or 5 to get right. Expensive education.
Agai n, my opinions.
Expensive appearing transmission.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 05 2019, 06:31:17 PM
Jeremy...call Dusty. He'll take all the guess work out of it for you for stall and rear gears. I cut my teeth with this guy about convertors on the other board when he was posting. Learned from him how to get a 'tight' convertor to 'flash' higher off the line and how a 'tighter' convertor will MPH better.

Here he is setting a world record...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brR4BwzujhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brR4BwzujhI)

Oh...and break out your reading glasses and get the numbers off the convertor for him. I might be able to break it down here.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 07:06:20 PM
I’ll look at it again Monday, it’s a 20 blade stator. I was planning on calling ptc, Brad can you pm me Dusty’s number. My gut says run it, get data and restall as needed.






Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 05 2019, 07:07:34 PM
I’ll look at it again Monday, it’s a 20 blade stator. I was planning on calling ptc, Brad can you pm me Dusty’s number. My gut says run it, get data and restall as needed.

Jeremy, I'll make a call in the morning and get it for you. Pulling the transmission twice...sucks. The older I get...the more patient I get.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 07:38:38 PM
From what I can see on the pic after playing with it: ptc9511 20-0-6L-SEP
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 05 2019, 07:50:52 PM
From what I can see on the pic after playing with it: ptc9511 20-0-6L-SEP

A quote from Dusty. The 9.5's are a different animal. They aren't spec'd for a low RPM stall number. They are spec'd for a HP level and shift point taking the entire combo into consideration.


Dusty will have to decipher this one for you.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 08:18:35 PM
Its SL not 6L and SBP not SEP



It's a 20 blade stater, 0 fin angle, spragless with small block pattern/flex plate is my guess, but we'll see.


From what I've seen 3400-3500lb lsx turbo cars with under 800hp usually use the 18 to 20 blades and still go fast out the back. And they use from 3.25 to 3.70 gears.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 05 2019, 08:37:26 PM
800 to the back tire...and you'll do more...so it should be spec'd in your neighbourhood. Hope you have safety equipment to go well into the 9's...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 05 2019, 08:57:39 PM
I’m good to 9.99 in the 1/4, after that I’ll decide.

Brad you forget I’ve got a baby turbo. I’m thinking low 10’s in the high 130s is an obtainable goal.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 06 2019, 07:22:17 AM
Matt put down 600 to the back tire with the 78/75 on 12 PSI with this stock junk Camaro. I have a pretty good idea of what you're capable of...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyOqNEqyTvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyOqNEqyTvo)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2019, 02:16:26 PM
Confirmed with the previous owner the converter is spragless
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 06 2019, 02:19:16 PM
Confirmed with the previous owner the converter is spragless

Nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on January 06 2019, 02:47:00 PM
Confirmed with the previous owner the converter is spragless
I, for one, would certainly lurk a thread about experiences pertaining to sprag vs diode vs spragless.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2019, 04:16:14 PM
Not even worried about it, it’s no different than lockup vs non lock - everyone has an opinion. Ptc has been making these spragless non locks for a lot of extremely fast street driven turbo cars for over a decade.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 06 2019, 04:42:09 PM
Not even worried about it, it’s no different than lockup vs non lock - everyone has an opinion. Ptc has been making these spragless non locks for a lot of extremely fast street driven turbo cars for over a decade.

You can be sure the real quick cars at Dragweek are all using spragless convertors...a nd they drive those cars over hells half acre to get to each track.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on January 06 2019, 08:59:08 PM
I wish I had not posted that. No matter how carefully worded, I never fail to side track someone's thread.
Yes, I have been to Drag Week events 2 of the last 3 yrs. I was at the US Nationals last yr. In all possible weeks of '018, I had 3 free weekends away from local tracks. I go for free. Not sure what that proves.
I apologize for the hijack. I am out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2019, 09:50:12 PM
It not a big deal. I appreciate the concern. I’m not going into this uneducated, but I’m far from an expert. I’ve spent a long time planning to go to a 400 with ptc 9.5 conveter. I got a chance to make it happen with zero money out of pocket and jumped on it. I know what the it did in the car before mine at similar weight/rpm/power levels I’m expecting.

FWIW it was spec’d for a 3500lb grand national with a 70mm on it. Previous owner called ptc gave them the numbers and combo info they said run it.






Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 07 2019, 11:04:52 AM
Talked to Lane @ PTC this morning - he thinks it's going to be to loose, and wants to put a 15 or 16 blade in it.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 07 2019, 06:02:15 PM
Talked to Lane @ PTC this morning - he thinks it's going to be to loose, and wants to put a 15 or 16 blade in it.

Pack it up and fire it off.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on January 08 2019, 05:49:46 PM
I wish I had not posted that. No matter how carefully worded, I never fail to side track someone's thread.
Yes, I have been to Drag Week events 2 of the last 3 yrs. I was at the US Nationals last yr. In all possible weeks of '018, I had 3 free weekends away from local tracks. I go for free. Not sure what that proves.
I apologize for the hijack. I am out.

I'm not sure how the op feels,but if you need a place to post look for my threads
No way to side track mine.

And I do like the torque converter talk. Great to unravel the mystery.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 17 2019, 05:03:00 PM
Converter went out today!
Years ago I bought some vss stuff for the th400/3l80 - hopefully I can find it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on January 17 2019, 05:19:01 PM
Converter went out today!

If that is a custom built converter (read expensive), my advice would be to touch base with the supplier.

One of the guy's I help lost a diode in a custom that had a previous free re-stall. It was repaired for the shipping and the cost of just the part. It had just under 500 1/8 passes and 3 yrs on it.
It doesn't hurt to try.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 28 2019, 03:24:31 PM
Talked to Lane @ptc today, everything looked good - they are swapping the stator and shipping it back.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on January 28 2019, 09:58:39 PM
Good deal man!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 01 2019, 01:30:44 PM
Converter is back, now if the kids go back to school I might be able to get something done.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 01 2019, 04:22:47 PM
LOL...teach them to be helpers!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on February 01 2019, 07:35:49 PM
Dunno, how many times have I sent the kids off for a wrench/hammer/tool describing exactly where it is -just to have them come back empty handed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 01 2019, 08:02:05 PM
My oldest would either complain, or tell me what I’m doing wrong, my youngest would be happy to just play with the tools.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 01 2019, 09:27:50 PM
👍👍
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 02 2019, 06:22:24 AM
Dunno, how many times have I sent the kids off for a wrench/hammer/tool describing exactly where it is -just to have them come back empty handed.

Shades of the Buick Xmas breakfast crew.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on February 02 2019, 07:30:05 PM
Dunno, how many times have I sent the kids off for a wrench/hammer/tool describing exactly where it is -just to have them come back empty handed.

Shades of the Buick Xmas breakfast crew.
Not sure what you meant- but you were there too? :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 02 2019, 07:46:15 PM
Gettin' rid of race stuff. Trailer is next.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 05 2019, 01:46:58 PM
Brad are you driving that thing to the track then?


Flex plate is in, I needed fluid to go much further. I grabbed 2 gallons of trans fluid on the way home. Tonight is supposed to be freezing rain, so I might not get back to it tomorrow. The fun part is jacking the car high enough to get the trans and trans jack under it.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 05 2019, 05:13:22 PM
No, I'll rent a U haul car carrier if I wanna attend an event.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 06 2019, 12:25:27 PM
I need to check and see if the trans lines are -6 or -8. There is only enough line to mount the transcooler under the passenger side floor. It’s a nice derale dual core with a ten inch fan. It’ll all work if I send the exhaust out the fender - but I’m pretty sure I want full exhaust. I’ve got enough -6 laying around to put the cooler up front or out back. Fender exit exhaust makes everything easier - but it also screems race car.
The trans is tapped for 1/8 npt on the vent - so I’m probably going to grab an overflow tank that bolts to the pan rail. Need to decide and get one coming as once it’s in the car good luck getting to it.
Trans has an sfi bell but no shield. I’m pretty sure he said it had an aluminum drum with a clean neutral. I don’t think a steel/aluminum shield will clear the floor - So that leaves me with a blanket so I’m still looking at options. I’ll probably just send it.
Need to order gears too!
This is a whole lot of work for a 12 second slug... :P


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on February 06 2019, 04:46:31 PM
So, when is the first track day with it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 06 2019, 06:18:45 PM
Depends on how many problems I’ve created for myself. Still got a ways to go. I’d like to dial it in this summer and lean on it a little this fall.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on February 07 2019, 09:50:50 AM
Anxiously awaiting your payoff
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 16 2019, 04:30:30 PM
So - I got some stuff done today. Trans is installed, driveshaft is in. Still needs the shifter, cooler + lines, torque converter bolts, dipstick and fluid before I can test it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 16 2019, 10:05:04 PM
I see 9's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 17 2019, 11:35:21 AM
One step at a time. You’re getting there
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 18 2019, 01:42:20 PM
Torque converter bolts are in - what a pain in the ass. LS1 flywheel to sbc torque converter makes it so you have 1 spot that you to feed the bolt thru the flex plate into the converter. They included 4 shims with the bolts each .020 thick the first one went smooth but the other 2 fought all the way. Using the resources I had, a nylon rope was sacrificed. I used strains from the rope rope to tie the shims/washers together. It's done but I was struggling today.


Driveshaft seems short, but I have almost 1-1/4" slip. With the yoke in the trans, there is some play, I know my other one did too. I think its one of those things that always bothers me, I cringe look away and forget about it.  I'm just hoping it doesn't have any driveline vibrations.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 18 2019, 08:04:00 PM
At the end of the day, progress is still progress slow that it may be
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 18 2019, 09:40:16 PM
Am I overthinking this? Or is this about 1” to short?
3.5” yoke - hanging almost 2.5” out of the trans?
I don’t think it’s in far enough to hit the bushing and feels loose. I smoke a lot of weed but I don’t think this will work.....am I wrong?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 18 2019, 09:42:23 PM
I need to measure but I can go with a longer yoke on the 9” that would gain me that 1”.
https://www.quickperformance.com/Ford-9-1350-Long-Billet-Yoke_p_4028.html (https://www.quickperformance.com/Ford-9-1350-Long-Billet-Yoke_p_4028.html)

I know these last two posts are loaded with some that’s what she said jokes!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 19 2019, 12:21:03 AM
Jeremy, I always aimed for the yoke to be about 1" from bottoming out in the tailshaft when measuring the driveshaft at ride height.  I have seen a few that were closer to 1.5"
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 19 2019, 07:55:17 AM
My GN isn't my DD...so when I get it done...then I get it done...no rush. I Crazy glue the shims for my convertor together...mak es life easy.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on March 19 2019, 09:07:20 AM
for the yoke to be about 1" from bottoming out in the tailshaft when measuring the driveshaft at ride height. 
I will add my .02 cents, without charge.
Measuring as Steve Woods, I see 3/4" as perfect. Even with solid bushed suspension mounting. As close as possible works.

I would add, the converter has to turn free before I want it bolted to the flex plate. For me, verified clearance even with shims.
Just my opinions.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 19 2019, 09:49:28 AM
What we don't know from your pictures...or at least I don't know....is how much further the yoke on the front end of the shaft will slip into the transmission.  It does not look to me as if the splines have enuf "meshed" distance but without knowing how much further the yoke could have been pushed into the tranny before it bottomed out we are limited.

So, disconnect the driveshaft at the rear, push it all the way into the transmission and then see how much you have to pull it out to connect it to the rear yoke.  If that distance is say 3/4" to maybe 1.25", I would call it good.  If the shaft is too long, you cannot push it in far enuf to clear the rear yoke when installing the shaft.  If it is too short, you will not have enuf spline engagement.  With the power you are making, I would want it to be in that 3/4 to 1" range. 

I am not familiar with the modern transmissions to know just how far a yoke will slide in before hitting bottom.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 19 2019, 11:52:26 AM
Yoke will go all the way in.
It's only in an inch - and from what I've read it needs to be in 2" to have good support from the tail shaft bushing. Right now it's not even hitting bushing - I can move it side to side, if I slip it in with an inch of yoke hanging out it feels solid.
 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 19 2019, 02:09:54 PM
The yoke should be all the way in until it is stopped.  Then pull it out 3/4 to 1" and that is where it should be when installed. That will give you maximum spline engagement
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 19 2019, 02:36:27 PM
Yup and somehow all my shit worked perfectly in his car but I come up short. My lowers are adjusted to center the 28 slicks for clearance. At this point I might just put the stock length ones in to check.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 19 2019, 03:19:55 PM
I’ve been talking with the previous owner and this is the pic he sent me that’s suspension unloaded, it still looks like it’s out a ways
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on March 20 2019, 08:54:19 AM
No way would I trust that.  :O I'd be getting a new drive shaft.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 20 2019, 10:48:50 AM
That’s my thoughts also Dan.
I’m going to verify that I don’t have anything bound up in the suspension and check everything over before I order a new shaft.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on March 20 2019, 10:49:22 AM
Yeah, I agree w/Grumpy, that looks scary. The fact, you can get play by hand was enough for me. Most who shake something, exert less than 50 ft pounds. The forces under power are many multiples.
engine torque x converter multiplication (1.5x-2.2x) x low gear ratio (1.72x-3.06x)= the force reacting against the given play. Think impact wrench.

If I was going to buy another driveshaft, I would first know the weight bias. I personally do not like to work with less than 40% rear. From memory, previous G-bodies were 42-43% oem. Those were not GN's.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2019, 10:11:38 AM
Just got off the phone with the chassis shop that built the rear end and suspension. The normal measurement for a 4th gen fbody and th400 with there suspension is 44.875”. So I’m 7/8 short at get go, and centering the rear for the 28” slicks is probably the other 1/2” or so I’m missing. Weather is pretty grey out I might just take another day away from it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 21 2019, 10:28:33 AM
you just talked me into it...:D

I meant out of it...gray cold days ain't my cup of tea!

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2019, 10:48:34 AM
Trust me I’m looking for every answer I can before I ask the guy how he’s going to handle it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 21 2019, 11:14:26 AM
You have to get the yoke into it. 

I see two ways.  Longer drive shaft, or a longer yoke.

I suspect you moved the wheels back when you did the overhaul.  That just added to the problem.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2019, 12:09:54 PM
Just got home - found an issue in the suspension, but nothing that fixed my issue. Sway bar was rubbing shock bolts under extension not at ride height. My control arms are 1/8" longer so I'm not finding anything there. I cycled the suspension about 20 times to see if the car would settle any but no luck.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2019, 02:23:25 PM
I reached out the person I traded with. Just waiting to hear if he’s going to tell me to pound sand or work with me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2019, 02:41:27 PM
So far he’s willing to help - but he doesn’t understand how it can come up short. I’m done thinking about it for today......

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 25 2019, 09:19:24 PM
With all that suspension cycling you did, talking with suspension guys, measuring and remeasuring, researching and not feeling comfortable with it in the first place.... case closed. Measure for a new drive shaft. Compare that with the current shaft you have, order a new shaft and then feel safe about driving the car
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2019, 09:38:51 AM
Nothing like a Michigan spring break. One kid has influenza a, the other has strep throat and now my wife and I are both sick.....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 26 2019, 01:37:52 PM
I think the entire country is suffering from something.  The flu has not died out around here yet, a stomach bug is going around, and everyone is suffering from allergies.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2019, 07:34:03 PM
Wife and I both tested positive for influenza a. Ugh
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on March 26 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Wife and I both tested positive for donations influenza a. Ugh
Man I feel for you guys... I firmly believe that school teachers build up tolerances early in their careers. Of course, my wife now just spreads it’s to me and the kids and never gets sick herself
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 02 2019, 05:30:33 PM
While I haven’t been felt good enough to crawl under the car - jegs sent me a $100 off $1k and I might have a package coming from Holley. A 650 double pumper with manual choke carburetor better not be in the box!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 03 2019, 12:39:27 PM
It's here....

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 03 2019, 04:42:58 PM
the underside of my dash looks like that
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on April 03 2019, 10:36:43 PM
I’m jealous! That Holley software is really nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 03 2019, 11:30:28 PM
I’m fully prepared to chase my ass around.
The stock ecu is great and I’ve done well with it. Hp tuners is really good software, I’m just sick of their licensing. Now I need to upgrade my USB adapter to their new Bluetooth adapter. By the time I added the cost of new adapter, licensing, and a used gm p59 - it was only $200-300 more for the Holley. Made the decision pretty easy.
I’m trying to decide how far I want to go into the wiring. I may try to keep the stock pcm for some things. Unfortunately it does drive the cluster. The plan is to see If i can get the gas gauge, speedo working and continue to use the stock pcm for cooling fan control while the Holley does the rest. If not race car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on April 04 2019, 07:40:54 AM
How fast you looking to go ?  :chin:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on April 04 2019, 08:38:54 AM
Does the Holley use the tuner studio setup or is it a whole 'nother software deal? Did it come with all the senesors/senders? Or are they "extra"?
We are doing this supercharged 3800 swap and I was looking to go with the hptuners but this looks like a viable thing to consider. Though it is my son's project and bankroll so I am just the tool/ space provider in the equation.
Good stuff. Lots to learn on my end.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 04 2019, 09:40:46 AM
Dan - should go easy mid 11s all day  :icon_eyes:

Rich - Holley has their own software, but it’s similar to tuner studio. Right now this ecu is sold as ls only, but it appears to have support coming for other platforms. Hptuners is probably still your best bet for the swap. Depending on how many mods your planning on it might be easier to have someone disable vats and apply a basic tune - should be able to find someone to do it for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on April 04 2019, 11:27:04 PM
I’m fully prepared to chase my ass around.
The stock ecu is great and I’ve done well with it. Hp tuners is really good software, I’m just sick of their licensing. Now I need to upgrade my USB adapter to their new Bluetooth adapter. By the time I added the cost of new adapter, licensing, and a used gm p59 - it was only $200-300 more for the Holley. Made the decision pretty easy.
I’m trying to decide how far I want to go into the wiring. I may try to keep the stock pcm for some things. Unfortunately it does drive the cluster. The plan is to see If i can get the gas gauge, speedo working and continue to use the stock pcm for cooling fan control while the Holley does the rest. If not race car.
I see your concerns. Does Holley have blue tooth? If so, maybe consider a tablet that can run RealDash.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 05 2019, 12:55:11 PM

The 3.5" screen is the "dash" with the holley. I'm sure I could run a tablet with holley's software. But the screen handles about everything and can display just about anything you want. Once i get playing with it I'll know more. I'm trying to save as much i/o on the holley for fun stuff, i'm sure I could burn an input for the fuel level and display it on the screen - but that's probably not the best use of an input.
I'm going to start printing wiring diagrams and see what I can come up with. I know the stock pcm does a lot of bs stuff and it might be worth retaining to for those bs things.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on April 05 2019, 05:55:25 PM
From the Holley message forum they post of a usb hub and a Bluetooth dongle to do Bluetooth. I wasn't sure just what is being used here but the ones I looked at on the Holley site didn't have that feature out of the box.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 08 2019, 03:16:13 PM
Couple steps forward and a couple sideways.
Driveshaft is ordered!
Trans cooler is so big it doesn’t fit out front, it’s a double stacked cooler with a fan. It fits nice under the floor where it was previous installed. It fits perfectly there - but no room for the exhaust. Back to considering fender exit. Makes everything easier, and it’s no worse than dumping the exhaust under the car, both in noise and fume wise.
It appears the fitting in the trans vent is to tight to the case to put the hose end on. And of course it’s to tight to the floor mess with. Hopefully I can lower the kmember and trans crossmember enough to fix it. If not trans needs to come back out.

Spent Sunday afternoon retuning my brother 07 Grand Prix gt w/3800 supercharged v6. We leaned it up and ended up dropping the timing down to 10* @ wot and the damn thing still knocked. After 2-3 pulls the blower car is so heat soaked that we called it a day. I think 8* might be what it takes. If the Maf wasn’t built into the throttle body I think we’d try spraying it with some washer fluid.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 09 2019, 09:33:09 AM
How long will it take to get the new driveshaft?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 09 2019, 09:53:02 AM
Probably be here toward the end of the week. Coming from PEM in MO
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 09 2019, 11:44:11 AM
It’s Oh and it’s supposed to snow Thursday - it was 70f yesterday
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 09 2019, 02:17:30 PM
another bomb cyclone.  It's supposed to reach the Texas Panhandle.  forecasting 39 low Saturday night here. Gonna hit low 90's here today
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on April 09 2019, 03:56:50 PM
It’s Oh and it’s supposed to snow Thursday - it was 70f yesterday
That is summer weather here!  We had snow on the ground when I woke up this afternoon. :( It was 10F this morning.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 17 2019, 10:10:45 AM
Driveshaft is here. The center to center measurement is right where I expected it to land, I only gave them the tran seal to center measurement. Fingers crossed it'll fit.


It's not as pretty as my PST driveshaft was, but I guess I won't feel like as much as an asshole when I slide it across the floor and scratch it all up.


Of course I'm busy pretty much the rest of the week, so maybe this weekend I'll be able to check it out. I've been working on stuff around the house, so I haven't made any progress on the car. Hopefully next week the weather will calm down.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 17 2019, 11:30:09 AM
well hurry up!  Now that Brad has retired, you are my only hope for a life!  :D
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 17 2019, 11:55:03 PM
well hurry up!  Now that Brad has retired, you are my only hope for a life!  :D


Jason and Jeremy are the youngsters I'm keeping an eye on.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 22 2019, 11:54:04 AM
Driveshaft fits....



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 22 2019, 12:50:34 PM
Money can fix a lot of things!  Nice looking!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 22 2019, 02:47:18 PM
It got a few scratches going in. I knew it was going to work when I had to work a little bit to get it in.
One step closer.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 22 2019, 07:36:43 PM
 :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 22 2019, 07:38:49 PM
What's left?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 22 2019, 08:01:27 PM
Shifter, cooler, trans overflow (don't know if I'm even going to mess with it), fluid, and a few wires. Pedal swap too.
Then some sort of exhaust
Fuel rails and finish out the fuel system
Gears
Then install the holley in there some where.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 22 2019, 09:19:12 PM
I'm tired already
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 23 2019, 01:41:01 PM
I helped my uncle out this morning. He was having issues connecting to his MSD 7530T box. Turns out the serial cable wasn't fully seated in the box, that was buried under the dash. He thought it would allow for some base timing control coming from a MSD LS box. I'm thinking we can get around it by setting base at the most he'd run and then just set the step retards it 2* or so. It's got 3 retards, and a toggle switch an a +12v would be simple to wire.
Oh yeah it's a 4th gen camaro, 29.5x10.5, 7.50 cert, ladder bar, probably 2800lbs or so, sb2.2 (15:1), glide. The chassis is overkill for the engine. It made 800 flywheel hp, runs on vp x16, ran 9.2@144 with 1.2 60ft.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 02 2019, 08:05:50 PM
It's May - I need to get my ass in gear.

Remind me again why someone tears apart a well sorted combo?
The real kick in the nuts is the transmission over flow setup isn't going to work without swapping some fittings and the trans has to come back down to do that.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 02 2019, 11:22:38 PM
One step forward... if you own a Buick.... 6... no, 10 steps back. You got this!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 06 2019, 03:06:43 PM
Shifter is mounted in the car. Need to adjust the cable and hook up the p/n and reverse switches. I'm already not sure if I like this pro-ratchet shifter....but it's what I have so I'm going rock it for now.

Another thing off the list.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 06 2019, 10:04:40 PM
Shifter is mounted in the car. Need to adjust the cable and hook up the p/n and reverse switches. I'm already not sure if I like this pro-ratchet shifter....but it's what I have so I'm going rock it for now.

Another thing off the list.
Probably works better at the track than a column shift car.  Keep doing it because you’re all I got to watch with all these hours I’m having to work
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 08 2019, 01:49:14 PM
Shifter is adjusted, it looks like the trans has a clean neutral as I've got one more click on the transmission lever when the shifter is in 3rd (RMVB). More to come on that.
The trans cooler fits 2 places, under the passenger floor and where the muffler would sit. I started on the downpipe, the wastegate location makes it a complete pain. I've got a few piece the I should start tacking before I go much further.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 09 2019, 02:11:46 PM
Looking at the instructions I was able to figure out my issue.
The cable tab can bolt inside and outside of the front of the shifter. If it’s inside it can’t fully shift to park. I moved it to the outside and readjusted everything and it’s good.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 09 2019, 02:40:22 PM
I'm glad to see a kid can still learn something!  Steady progress
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 09 2019, 08:08:47 PM
This kid will be 40 this year!
I should have known to download/print the instructions first, I just winged it, until it didn't work right.


I'm thinking a 1/4npt to 1/8npt bushing to replace the return in the pan for the dump valve and then a temp probe in the bushing in the pan. I don't think I'll need the dump valve to help with spooling this baby turbo, later down the road it might be handy.


As soon as I get things tested I'm going to see if I can trade off this ratchet shifter for a gated one. Some people think they are awesome, and so far I'm not digging it.







Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 10 2019, 09:01:35 AM
You are still a kid!  IF I were two years older, I would be twice as old as you!  I'm glad I am not, btw LOL

I was four years older than you when I bought my GN!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on May 10 2019, 02:01:09 PM
I'm already not sure if I like this pro-ratchet shifter....but it's what I have so I'm going rock it for now.
I have one in the Mazda. You will like it in time.  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 14 2019, 12:15:15 PM
Making progress...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 17 2019, 04:28:12 PM
After fighting with my Dad’s Hobart 140 for two days I gave up and busted out old reliable and got to work. I’m so over spending money so the downpipe was my over the axle pipe that’s been on the car for quite a few years. I cleaned it up a little and stopped caring about how it looks and just got it done. I’m sure if the stainless was 100% clean and I was using the right gas/wire the results would be better. But it’s going to be wrapped and pretty much out of sight.
Next week I’ll decide how I want to finish it out from the frame thru the fender. I’ve got a couple ideas I just want to make sure before I cut a hole in the bumper cover. I’ll probably end up with a black trim ring around the pipe like this: https://www.motionraceworks.com/collections/trim-rings/products/black-anodized-exhaust-trim-rings-single-exhaust-sizes-2-5-to-5 (https://www.motionraceworks.com/collections/trim-rings/products/black-anodized-exhaust-trim-rings-single-exhaust-sizes-2-5-to-5)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 26 2019, 06:08:06 PM
Went out the test fit the mini bullet and had some help.
Looks Like I can come straight out of the mini bullet and out the bumper cover.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 26 2019, 07:28:47 PM
Looks like a winner to me. The helper, I mean. :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 27 2019, 10:52:14 AM
Always good to have an extra set of eyes and hands when doing hot rod stuff! I can tell you that sometimes you’ll get a little frustrated with those little set of hands but those hands won’t stay little for long. Enjoy it! Savor it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 27 2019, 07:55:35 PM
You should have seen the look of disgust I got when I told him we couldn't go for a ride yet....... :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 29 2019, 04:11:27 PM
Just need to put an o2 bung in the downpipe and the exhaust is ready. Still have to drill the 3.5” hole in the bumper cover.
Welder seemed to be happy today welds aren’t show quality, but I laid down some decent beads.
Now to remove the downpipe that came with the kit. Radiator needs pulled, Or i might be able to pull the engine mount and stand and get it out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 03 2019, 01:16:32 PM
I've test fit the downpipe and everything clears after welding. I got the o2 bung welded in, it's closer to the turbo than I wanted but it'll work. Next step is loosen up the bumper cover and mark/drill. I tested on some of the cover I cut away last year and it came out good. Hopefully it'll be the same when I drill the actual hole!
I feel like captain slow, but I'm still plugging away.




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 04 2019, 09:46:37 AM
I've test fit the downpipe and everything clears after welding. I got the o2 bung welded in, it's closer to the turbo than I wanted but it'll work. Next step is loosen up the bumper cover and mark/drill. I tested on some of the cover I cut away last year and it came out good. Hopefully it'll be the same when I drill the actual hole!
I feel like captain slow, but I'm still plugging away.
Slow is safe and safe is fast!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 04 2019, 11:42:00 AM
Yeah, but! I'm with the young man. I'm ready to go for a ride.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 04 2019, 03:29:23 PM
So yeah I must have been a little distracted by my helper, the downpipe exit needed to come down a couple inches. It was exiting at the marker light. Some more cutting and welding, but version 2.0 is ready for test fit.
And yes Steve - I’m ready to send this thing down the track - not much longer I hope.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 12 2019, 10:30:39 AM
Jeremy, I've been gone as my diabetes has gotten worse. I pass the torch to you. Go get 'em!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 13 2019, 11:25:25 AM
Parents with older kids trying to learn to ride a bike don't buy a 20" huffy unless it already has training wheels on it, if not they save the nickel and make the axle to short to bolt training wheels on. This is my second attempt, this time I busted out the cutoff wheel, drill, and welder. I made some simple brackets and welded it together. No adjustment but it's 100% stable now, which he needs at this point. Once he's gained some confidence they'll be coming off.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 13 2019, 04:33:39 PM
Good job! :icon_fU:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 17 2019, 01:37:16 PM
Finally, still needs some tweaking but came out better than expected.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 17 2019, 02:12:55 PM
It sucks looking at the pics and seeing issues..
Obviously I'll be cleaning up the hole, I was a little off and the rivets pulled the trim ring as well. Easy fix.
The pipe was just resting inside the muffler, once the band clamp it on it centers up nicely, or close enough for me.


I got the downpipe wrapped as well one of my least favorite things to do, but it's necessary.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 18 2019, 10:12:09 AM
Pretty subtle issues-looks good.
Go racing!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 22 2019, 03:01:38 PM
Progress is progress. Looking good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 25 2019, 11:58:03 AM
Exhaust is done, trans cooler mounted and plumbed, dipstick installed, and the trans pan is full of fluid  :rock:
Brought the battery home to charge. Have a bunch of little bs stuff to do yet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 25 2019, 07:56:12 PM
You are on an absolute roll! :rock:  It may yet run before winter! :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 26 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Lets say the stimulator has helped - I've been getting a bunch of stuff done around the house. I'm up to 8000+ steps a day, 2 years ago it was 2500-4000 a day. The doc and I had a good talk about meds, and we decided to hold where we are as I haven't felt this good in years. Fingers crossed it lasts, but I know all to well at any point things could go south.


Pretty sure I saw myself on a TV commercial for my lawyers office, https://youtu.be/rvlp1ME6Dhg?t=26 - lol 3 seconds of fame.





Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: larrym on June 26 2019, 01:54:43 PM
I like the fender dump looks great!

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 26 2019, 02:17:19 PM
I'm glad that stimulator made a noticeable difference!  When you are at the bottom, any positive step makes a big change in our lives. Hopefully this is one of many such in the future!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on June 26 2019, 02:32:04 PM
I'm up to 8000+ steps a day, 2 years ago it was 2500-4000 a day.
Damn, in a normal day?
Part of my workout is to walk 3 1/2 mi, 3x a wk (M-W-F). You out walk me.

Scoobum has diabetes issues and Steve Woods has a goat infestation. Is this whole board the walking wounded?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 26 2019, 07:33:56 PM
My goal is 10k a day monthly average, I'm getting there.
9 years ago I survived a pretty horrific incident but I was left with nearly 80% of my body burned. I made a full recovery, back to work and such - but the pain, pstd, depression, anxiety and all the meds was just to much. I ended up working for 5 years after my accident, and then it took nearly 3 years to get my Social Security disability rolling.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 26 2019, 09:02:25 PM
God smiled on you and your family.  Many don't recover from such horrific burns.  It also takes a tremendous amount of will to handle the aftermath if one does "recover".  Car guys, forever!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 26 2019, 10:10:01 PM
Somebody was looking out for me, I'm extremely lucky.
I'm still trying to find my way - but for now I'm just glad no matter how bad today is, I can start over tomorrow.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 27 2019, 01:02:38 PM
I’ve hauled a few burn victims and it gets me every time. . Big props to you for always looking ahead. A smart fella once told me that there’s no future in the past. . I can only imagine the pain of burns. It took me almost three years for that Haji fella to stop running at me in my dreams. VA folks here always thank me when I tell them I’m employed and it always surprises me when they do. Like what else am I supposed to be doing? Folks depend on us and despite our own battles, their needs are what keep us going
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 27 2019, 02:46:55 PM
I've always had a pretty high pain tolerance, but they don't make words for what someone with significant burns goes thru. The burn itself, the treatment, and then the therapy afterwards - it's all rough.


Jason - thanks for all you've done and continue to do!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on June 27 2019, 03:40:56 PM
I have had small burns on my hands and face. 3rd degree on my hands and 2nd degree on my face. Regardless, my imagination does not allow me to contemplate your experience.

I will use your ordeal as perspective with my issues. I wish you well.

The mental aspect of near fatal issues amazes me to this day. Mine changed the way I see everything. There is no way back.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 08 2019, 10:36:14 AM
No progress on the car. Being 15 minutes away makes it hard to tinker on. No bathroom sucks too. But this gave me motivation to hound the township to see if they'll give me 10ft of variance so I can build a 30-32 wide x 40ish long shop. Last year I got the run around. I can possibly make 24ft wide fit, but then it starts getting tight inside with more than one car in it. Waiting for someone to call me back - I called last Tuesday, so that means I'll be calling them tomorrow.


Wife and her friend are having a garage sale here in my garage this weekend - they gave me 3 weeks notice which was nice. So I've been working on all the things that needed to be cleaned up. Power washed the house, cleaned out the garage, reclaimed our back patio from the yard, etc. Hopefully they've already have done our tax assessment as it looking pretty good around here.


Maybe this weekend I'll go play with the car. Need to get it to move under it's own power again.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 08 2019, 12:02:45 PM

When I moved back to the ranch, I built a 30 x 40 steel building.  I wish I had built it bigger because I have several cars and a lot of junk.  And there is nothing natural about organization in my genes.


The biggest mistake I made in my opinion is that I installed a single 8 foot door in the center of the building (30' front of the building) 16' or so would have made it easier to get cars in an out.


I built an 8' wide storage room  in one rear corner and that took up a lot of floor space as well.


It would have helped if I had built a loft across the rear or down one side so I could have put up a lot of stuff that I walk around as well.  One cannot have too many shelves.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on July 08 2019, 12:53:23 PM
3360 sq ft.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 08 2019, 12:57:29 PM
Steve, I want (2) 10' wide doors. I'd like to go 12-14' ceiling so I can install a lift.

WMsonta - Looks like plenty of space to pack stuff in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 08 2019, 01:45:35 PM
I have 12 ' walls and a four post lift in the rear.  I would like to have a two post lift beside it but I need another wide door beside the one in the center.  I have a regular entry door on the right hand side.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 08 2019, 01:58:58 PM
I should have put a 8x40' container across the back, insulated it and moved a lot of my stuff in there that is taking up floor space but, I did not realize just how much stuff I have LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on July 08 2019, 08:25:28 PM
Sorry guys but I am KING of the junk game hands down.  :rock: garages, basement, attic and 2 barns with lofts. Russ has been stealing a lot from me. I do have to move a lotta junk soon. The bigger building ya build the more you stash junk.  Hoarders wanted to do a show about me  :rofl: Oh and age doesn't help at this point. Tuff to get motivated.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 08 2019, 09:36:44 PM
This past year, my  motivation has gone away.  If some one comes to visit, I get motivated but when I am by myself, I think how much my back is going to hurt, and I go back to my chair.


My son bought a 72 satellite wagon with a 318 in it.  I have a 440 in the shop so we are stockpiling all the damn parts required to do a swap.  I told him to bring a friend with him because I am getting to the point where I want to sit and give directions and it takes me too long to get up off the floor.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on July 09 2019, 11:28:51 AM
This past year, my  motivation has gone away.  If some one comes to visit, I get motivated but when I am by myself, I think how much my back is going to hurt, and I go back to my chair.
Itsn't that amazing how that works !! Today I was goin to set the world on fire. Then the wife said her sister was coming over.  :rolleyes; So here I sit banging keys  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 09 2019, 11:55:45 AM
In the old days, that would have sent me out to play with cars.  Now, I would think she might have something interesting to say
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 29 2019, 01:25:43 PM
My wife and I decided our oldest needed to be around some other kids, so I’ve got a week off from daddy daycare.
https://youtu.be/YFN7Vnc5_S8 (https://youtu.be/YFN7Vnc5_S8)


So far I like the exhaust out the front - it’s quieter than dumping it under the car. It’s the right amount of angry outside and mellow inside.


Tune needs some more fuel idle and off idle which I expected with the auto swap. I tested the transmission as good as I could on ramp and running crappy. It’s got reverse and 3 forward gears. Now I’ve got some motivation to start knocking out the rest of the stuff.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 29 2019, 05:08:13 PM
That car needs some nascar style Boom Tubes!  I think I am going to put some on the Challenger :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on July 30 2019, 12:04:29 AM
Don’t sound bad at all.  I’d love to sit and work on the idle and tip in with ya
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 30 2019, 08:58:04 AM
sounds like old gas has jellied up the accelerator pump  :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Grumpy on July 30 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Like this ?  :013:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 30 2019, 11:40:32 AM
Old gas and Running Airflow Table out of wack - hence the screwdriver for idle control.


Jason - when I get to that point I'll be happy to share screenshots or videos of the changes.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 31 2019, 02:25:38 PM
Daycare lasted 2 days.....he came home with what we thought was a little sunburn, it wasn't until he went to take a shower my wife noticed that he must have had his shirt off while playing outside and is sunburn from the waist up. The real kick in the nuts is we provided sun screen for him that we know works.....they just "forgot" to put it on him. Then we had to fight with the daycare to get our money back for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday - as we had prepaid for the week. Without proper treatment he would have blistered all over, and I think he still might in his shoulders. It's bad enough I put silvadene on him, and he immediately started thanking me that it was feeling better.
Nothing like paying for someone to take care of your child and them failing miserably..... .just makes me sick.


So no car updates today - I spent most of the day yesterday checking my to-do list and gathering stuff to check stuff off the list.




Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 31 2019, 08:01:30 PM
I cannot believe they hesitated on giving your money back.  One call to the right people and they should be in danger of losing their license.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 31 2019, 09:01:08 PM
They thought they were going above and beyond by offering to keep him inside all day, while all the other kids could play outside. How is that fair for him? I just can't believe these morons. We wanted him to go to daycare to play with other kids, he can watch tv and play video games here all day with me for free. [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 31 2019, 09:30:36 PM
Back to car stuff.
I need tires for the car, 6 in total. A complete set for the stock 16x8 “Street” wheels, so some decent performance fronts and drag radials out back. Then front runners for the 15x3.5 wheels in my “drag” setup. It’s currently got a Mickey sportsman on it I need to check and see if they are 4 or 8 ply.
16” performance tire options are getting slim and pricy. So I’m considering a drag radial for the drag setup instead of the existing slick and new front runners.
So buy 4 tires and run the drag setup 24x7 - and Use the stock wheels for storage only.
My only concern is being able to consistently hook the radial. It’s yet again another thing in the combo I’ve changed.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2019, 05:13:37 PM
Yesterday I changed muffler on my wife’s civic. Both bolts backed out 3 turns and snapped. I had to twist the factory nuts to break the tack welds. But I couldn’t get a socket on it with the bolt sticking out. Out came the cutoff, 1st one cut fine, 2nd one I somehow managed to cut into the intermediate pipe. Out came the welder and grinder to fix my mistake. Dropped a tack on it and smoked a hole in the pipe. I took the welder off kill, cleaned everything up and got it all sealed up. One of those it should take a half hour jobs, and took the afternoon.


Today I spent some time with the car. I worked on the wiring under the car, just needs to be terminated in the car. The trans cooler fan is no joke it moves some decent air!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 28 2019, 09:44:06 PM
sounds like an average day to me! :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 03 2019, 03:05:39 PM
So yeah - I managed to walk an average of 4 miles a day for the entire month of August. Last year it was 1.8miles. I must be feeling better.
Went out and worked on the car a little today. I took some time to clean the shop up, one of the garage doors was installed about an 1 inch to high. I offered to help fix it but my dad is perfectly happy with the way it is. I need to just suck it up and find a contractor/builder and get going on a shop.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 03 2019, 04:52:22 PM
We Dads can be contrary at times!  :D


If you can walk four miles a day, then I would say you have made a heckuva lot progress!  It takes a tremendous will to recover from what you have endured.  I know it really affects both you and the family in a very positive way.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 10 2019, 12:33:35 PM
I ended up making a crows foot like tool to get that bastard overflow fitting out of the transmission. Worked perfect - took the old fitting out and installed the new one with it.  I got the pedals swapped over today! Not a bad job unless you have a door bar right in the way. Just plugging away knocking out what I can.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 13 2019, 10:32:33 AM
Still looking for a Harley to cruise down and watch you beat on it next spring. I retire on the 29th of November. I'll have plenty of time on my hands.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 13 2019, 03:59:33 PM

Congrats! That's awesome Brad!
I got quite a bit knocked out on it this week - hopefully I can continue at this pace. I decided to re-do all the wiring I've added to the car over the years, so I yanked pretty much everything out. I'm in I really don't want to do this again mode - so I've just been taking my time, soldering joints, heat shrink, and looming them in bigger heat shrink keeping everything nice and tidy. Intake needs to come off so I can clean it out, and install the fuel rails. By the time I get the intake off half of the wiring harness is unplugged, I'm really tempted to throw the Holley in it. I've been holding off on doing anything on the fuel system with the humidity being 80%+ all week, as the fumes/smell would never leave. Other than wiring and fuel system plumbing - it's just gears, tires, tune, and sort all the self inflicted issues out. 

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 18 2019, 03:45:50 PM
Wiring is nice and clean and 85% done. I went to install the console so I could start connecting the ashtray switch plate, but it doesn't fit like it should. Damn shifter is barely touching a tab, so it distorts it and makes the upper console not fit. I thought I checked this like 100 times. Hopefully, I have enough wiggle room to make it work without redrilling everything. I decided that was a good place to call it a day.
The holley is staying in it's box until next year.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 18 2019, 08:24:34 PM
Pick away at it during the winter...no rush.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 27 2019, 12:11:53 PM
https://youtu.be/YwRCrZEYFzg

Progress
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 27 2019, 02:05:10 PM
It should be cooling down up there enough to make a good push on the beast!  More buttons than a jet liner!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on September 27 2019, 02:44:25 PM
It didn't start! :P
I was out a couple weeks ago in the car and the spoolup was insane.  Just touched the gas and the car was gone!!  Love this cooler weather.  Apparently they will be running at the track tomorrow.  So it will probably be 4'C in the morning with a high of 10'C.  Should be some good times if the guys can hook but they usually spray the crap out of the track in this weather.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 27 2019, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: nocooler
https://youtu.be/YwRCrZEYFzg (https://youtu.be/YwRCrZEYFzg)

Progress

Scoob approved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 28 2019, 12:55:55 PM
How about this? 10ft wide breezeway and 32'x36'x14'
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 28 2019, 03:10:53 PM
Scoob approved!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 28 2019, 06:45:01 PM
How about this?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 28 2019, 06:45:54 PM
Racetronix. Canadian Eh!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 02 2019, 02:45:14 PM
Getting closer
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 02 2019, 03:51:56 PM
Tidy up that loose wire!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 02 2019, 04:25:03 PM
That stuff isn’t plugged in yet! Still a few more things to work on.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: good2win22 on October 05 2019, 10:07:56 PM
Looks fast!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2019, 03:34:39 PM
Looks can be deceiving!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 07 2019, 04:25:52 PM
9's all day.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2019, 02:24:15 PM
Brad - Is this better?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 08 2019, 07:45:41 PM
That's better! What's the Batman bottle?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2019, 08:14:22 PM
That's my coolant overflow.....
It's an aluminum water bottle. Water tastes like shit out of it so it got re-purposed. Distracts people from what is really going on....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 09 2019, 12:25:57 PM
Battery came home with me for a charge. Laptop is going with me next time out. I need to make sure it's all set with HPtuners.
Plan is to fix the tune so it will idle, pull it outside and let it run and it get to temp to cook all the moisture out off it. Once I'm sure she's fairly happy, maybe a trip around the block. All just in time to pack it away for the winter. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 09 2019, 05:23:18 PM
At least it'll be up and running.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 11 2019, 02:05:26 PM
Spent some time on Struggle Street today.
Car would start run for 20-30secs and stall, spent some time with the tune and didn't get anywhere. I found 4 plug wires that weren't clipped to the plugs. Engine runs and idles now but my boost gauge is showing 5" vacuum, map sensor is showing 50-60kpa which is 15-18" of vacuum. Great I have a leak somewhere, I pulled the line to the brake booster off and it still idled, plug it back in and stick my head under the dash and sure enough seems like the booster is leaking. Push the pedal and no assist. Apparently I broke the oil pressure sensor off when I installed the intake.
But the car is on all 4 tires, starts, and runs. I had one small trans leak, but I tightened the fitting and all was well.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 11 2019, 02:47:04 PM
Some days are more frustrating than others....damn boosters do that at times
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 11 2019, 03:28:16 PM
Take your time Jeremy. I always looked at the Buick as not being my DD...so I took my time. Make sure everything is spot on...before you hit the track. I dunno how many times I had locals show up...when their TR shouldn't even have been there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 11 2019, 03:47:15 PM
My local track is closed for the season. I'm in no real rush. My stuff is usually pretty well dialed in from street pulls before I go and try to make some passes at the track. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2019, 12:35:25 PM
Well - I got the booster out today, it's dead. If I play with the seal I can get it to hold 5" vacuum, but as soon as you touch the rod it goes away.
I tested my boost gauge as well and it's toast as well, it leaks internally - it won't hold vacuum or pressure. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2019, 12:48:34 PM
I was able to move the master out of the way. It was definitely a challenge pulling it out. You pretty much have to fight the cowl, strut tower, and the valve cover for space.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 12 2019, 01:42:49 PM
Nasty fitment-kudos on being a contortionist.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 12 2019, 04:06:28 PM
OMG!!!! RUST!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2019, 10:12:47 PM
Yup that's where the clutch master was, doesn't take much brake fluid to create rust. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 17 2019, 02:49:22 PM
Got the booster and boost gauge in today. 
I spent most of the day diagnosing a no start issue. Turned out to be my key. Checks at 4100 ohms were the spare key was 4700 ohms. Spare key makes it through the security reset procedure, the other does not. So the car runs, has power brakes, and a working boost gauge. Time to start tuning.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 17 2019, 04:53:49 PM

Jeremy. It'd be great to do vids of what you're using for fuel management and how to tune it step by step. Remember...not everyone's as smart as you. Keep it simple and dumb it down. There's a million Scoobs wandering around out there. Scoob will flood you with questions on your channel.



Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 17 2019, 04:59:52 PM
For instance. Do a vid on how to ohm a key. Scoob hasn't got a clue.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2019, 11:05:59 AM
I'm taking a day off from the car, my body is pretty pissed today. After working on the car most of the day yesterday I came home and changed a hvac zone damper motor. The old ones failed closed, so I pried them open for the a/c to work. But I'm really sick of the uneven heat so that was enough motivation to get after it. It took some backyard engineering, as it was not a direct replacement. I came up with a piece of 1" long 5/16 rod to use as a drive pin and a 1" long 6-32 machine screw to extended what I would call a locating pin. After that smooth sailing, 2 wire hook up, and it worked. I've got another motor on the way as I had 2 bad ones. I'm saving a good chunk doing this myself. These honeywell motors are sweet - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GWW9M6W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GWW9M6W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 18 2019, 12:07:57 PM
good deal!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 18 2019, 03:08:01 PM
24v AC driven like the industrial stuff?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2019, 03:39:11 PM
Yes
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 18 2019, 06:20:29 PM
Quote from: nocooler
Yes
I am surprised at the stiction those thing have  achieved - stupid design.
Lets turn this motor(magnet) on, drive it against a spring while it moves a damper- THEN NEVER TURN IT OFF. And we wonder why they fail.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2019, 06:29:48 PM
These are normally open so they close when you power them.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 10:01:09 AM
I may have missed my window of good weather - forecasting snow next week.
I did get the dd washed, clayed, sealed and waxed - its good for another year. HVAC in the house is now 100% - all zones holding to thermostat levels. The next project will be cleaning all the damn leaves up!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 10:05:24 AM
Shiny
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 23 2019, 10:28:17 AM
that looks good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 12:41:46 PM
Thanks - its all the products. I'm about out of sealant, I'm thinking of trying a ceramic coating next time around. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 23 2019, 12:47:35 PM
Jeremy...you have Krown Rust Control or Rust Check there? The shit works. Costs about a hundred bucks a year. The stuff creeps. Never a hint of rust on my vehicles.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 23 2019, 12:54:51 PM

Here's a vid...they drill holes...and use wands to get into the inside body panels. Checks locations near you. Maine and Michigan prolly closest to you.


https://www.krown.com/en/locations/united-states/michigan/monroe/munroe
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Brad - we don't. There used to be Ziebart's everywhere but they went to the wayside. My wife's 08 Honda doesn't have any rust, but I've seen others that are falling apart. We actually park in our garage, which I think goes a long way to help preserve your vehicle. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 01:04:37 PM
Actually there are a few locations, interesting.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TexasT on October 23 2019, 02:47:30 PM
Is there a link to these vids on tuning,or key ohming, or what ever you are working on?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 23 2019, 03:15:30 PM
Not yet - I need to get better about that. The key video and explanation would be easy enough - but I've had a sick munchkin home with me this week. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 23 2019, 07:47:13 PM
I heard those guys won't drill holes anymore due to warranty issues?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 23 2019, 09:14:56 PM
Just had my 2019 done a few weeks back. Same procedure.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 24 2019, 02:43:43 PM
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuY-Qp8-3T8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuY-Qp8-3T8&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on October 24 2019, 02:56:29 PM
Looks like you have two many cylinders in there! :P
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 24 2019, 03:16:14 PM
https://youtu.be/_4vhodEjbeY
more fun getting it to run better. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 24 2019, 03:21:21 PM
Between the last video and this one, I spent more time tuning and getting it driveable. I put about 10 miles on it today - it's to the point you can jump in and drive it - but needs a lot more work.
https://youtu.be/xDLogIzbeQg
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 24 2019, 04:26:28 PM
Sounds pretty good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 24 2019, 08:49:59 PM
Fuck yeah!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 25 2019, 09:44:49 AM
.....and this is how I left it yesterday.
Over the winter I'll get a set of 3.25 gears. With the 9" the gear swaps are pretty damn simple, well other than trying to put the over 90lb center section back in the housing. Gravity makes getting it out pretty easy!  :rofl: 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 04 2019, 09:40:17 AM
Ordered some gears on black friday/cyber monday - since they were "on-sale" I splurged a little and went with the REM finished option. After watching and reading some fluff, I decided I'd give it a go. Lets be real these are budget rem polished gears from quick performance. It's an $80 more than there normal budget line. I prefer motive but at the same price, I figured it was worth a shot. The reduction in breaking is worth it to me, I'd have more than $80 in fuel putting 500-1000 miles. I'll heat cycle it a few times, and be easy on it for an undetermined amount of time and then we are moving into WOT pulls. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 04 2019, 09:43:35 AM
Brad is bored.  He will come down and show you how Canuck hockey fans bench pressure a few cold ones as well as diffs
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 05 2019, 11:30:01 PM
I retire on the 18th...so when you get it dialed in I'll come down. Bored...hell no! Building a vintage stereo man cave. Will post a vid on my channel when done.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 31 2019, 08:43:59 PM
Santa brought be a couple more goodies for the Holley setup, protection module for the trans brake input and a can to usb cable. 
Sunday my wife through me a surprise 40th birthday party. The weather has been making things rough for me right now so of course the day I ate a medicated cookie for breakfast was the day of my party. By the time I started paying attention to what my wife was doing my parent showed up and guests were 10-15minutes out. We had a really great turnout and I actually really had a great time.  I also got a set of travel limiters for the front end of the car!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 01 2020, 12:51:46 AM
Then it was a great day! Thank goodness for cookies!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 15 2020, 04:46:47 PM
Got some pressure transducers coming from lowdoller motorsports.
This weather is sucking the life out of me.
Just because I need some sort of motivation, my goal is to try to run a couple 10.0 index races. Wife is completely on board. Still need safety gear - belts, pants, headsock minimum. I’m thinking 3 layer might be a wise choice at this point.
Once the car doesn’t need so much attention I’ll start getting some parts around for the aluminum 5.3.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 15 2020, 05:43:31 PM
A plan is the first step to any adventure. it's always easier to change the plan than it was to make it so you're off to a good start 👍👍
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 16 2020, 09:29:01 AM
Get out and get racing. Hangin' out with the other racers is awesome. My buddy Steve with the turbo'd Hayabusa has his bike tore down...looks like the paint is stripped as well. Sent me a pic. I need to drop by and see what more cool guy stuff he's doing for it this year. As for my R1, it blew a fork seal the day I had it out. I took them out and had the seals and bushings changed. They're back in and it's ready to go. Gotta pick up a smaller front sprocket here in town. Gonna buy a new jacket and pants and gloves. I'm using my race shoes I used with the Buick. I'm geared for May 1st!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 16 2020, 10:21:46 AM
Turbo Time! Scoob!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 16 2020, 11:23:02 AM
Those days are over. Full race exhaust...poss ibly. That's as far as I'm taking it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 16 2020, 11:26:06 AM
Gloves! need those as well.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 16 2020, 12:06:25 PM
Jeremy...order a weather station...you're gonna need it to keep it on its dial. The NA cars don't move around much on temp/humidity changes. But IC cars...oh boy!!! Scoob kept notes on what the car would do on temp/humidity changes...so he got good on keeping the dial close. He'd add/subtract high gear fuel from run to run and leave on the exact RPM each time. I'd see guys run on their exact dial...and I'd just shake my head.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 30 2020, 12:05:08 PM
I got a builder to come out and give me a bid for my pole barn. Damn it ads up quick. Still waiting for the price on the 160 yards of fill and I need to call an electrician. The builder agreed that the way it zoned it's to tight to just build it, so I've called a local surveyor, so we can make sure our ducks are in a row with the township. Fingers crossed I can do a stand-alone building vs attaching it. I haven't looked at heating options yet, and I'm unsure how much heat I'll use. In-floor is nice but it's not an instant heat so it's great if you want to heat 24/7. If I just want to go out and work for a few hours here and there it's kind of overkill. Calculators say about 170,000btu for space - so I'm leaning toward a natural gas ceiling mount unit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 30 2020, 12:21:52 PM
that's probably the best for quick heat especially if positioned where most needed.  In the floor would be really nice in the area where you are most likely to be laying on the floor!  LOL  Or standing, for that matter...cold feed do not encourage me to do anything
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 06 2020, 12:34:50 PM
Once again I'm finding out how much of a pain in the ass my favorite neighbor is. The person we contacted for site prep, fill, and finish dirt work is on the planning commission - said good luck getting it through while my neighbor is still alive. He said if I scale back the size it would be easier to get passed.
My hands are tied until I get it surveyed - then I'll know how much room I have. It's likely I could build a 24'w without a variance, but we will see.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on May 06 2020, 02:51:07 PM
I got a builder to come out and give me a bid for my pole barn. Damn it ads up quick. Still waiting for the price on the 160 yards of fill and I need to call an electrician. The builder agreed that the way it zoned it's to tight to just build it, so I've called a local surveyor, so we can make sure our ducks are in a row with the township. Fingers crossed I can do a stand-alone building vs attaching it. I haven't looked at heating options yet, and I'm unsure how much heat I'll use. In-floor is nice but it's not an instant heat so it's great if you want to heat 24/7. If I just want to go out and work for a few hours here and there it's kind of overkill. Calculators say about 170,000btu for space - so I'm leaning toward a natural gas ceiling mount unit.
Sounds nice!  Are you putting a hoist in?  Don't forget the bar and stripper pole in case Earl drops by! :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 06 2020, 02:58:55 PM
Hoist is the plan - I’m tired of jacking cars up. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 06 2020, 08:20:35 PM
It appears to me that you need to hoist your neighbor.....g et him arrested for putting cones in the road, or something
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 30 2020, 04:19:24 PM
Went to check on my car today. I planned on trying to fire it up, but my dad has the garage packed full of building supplies and he’s been cutting boards in there so it’s a mess. I turned around and walked back out. I guess I’m waiting until I can get it back here to work on it. As there isn’t space for me to do so. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 07 2020, 03:44:33 PM
I found this gem at a garage sale this past weekend.

After buying a new woodchipper that turned out to have a bad engine (crankcase full of water) - and having to get the regional manager of Tractor Supply involved in the return - I figured I'd take a chance on a used chipper.

My only complaint is that it only chips up to 2" diameter. With that being said it rips threw everything I've put through it. Damn thing starts with half a pull, 5.5 Tecumseh. Brush pile is gone and we have mulch for the flower beds - the wife is happy.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 25 2020, 05:33:02 AM
I got some good news this week. The surveyors came out and marked the boundaries of my property. My neighbor with the Vette was surprised to see a stake in what we all thought was his front yard. Since nothing is square in our subdivision we didn't know where that point would fall, and it worked out in my favor!  We thought his house was off the property line by a good 15ft or so, nope it's pretty close to 5ft!
The wife and I strung it out and measured - after the zoning setback/offsets I have a strip just under 32ft wide that I can build on. Unless the survey says it's 33ft - I'm going to build a 30ft wide x 40ft long x 12' high pole barn/garage. I wanted 32ft wide but I don't think the extra 2ft is worth the hassle of a zoning variance. I'm just waiting on a copy of the survey and then I should be good to apply for a permit and wave middle fingers at anyone that bitches. I'll be calling builders next week to get some updated pricing.

 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 25 2020, 09:08:14 AM
That's great news! Get the rest of the neighborhood out there to provide a community double finger salute to the bastard!



Tell him he needs to get his house moved further from the property line...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on July 25 2020, 10:19:14 AM
Very nice!  Can't wait to see it. :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on July 26 2020, 02:37:47 PM
Post progress pics of shop
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 31 2020, 07:26:49 PM
Survey came back I’m an inch and a half short of being able to build 32’ wide. I’m waiting for the builder to call back. Looks like a 30’x40’x12’ is what I’m going to end up with.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 01 2020, 09:23:27 AM
Jeremy...call your builder. Cuz of the virus hoax pressure treated lumber and vinyl siding is in short supply up here. We got enuf pressure treated to do mine...but the vinyl siding is 4-6 weeks off.  Boys just finished off the trusses...and the sheathing will be done today including the roof. Hoping to get the shingles on tomorrow...but thunderstorms are in the forecast. I'm working on the vids.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on August 01 2020, 05:25:20 PM
Brad,


Don't bother with shingles, do it once and be done, go with steel.  I have steel on my house and on my garage at home.  In the next couple years I will be doing steel on my garage at the cottage, never an issue again.


It is well worth the additional money over asphalt shingles.


Take care,
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 01 2020, 05:40:10 PM
Brad - has wondered about supplies, mines going to be post with metal sides/roof I’ll see what he says when I get ahold of him.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 03 2020, 11:05:12 PM
Took some time and laid everything out.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 03 2020, 11:17:40 PM
Has your neighbor noticed where the property line is? Maybe you should put out some orange cones?


Looks nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 04 2020, 08:23:14 AM
Get the video cam going!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 04 2020, 11:06:47 AM
No Steve - Dick has been at his lake house and hasn't been around, I'm sure once he figures out what's going on he will be a big pain in my ass.
What do you want to see Brad - nothing has happened yet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 04 2020, 11:17:29 AM
Neighbours have been great with the build going on here. A few of them have been in the vids. If your neighbour says anything...tel l him to shut the fuck up and go kill himself.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 04 2020, 02:22:57 PM
Trying to keep the peace until the garage is done. After that, I'm looking for creative ways to make a couple of shrubs disappear. They are way too big and make a curve completely blind due to placement. I'm wondering if I can get big enough fireballs out the downpipe on the 2-step to torch them. 
Honestly officer I was just driving by and it started missing all of the sudden!

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 04 2020, 02:29:31 PM
Call the town and tell them about the blind spot. They should send someone out and cut them back or remove them altogether.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 04 2020, 03:23:33 PM
I've tried and other neighbors have tried - the county won't touch them. Basically they don't want to deal with him! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 07 2020, 01:38:02 PM
My builder said the end of November before he can even start. I called around and that's about everyone else's timeline. I'll get another quote but it might be spring before they get started :(
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 07 2020, 06:17:29 PM
Frost could be in the ground by then. Book it for next spring.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 08 2020, 09:59:09 AM
Zoning permit approved! Time to move forward.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 08 2020, 10:29:06 AM
Victory is sweet!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 08 2020, 06:10:19 PM
Can you get the floor poured before the frost gets here.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 08 2020, 08:07:10 PM
Building and concrete will most likely be spring. I'd like to get the fill dirt in before winter hits.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on September 08 2020, 08:57:53 PM
Letting it get tru a freeze/thaw cycle is a good idea! Also concrete will finish better with a summer mix.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 17 2020, 03:18:17 PM
Excavation and site prep will start in a couple of weeks!
I've been busting ass getting ready. I've got the site pretty much cleared other than a big lilac bush that my wife wants to try and root the cuttings. I pounded 15 T posts today for the temporary fence, I'm sure I'll be feeling it tonight/tomorrow. Once I get a date set for the fill and site prep, I've got to hang the temporary fence up and disassemble around 75' of chain link fence. The excavator told me he'd yank the posts out for me. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 23 2020, 03:05:19 PM
Still waiting on excavation - but I've got the builder locked down for spring - as early as we can safely do it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 23 2020, 03:11:47 PM
Has your evil neighbor returned to see the survey stakes?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 23 2020, 03:16:25 PM
Yes - he's been back about a week, and he wasn't missed. He hasn't stuck his nose in it yet - just a matter of time.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 30 2020, 12:36:54 PM
Jeremy, the fake shortage of wood is over...and prices are slowly coming down. If you need wood for your shop...wait the bastards out till the prices come back to normal.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 30 2020, 02:28:47 PM
The issue here is most of the wood comes from Canada and it stays in quarantine at the border for 2 weeks before they release it. Hurricane season isn't helping either. My builder is requoting the project in the spring so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 02 2020, 05:21:10 PM
Funny how things work- last year a friend built a house in Huntsville and drove and picked up all his wood panel siding from Menards in Detroit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 02 2020, 05:31:59 PM
Jeremy I picked up some wood for fencing today. 8 foot untreated construction grade 2x4 was $7.88 and the 10 foot 2x4 was $9.78. Not sure if you guys have wood tariffs to pay for comparative pricing.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on October 04 2020, 09:06:50 AM
Nuts. 25 years ago when I built my cottage I was paying .25/ft for 2x6 SPF
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 04 2020, 10:42:58 AM
Dave, I think the best you'll see an 8 foot 2x4 come down to will prolly be about 6 bucks. I don't think they even sell econo grade anymore. Not sure how much more expensive pressure treated is. The fence from the shop to the house we used deck planking...cuz there was no fence board available. We won't discuss price...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2020, 12:03:31 PM
2x4x8 are $6.04 and 2x4x10 are $7.64 right now at HD. Looks like the supply chain is starting to stabilize. 

The temporary fence is up, the dogs are pissed I took half of their yard away. I disassembled the chain-link fence and pulled all the posts I could by hand. I've got 3 fence posts that are cemented in, but I took the time to dig around them down far enough that they'll be easy to hook a chain to and pull. 

Hopefully next week I'll have some dirt.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on October 08 2020, 01:13:22 PM
Hows OSB pricing? A friend is building a shop and last year 7/16 4x8 sheets were $6, now he paid $23 a sheet!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2020, 01:45:26 PM
OSB is still up there!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 08 2020, 07:22:57 PM
I'll be in HD tomorrow morning for some more concrete. I'll check on press board and plywood sheets.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 12 2020, 02:24:12 PM
4x8 sheet 3/8 CHEAPEST they had was 25 bucks for plywood/chip board. The good stuff...was astronomical.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2020, 05:34:41 PM
That stuff should normalize once the hurricane season is over.
Since my dog is an asshole - I ended up spending the day replacing the plastic temporary fence with welded wire. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on October 13 2020, 12:31:18 PM
Gotta love pets
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 04 2020, 10:18:07 AM
Finally!! You can get an idea of what needs to happen with the grade.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 04 2020, 10:21:19 AM
Looking good...and there's 7 days of warm weather starting today.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on November 05 2020, 10:32:47 AM
That dosent look to far off, a few loads compacted and you will be sailing! Sucks spending money on fill but what ya going to do. I needed 24, 15 yard truckloads...o uch!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 05 2020, 01:21:48 PM
150 yards later.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on November 05 2020, 02:05:26 PM
Lookin good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 05 2020, 03:13:22 PM
Likey!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 05 2020, 04:17:55 PM
The dirt work and fill came in well under the estimate too. I'll need some more fill after the building is up but it'll only be a couple of loads. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on November 05 2020, 04:27:06 PM
gonna be nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 16 2020, 04:48:46 PM
I'm thinking something like this for a work area, loft.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 16 2020, 04:50:19 PM
Basically 2 4'x8' benches, and a 12'x12' loft. Thoughts?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 16 2020, 06:43:51 PM
Make it work for what YOU want. I did my shop up the way I wanted. If it serves its purpose for you, then go for it! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 17 2020, 09:35:32 AM
The builder came out and looked at the site prep and had some concerns, but they are all fixable and we have time. Thankfully we need to add not take away.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on November 17 2020, 09:45:51 AM
Good that your builder cares enuf to get it to his wants
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on November 17 2020, 12:45:19 PM
to lazy to look back, what size are you going with?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 17 2020, 01:19:59 PM
30'x40'x12'
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on November 17 2020, 06:49:48 PM
Same as my shop. It's a good size
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on November 17 2020, 08:21:46 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 23 2020, 11:43:28 AM
Spent all weekend doing maintenance on the daily drivers.
2018 Honda CRV got an oil change, air filter and cabin air filter. 11,000 miles on the clock
2006 Honda Civic got an oil change, trans fluid change, coolant drain and re-fill, new spark plugs, air filter, and cabin air filter. 101k on the clock. The civic is due for a valve lash check/adjustment - but it's so damn quiet I really don't want to mess with it right now.
Honda is proud of their coolant at $25 a gallon, but the 101k mile stuff that came out was barely darker than the new stuff.
The CRV is due for a tire rotation - I'm going to try and get that done this week too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on November 23 2020, 03:52:04 PM
I'm going to take a nap!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: IL KIM on December 04 2020, 07:09:02 AM
Jeremy, looking good. Thoughts for you to consider on the work area sketch. Is the concrete floor level or will it be on a slight grade?  May want to raise the bottom shelving off the concrete to allow you to make it level and also allow room for your toes while using the 2nd level, or just to allow for sweeping/vacuuming the floor.

If you want want it on the floor you may not need all those cross-joists - maybe one in the middle going opposite direction to save on wood costs.  Anyway, Like said by others, build it the way you want it and build it to last.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 04 2020, 09:27:39 AM
Jeremy, any architectural drawings to share. Guy that built mine is also an architect. Just about shit when I saw the drawings. That was enuf to hire him immediately.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 04 2020, 10:23:52 AM
Concrete should be level. I was considering moving the kickboards to the back of the 4x4s, for some toe space. Thanks for the ideas!

Brad the only stuff I have is what I've drawn. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 04 2020, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: nocooler
Concrete should be level. I was considering moving the kickboards to the back of the 4x4s, for some toe space. Thanks for the ideas!

Brad the only stuff I have is what I've drawn. 
Jeremy, hope you have a good water supply. Takes a ton of it to cool the concrete. Takes 28 days to fully cure.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 04 2020, 10:40:19 AM
Any idea what the total electrical cost is? Mine was 50 bucks per receptacle/switch/light fixture...and God knows what the trenching, wiring from inside the house and breaker box in the shop totaled up too. Slab was 10 grand.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 04 2020, 11:21:02 AM
I haven't even talked to the electrician yet.....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 04 2020, 11:43:16 AM
I've got times setup for fencing and electrical quotes now, heating is the only thing I haven't checked on now. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 04 2020, 11:59:11 AM
Concrete is roughly $13k - that is the 30x40x6" slab for the barn, 900sq/ft approach, and 600 sq/ft patio in the back yard.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 04 2020, 12:30:19 PM
Concrete work is insanely expensive around here...tho I prolly went overkill on it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 08 2020, 08:24:56 PM
Met with the electrician tonight. I'll probably fall over when I see the quote, all the garage electrical, and a whole house generator. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: IL KIM on December 09 2020, 09:15:12 AM
Funny, I just had a 22kw installed and am sitting here waiting for the contractor to come start it up for the 1st time, after Mechanical Final inspection passed on Monday. $10,000 for purchase and installation for your comparison needs. Good luck. We’re tired of being the last ones to regain power whenever it goes out and seems to go out more nowadays compared to years past.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 09 2020, 09:35:09 AM
You guys are smart ponying up the cost for an installation.  The electrical grid is generally in bad disrepair and outages may be more frequent as time goes by whether the failure is due to an act of nature or simply old equipment and delivery system.

One of these days, two thirds of California will have no water and many places have failing utility systems in general.  Us country boys will be better off when the dust settles.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 09 2020, 11:59:21 AM
I agree Steve, no one gives a shit that the infrastructure around us is falling apart. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 09 2020, 07:10:21 PM
The town I'm in grew...and they didn't upgrade the electrical grid. Power kicks on and off here on a regular basis.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 15 2020, 11:02:13 AM
What is it with people?
The guy doing the excavation work told me he'd be here the Monday after thanksgiving and knock it out no problem. I've been calling him 2-3x a week trying to touch base - and last night he finally called me back and told me he's done for the winter due to health issues. So now I've wasted another month grrr - the only reason I hadn't called someone else is he is on the township board. A simple call weeks ago would have been nice.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 15 2020, 01:50:26 PM
pretty much typical, I am afraid
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 20 2020, 03:00:40 PM
The generator was just under $10k and the electrical including lights was $5500. 
Waiting for the heating/gas and fencing places to get back with me. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 21 2020, 10:06:17 AM
sounds like a barnominium to me...pretty much ideal!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: IL KIM on December 21 2020, 12:52:09 PM
It’ll be worth it and you’ll love it in the end.  Sounds like you’re doing it right once!  Good luck.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 30 2020, 02:50:41 PM
My wife got me a pretty nice set of Milwaukee m18 powertools for Christmas.
The 1/2 impact makes all the other impacts I've had a joke, even my air. I'm excited to play with them!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 30 2020, 02:59:59 PM
Milwaukee builds good stuff! That impact is the bee's knees!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 30 2020, 08:34:07 PM
The impact is almost too good. I was playing with it and I snugged up a lug nut with it. I figured I’d check it with the torque wrench. Yeah the lug was tighter than 150ft/lbs and I had to use the impact to remove it.
this thing will probably break a ls crank bolt loose. I normally have to use a 6ft cheater on my breaker bar to knock them loose.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on December 31 2020, 02:37:31 PM
I like the M18 stuff, been retiring much of my NICAD gear (except for a few key BOSCH pieces).
Your Mrs dun good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 29 2021, 02:53:16 PM
It pays to have good credit and shop around when you are looking for loans. We ended up at a local credit union. They got us into a 2nd mortgage @ 1.99% over 12 years. We were able to pull out enough equity to pay the 1st mortgage off and cover our project. All they required was an appraisal ($350) and an $89 document fee. We close on Tuesday!
I met with the builder this week and he put in the order for materials. I applied for the building permits Wednesday - I'll call and check on it next week. I still need to wrangle up the fencing company and someone to finish the fill dirt/grading. 
 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 29 2021, 09:17:17 PM
I hope that permit goes thru fast!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 01 2021, 03:16:57 PM
So HPTuners conveniently sent out a firmware update to kill the mpvi 1 cable and is forcing everyone to the new mpvi 2. Of course, I figured this out after I plugged in my cable in and it nuked it. It's $289 for the mpvi 2 or someone has figured out how to roll the firmware back but wants $150 to do it. 
I guess I'm not going to piggyback the holley with the stock ecm anymore so the factory dash won't work, I guess I'm buying a Holley dash.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 01 2021, 04:10:48 PM
I either figured out the $150 secret or had good luck, but I was able to revert the firmware and it's working again.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 01 2021, 05:16:27 PM
That keeps some money in your pocket for a little while!

Some of these new dashes are beginning to look really nice to me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on February 01 2021, 07:41:41 PM
Why are they killing an older cable? somebody has cloned it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 01 2021, 08:25:24 PM
Someone hacked the software and it basically allowed unlimited credits. The new cable calls home and requires an internet connection for licensing. The bug is on the cable end and they couldn't fix it. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 24 2021, 01:01:09 PM
Snow is melting fast - builder is coming Monday to get started on the project!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 24 2021, 02:49:48 PM
Hopefully, it will hold up and let the concrete cure good.  I think some of this new concrete is made for cold weather use.

We had thunder this month so the old saying says it will freeze in April!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 24 2021, 03:17:15 PM
Concrete won't be poured yet - just starting the building. Grade still needs to be fixed but the builder can work around it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 02 2021, 08:23:00 AM
This was day 1 progress. 3 Amish kids, they busted ass.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 02 2021, 09:57:12 AM
Progress with a good start!   the way the things are going, the Amish and the Mennonites may be the only people working in this country
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 02 2021, 10:12:43 AM
If everyone had their work ethic we would live in a much better world!
It was 9*F with a nice wind this morning so about -5F this morning. Didn't stop them - the trusses are up and almost fully tied. They finally took a break @ 9:45 to warm up. Pretty sure metal is going up today!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 02 2021, 10:59:21 AM
Amazing how quickly a team of guys can work if they know what they are doing.  They would make a good pit crew.  

Keep them full of hot chocolate or whatever they like!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 10:23:03 AM
This is where they left it yesterday -
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 03 2021, 01:26:52 PM
you take any pictures of them lifting the joists, etc?

Three kids, any supervision?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 01:46:31 PM
4 kids the oldest might be 20 and the youngest maybe 13. No supervision they know what needs to be done and get after it. They are Amish so I've held back taking pictures while they work as I don't want to upset or offend them. They used a skid steer to lift them and had one guy on each side to get them anchored. 
Today most of the metal is up, they are 2 sheets short, and don't have the windows to install. So they split up 2 of them started on my garage roof and the other two are finishing up what they can do on the barn. 
I was a little worried at first when I saw how young they were - but after the building inspector told me he wished all crews did half as good of a job as thees kids. He was impressed. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 03 2021, 01:57:34 PM
I am impressed!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 03:42:42 PM
Day 3
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 03 2021, 04:04:35 PM
that is one heck of a building :cheers:

Are the vertical posts set into concrete?  And will the floor be poured around them?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 04:10:58 PM
Poles are set in concrete, with a 16" pylon and everything else required by MI building codes.
Grade has to come up to 2" below the footer and then the concrete will come up halfway through the footer and tie all the posts together.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 03 2021, 05:29:53 PM
It's really nice!  You will be ready as soon as it is warm up to want to go outside, I think
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 08:32:07 PM
I don't know why I said pylons - the poles are 42" in the ground supported by 8" thick x 16" diameter concrete footers, and concrete - I don't think they'll move :) 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 08:42:32 PM
Doh- Looks like they/we completely forgot the vapor barrier on the side walls. That's going to suck if they have to pull down the steel. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on March 03 2021, 09:43:32 PM
If you spray closed cell foam on the walls your code may not require it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 03 2021, 11:16:23 PM
It's listed on the quote and on the county's pole barn worksheet, which is posted in the front yard with the building permit. It's possible that it might not be needed fingers crossed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 04 2021, 08:28:01 AM
And it turned out to not be a big deal - they are taking care of it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 04 2021, 08:59:10 AM
Great!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 06 2021, 05:58:47 PM
They managed to get the vapor barrier on and the steel back up, and they reshingled the attached garage.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 06 2021, 06:37:57 PM
very nice
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Post by: Forzfed on March 09 2021, 02:58:47 PM
very nice

ditto!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 14 2021, 03:31:00 PM
Today I put our new mailbox up since the snowplow took it out 3 weeks ago. 
While I had the 1/4 impact out I figured I'd see how it does - the damn thing will knock lugnuts loose without an issue! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 14 2021, 03:36:20 PM
Amazing how power some of them have
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on March 14 2021, 05:08:35 PM
Wow, now I want to try my 1/4" impact to see if it will do that.  Mine is a Makita and I normally use a 1/2" electric impact gun (Makita as well) to take lug nuts off but now I am wondering if my 1/4" will and if it will, do I have enough adapters to use my 1/2" impact sockets??   :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 14 2021, 05:17:58 PM
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-SHOCKWAVE-Impact-Duty-1-4-in-Hex-Shank-Socket-Adapter-Set-3-Piece-48-32-5033/204408619 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-SHOCKWAVE-Impact-Duty-1-4-in-Hex-Shank-Socket-Adapter-Set-3-Piece-48-32-5033/204408619) - these make it easy
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 14 2021, 10:45:44 PM
I should mention - these are normally torqued lugs - all bets are off when the tire jockeys hammer them on with the wobble sticks.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on March 15 2021, 02:37:09 AM
I use a torque wrench on all of my vehicles as well when I tighten the lug nuts up to spec.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 17 2021, 01:13:07 PM
Had to get some pictures for the insurance company - so I figured I'd share. Like a moron, I forgot my battery charger and tools. Luckily I was able to find an 8mm wrench, a small crescent wrench, and a battery charger among all Dad's stuff. It took a couple of minutes to top the battery off, while it was charging I yanked the wideband sensor out. The damn thing fired on the first try in 36*F weather! So I backed it out and let it go through a heat cycle to burn any moisture out while I took pictures.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 17 2021, 01:22:06 PM
Looks good to me.  A much better harbinger of spring than robins!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 22 2021, 08:17:44 PM
More progress!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 22 2021, 09:37:27 PM
Gonna be really nice. I'm still amazed how fast they put it up
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on March 23 2021, 11:03:40 AM
Your going to love the white steel ceiling 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on March 24 2021, 07:31:50 PM
:)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2021, 09:55:40 AM
^-that pretty much sums it up.

I'm still waiting on dirt. Load restrictions come off the roads today - but the guy doing the work took another job tiling fields and won't be done for another 2 weeks or so. I'm just about done with this guy - but I don't think I'd get anyone else here any faster. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 26 2021, 11:35:37 AM
Here is next week's project. I have a 10-yard dumpster coming Tuesday. All the bricks need to be pulled so they can pour us a new patio when they pour the barn floor and approach.
The kids were really excited when I told them I had a spring break project  :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 26 2021, 08:43:39 PM
I bet they were! :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 03 2021, 07:06:05 PM
10 yard dumpster nearly full.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 20 2021, 03:20:26 PM
Still waiting on dirt....
I was going to have one of the excavators open a trench for gas/electricity, but since none of them have been calling me back I started digging it myself. 180ish ft, I have 2 weeks before the electrician is going to start. Today I got about 1/3 of it opened up, it'll still need to be deeper but busting the sod/roots is the hard part. Probably not what I should be doing, but screw it - I'm tired of assholes holding me up. It'll save some green too, and the boys need to learn how to properly use a shovel! I've been trying to teach them if they work hard enough at anything they can do it, but then they bring up that they want to be "YouTubers" when they grow up. Oh to be 9 and 6 again!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 20 2021, 03:29:00 PM
LOL, yep, I have heard some wanting to be you tubers myself down here.  Old fashioned jobs are out the window.  Are you renting a ditcher?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 20 2021, 03:57:16 PM
Nope shoveling all by hand.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 20 2021, 05:06:20 PM
No wonder they want to be you tubers lol
Shades of my Dad
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 21 2021, 02:30:59 PM
I ended up filling 30 some feet back in and changing course as the roots were just too thick. I probably got another 50ft opened up Once it's all open I'll deal with the roots and then start digging deeper. As far as how deep it depends on how far apart the gas and electric need to be. Waiting for a call back - I've heard the same trench with anywhere from 6"-24" of soil separating them is fine.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 22 2021, 11:32:43 AM
It would take all day to dig five feet here in limestone country.  In your case, DITCHWITCH!! LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 22 2021, 04:25:25 PM
It's fully opened up, just need to dig it to depth. 
Put in an order for some direct burial 6 cat network cable and termination stuff, since the trench is open might as well do it.
It used to be pretty common here to just pound a pipe into the ground for a well vs actually drilling. We are talking 40-60ft wells thought. Pretty sandy up here. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 01 2021, 10:44:49 PM
The wife and I finished the trench today.
The electrician comes Monday to start!
Finally found an excavator that returns calls, so I have him booked to bring dirt and fix the grade. We need 40-50yards in the building and over 200 yards outside - yeah you could say the previous guy missed the grade by a little.
I don't know what hurts worse my body from digging the trench or my ass from the $$$ I have to spend to fix someone else's fuck up.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 05 2021, 11:29:12 AM
Here are some pictures.
I need to fork the trench toward the back of the building for the gas and network cables, other than that we are still waiting on dirt.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 05 2021, 11:32:08 AM
and the first pic from my new iphone....
Rough electrical is done!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 05 2021, 02:29:08 PM
I am exhausted after looking at the length and depth of that ditch! I bet your kids ran away from home!

It is going to be a great shop!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 05 2021, 04:13:41 PM
I'm sore just looking at that ditch
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 06 2021, 03:08:34 PM
another 40ft today - this was all sand. Split off for the gas line and network cable.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 06 2021, 08:19:49 PM
Hey, show me the inside of that panel.

That is a lot of trench. No room for a ditchwitch?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 07 2021, 10:37:05 AM
Here are the guts
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 07 2021, 10:20:32 PM
Most respectable
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 09 2021, 12:46:01 PM
Neat work!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 10 2021, 10:27:54 AM
So my neighbor's 03 GMC sierra had a random dash fire this weekend. He wants it gone so we came up with an agreement, now I have to drag it home.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 10 2021, 10:30:34 AM
I'll be keeping the engine - gen 3 5.3 and probably parting the rest, it's not really worth saving.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 29 2021, 08:12:08 PM
Still no dirt - but we got gigabit ethernet!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 29 2021, 08:14:02 PM
and we passed rough inspection for the gas line
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 29 2021, 08:32:32 PM
and as far as the truck goes. The seats and console went to my brother. His truck was owned by a fat ass that wore the seat out before the rest of the truck.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 29 2021, 09:44:27 PM
progress may be slow, but you are getting there!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 10 2021, 09:15:24 AM
Took the kids to the car meet downtown last night.  Zach demanded to have his picture taken in front of his favorite car.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 10 2021, 11:43:13 AM
Great taste at an early age!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 11 2021, 03:33:26 PM
We have dirt!
Waiting for some calls on Concrete.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 11 2021, 03:55:44 PM
the slope is more obvious now..that concrete has gone thru the ceiling around here.  But then so have most things.  When you live in the boondocks, it only gets worse
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on June 11 2021, 04:25:05 PM
Looks good, keep the pictures coming!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on June 11 2021, 07:54:24 PM
Looks nice
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 15 2021, 11:58:00 PM
We seeded grass this weekend but I have zero expectations. I just need something growing to stop the dirt from washing down the hill currently.
Concrete is supposed to be happening at the end of next week! 
I need to remove torque converter bolts, motor mount bolts, and a couple of grounds and the 5.3 should be ready to pull out of the junk truck. I guess I should drain the fluids too! 
 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 21 2021, 08:13:07 AM
I was beginning to think this day wouldn't come!
Barn today, approach tomorrow, and patio Wednesday!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 21 2021, 08:45:22 AM
 :rock: :rock: :rock: :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on June 21 2021, 02:57:15 PM
NICE!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 21 2021, 05:32:09 PM
More pictures
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Post by: Shimy87 on June 22 2021, 12:11:46 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 22 2021, 01:20:43 PM
That is looking really good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 22 2021, 01:39:03 PM
The approach is poured!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 22 2021, 01:41:30 PM
I was told the 3 guarantees on concrete
It gets hard, it'll crack and no one will steal it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 22 2021, 02:01:59 PM
an honest bunch.  If there is enuf steel in it, it may crack, but it will not go anywhere
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 01 2021, 03:26:14 PM
Some updates
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Post by: Steve Wood on July 01 2021, 04:03:28 PM
Very nice!
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Post by: TWIN86GNS on July 01 2021, 05:27:10 PM
That looks amazing.  I have been watching and enjoying all of your pictures, thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on July 01 2021, 07:07:20 PM
👍👍
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 01 2021, 09:32:22 PM
Thanks, we have been busting ass!
The cement guys somehow splattered their mud all over our siding and our garage was full of cement dust after relief cutting the patio. So we pressure washed the house and ended up pulling everything out of the garage and power washing the garage out. Damn near everything needed to be washed before it could be put back - but it's done, and no more sand being tracked into the house. 
I'm looking at options to protect the concrete, I'm thinking of trying a sealer on the approach and patio, but I don't know about it in the barn. Epoxy looks nice but looks like a lot of work. It needs to fully cure before I can get to any of that nonsense. 
Tomorrow is moving more black dirt around, and I'd like to get more grass planted.
Foam insulation is holding up progress on the shop, last week of July - then everything should start happening. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 09 2021, 10:41:45 PM
Fence next week, getting quotes on gutters, and lifts.
This is the lift one place recommended - https://directlift.com/product/dl9/ but it's back-ordered until sometime in September. He does have these in stock for about $800 more so $4500ish installed https://www.forwardlift.com/product/i10/ the ALI certification is nice, and it looks like a nice unit. I need to do some more research. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 09 2021, 11:47:00 PM
That is a nice lift!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on July 10 2021, 09:59:25 AM
One feature to watch for is a single lever locking release like this one has. My first one had this. Thought it was a standard thing. The one I have now. You have to pull a cable loop on both sides. The single lever was WAY more convenient
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 12 2021, 06:37:00 PM
So the doors in the attached garage were junk, but they opened and closed nicely. I had to remove the rear door for them to pour the cement, and it needed to be raised an inch. No big deal I cobbled it together but thought I'd see if the guy building the barn would replace them, and he agreed to the job.
Well, it was a Friday job and the Amish kid had a hot date at the fish fry in his community so he wanted to leave by noon. The picture is what I got on one door. I guess this is close enough the door will shut if you push hard enough on it, but it's in a horrible bind. The back door isn't in a bind but it's too tight to the latch to the point you either have to slam it or turn the knob to close it. And he didn't take the 2 seconds to sweep the mess that he created around the door - so there is Jobsite mess in the caulk.
I'm fully capable of half-ass, why would I pay for it? Hell, I would have at least messed with it until it shut good enough that the wife and kids wouldn't bitch. I'm waiting for the builder to call me back so I can ask him how he wants to fix this. I was going to say something while his worker was here but I needed time to double-check things and make sure I wasn't overreacting.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 12 2021, 07:15:04 PM
I am surprised this is all that is wrong.  I would have expected to fight a bunch of problems given the labor down here.  I suspect the contractor will fix it up....first sign of humanity I have seen out of those kids.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 12 2021, 09:10:11 PM
It is not all that's wrong - a bunch of little stuff on the barn that I was trying hard to let go of and I still might. Depending on how this is handled. It's easy to find the bad when you are upset - but the big picture is I have a barn, and I'll be using it as a barn. I can fix the doors, but I think my wife would literally kick my ass...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 12 2021, 09:35:31 PM
Women are bad about things like that...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on July 13 2021, 11:30:35 AM
agree with Steve on that, we built a house 2 years ago. Contractor built house, I built my shop same time......I finished way ahead of them and house had/has several issues that I could take care of but instead she insists the contractor return to take care of them....which is taking forever, she gets madder every month but wont let me just get it done. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: ~JM~ on July 13 2021, 06:54:20 PM
Hired a painting contractor for residential exterior repaint...

Fairly simple, single story, 3/2 w/2-car garage.

I'm now in painter hell!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 15 2021, 08:33:04 PM
placed a deposit on the lift today!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 15 2021, 09:59:32 PM
Good deal!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 16 2021, 07:33:01 PM
Access point installed!
8ft ladder with the 12ft ceiling was a little sketchy but I managed.
I'm tempted to add one more access point in the attached garage then I'd have our property pretty much covered, the attached garage and out front, the signal is a little weak.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 22 2021, 08:50:44 PM
I've been trying to decide what I want to protect all the concrete with. I've looked at sealers for the patio/approach and epoxy/polyeura for the barn. Having someone come do the floor is $5-$6 a square/foot which is about what the concrete cost itself. Right now I'm seriously considering going with ghost shields 8510 https://ghostshield.com/product/siloxa-tek-8510. Does anyone here have any floor coating experience? 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 23 2021, 02:18:48 PM
Foam Insulation is getting sprayed Monday!
I ordered the GhostShield for the concrete. They said it'd be perfectly fine without acid etching or diamond grinding. Hopefully, it's as good as everyone says it is, as I've got nearly 20 gallons of it on the way!
Grass is coming in nicely - fence went in on Monday!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 23 2021, 02:48:13 PM
That grass took off!  Looks great!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on July 23 2021, 05:07:48 PM
Looking good, grass came in great on the slopes!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 26 2021, 02:37:25 PM
Foam is done!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 30 2021, 11:36:47 AM
Steel is up on the inside. I'm not 100% happy but I'm at the point I just want to start using my barn. I was thinking they'd use a channel at the bottom of the walls but they did not. They didn't have a 1/2" steel drill bit so they used a 1/2" wood spade to drill the holes in the metal for the electrical. The boxes will cover it but wow. I offered to let them use my bits and holesaw kit, but they didn't. I asked them to drill a hole for the garage door openers and told them I'd mount them, and they took it upon themselves to mount them. The steel was dirty from sitting around and that's how they put it up. Half of the barn they put the dirty end toward the roof. I spent yesterday cleaning, and still have more to do today.
They are taking care of all my other complaints about the doors and replacing 5 sheets of exterior metal that they scuffed the crap out of while installing and re-installing 2x. I know I'm picky and a pain in the ass, and I'm trying really hard not to be a dick, it's just barn right?
I'm glad I ran 2 network cables - as I forgot I had them tucked behind a post, and they are permanently foamed there now. One of them was long enough to make it through the wall and be punched down, the other is just hanging out.
I'm glad it's Friday - it's been a long week!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: xracerx13 on July 30 2021, 11:52:37 AM
wheres the car lift?  :player:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 30 2021, 12:29:41 PM
2 weeks out!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 30 2021, 05:50:31 PM
You paid for it.  You should get it.  Sure is nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on August 02 2021, 03:10:18 PM
nice shop!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on August 02 2021, 04:05:52 PM
Damn, that is an amazing looking shop!!!!  You should be very proud of it once you are done.  How many square feet is it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 03 2021, 10:54:00 PM
Just a shot of how light it is with just the 2 windows. Electrical over the next couple days!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on August 04 2021, 11:18:09 AM
With that white steel if you put in 4 nice LED lights you will love how bright it will be!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 04 2021, 01:52:56 PM
How about (18) 4ft lighting fixtures with t8 LEDs in them. I'll have pictures this afternoon :D
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 04 2021, 03:33:27 PM
It is almost bright enough to need your sunglasses/sunscreen. The camera doesn't pick it all up.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 04 2021, 03:42:04 PM
Very Nice!  I think it is time to get that thunderchicken sitting in there with some tools around it.  You can paint the floor around it LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 08 2021, 07:42:57 PM
The car is home. Put it on the charger, dumped 5 gallons of e85 in it, flashed the computer, and drove home. The tune needs some work but other than that all was good. Transmission bangs 2nd and 3rd pretty good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 08 2021, 10:49:29 PM
Love that color!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 10 2021, 04:38:46 PM
2 big things started today! The lift has a leaky seal in one of the cylinders, so they have to warrantee it but I can use it as is until they can replace it. Still needs to be hard-wired but it's a nice unit. I really wish I would have been able to seal the floor first, but my back says no way. I've got a doctor's appointment tomorrow to see how bad it's messed up. Hopefully, I just need to take it easy for a few weeks.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 10 2021, 07:00:41 PM
If you don't mess it up too badly, the floor, not your back, you can seal it later.

I'm glad that roof is not any lower!  You have done a tremendous about of work since the fall.

Sooner or later, you will wish you had a loft
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on August 11 2021, 01:46:28 PM
looks great
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on August 12 2021, 11:55:05 AM
Garage looks awesome! :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2021, 08:31:27 PM
Not much has changed. The lift got its cylinder replaced, the electrician stopped and and wired the lift and air compressor. Builder still needs to replace some of the panels on the outside, but they sent him the wrong color last week. He swears the place is cursed, which it probably is, but a lot of his issues fall on his foreman. 
The boys are going back to school Monday - thank goodness! I love them to death and will miss them, but it’s time. Dad needs a break from kids and Minecraft. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 02 2021, 02:13:34 AM
Gutters went up today - 2 hours and they had it knocked out.
The builder came back Tuesday afternoon - they had the right color steel finally! They found out it was almost 1" too short after they tore everything off. This has to be costing him money now, maybe the 3rd time they'll get it right?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 02 2021, 09:24:54 AM
This job started with a bang once the builders could get on it and I was amazed at the speed the teen age crew worked.  It sure has changed with regard to getting it finished but it is still going to be a great shop outside the aggravation of getting it wrapped up.  It's a beautiful shop! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 02 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Today the builder showed up himself with metal from another job and took care of it. We agreed everything was done and I paid out the remaining balance. 
I've got about half of the barn masked off so I can get this floor sealed. I've spent the last couple of days cleaning the floor, and at this point, if the stains haven't come out they aren't coming out - they have lightened significantly and I'm done messing with it. It's time to get this sealed and start making messes!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 08 2021, 08:28:40 PM
I replaced the temporary cardboard attic access cover with a piece of OSB. Looks better and hopefully, I'm done with insulation being blown around!
We got all the patio and approach cleaned and primed with a densifier last weekend. This weekend the sealer is going down. These damn leaves need to go away and stop leaving stains until I'm done!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 13 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Concrete is sealed. Everything turned out nice. Inside the barn the floor is still cloudy/spotted looks like over application. It may clear up and it may not, I'm over it - time to get to work!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on September 13 2021, 04:12:10 PM
Nice shop. Once you have a few oil or tranny fluid spills you wont care anymore :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 13 2021, 05:39:28 PM
Now you need more cars!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 15 2021, 01:15:59 PM
I'm sure that will come with time!
I need to get the firebird somewhat sorted out before I start messing with another car. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 17 2021, 09:55:41 PM
It's pretty bad when the unbranded oil drain can shows up branded "red sun" - I had to slap some stickers on it and cover that crap up!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 18 2021, 09:23:33 AM
good Save!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 21 2021, 02:45:39 PM
New IAC is in - the old one had 2 issues, the motor broke free from the flange allowing it to spin 360*, and it was missing the o-ring! I guess that'd explain the whistle at idle. It's raining and humid here today so I'm not going to test until tomorrow, I don't need to fog out the barn, when I can wait a day or two. The e85 smells fine it's the old pump gas in the tank that makes the exhaust smell nasty!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 23 2021, 01:49:37 PM
The $7 IAC surprised me, it actually works. I was worried when the part was shipped in a padded envelope and packaged in a plastic bag. I spent about an hour dialing in the fuel table this morning. A couple of trips around the subdivision and it's finally close enough that it doesn't cough when you roll into boost. So I hit the man road and rolled into some boost! Holy sheep shit this thing is already starting to come around. It did its normal standing up and starting to move around so it was starting to make some power. Boost comes on quick and held 7psi on a short rip. When the wastegate opens it sounds a little rowdy - so I decided to put it away before I got myself in any trouble. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 23 2021, 07:15:27 PM
Finally!  Onward and upward!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 28 2021, 08:26:18 PM
Stuff is starting to find its way in!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 28 2021, 11:53:42 PM
One of these days you will look back and wish it was this empty again
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 30 2021, 03:47:18 PM
This showed up today! 10 minutes later my Dad stopped by, so he got roped into helping me assemble this thing.
Made in Kalamazoo Michigan. It's 12 gauge powder-coated steel, and they packed it like they actually care about their product! It's 6ft wide and 36" deep with some height adjustment.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: IL KIM on October 01 2021, 08:16:48 AM
Looking awesome!  You could run a repair shop outa there. Congrats.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 01 2021, 08:51:09 PM
Did my first oil change yesterday!
I was able to yank the 5.3 out of the junk truck this afternoon. Everything went smooth until I hooked up the chain and cherry picker, then that bitch fought me for all it was worth but I won.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 05 2021, 10:48:41 PM
Drained the fuel out today - about 20 gallons worth. Milwaukee M18 batteries run fuel pumps pretty darn good!
Saved the wheels/tires to sell, and the rear end for my brother.
I'm working on a deal for another project - should put some of these spare parts to decent use.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 06 2021, 01:08:26 AM
You need a step side project to set on recent running gear
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 06 2021, 11:44:47 AM
Scrap was $180 a ton - cleared $300 on the body/frame with the trans/transfer case and front diff. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 06 2021, 09:50:42 PM
Jeremy, where did you buy that drill driven pump?

You did all right on the scrap iron! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 06 2021, 11:41:16 PM
I ran the in tank fuel pump with a M18 drill battery. Put some hose on the feed line under the hood and started filling gas cans. When the pump started getting loud the tank was empty - haha. It would have been handy had I been able to find the wires under the hood but I ended up dropping the tank and splicing in at the weather pack connector. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 06 2021, 11:57:24 PM
ah, okay.  One of my buicks has been blocked up in the air by the wagon we have been working on.  Gas is over a year old.   Looks like I need to put the wagon on the lift somehow but I figure I probably need to get rid of the old gas and hope that the tank is not jelly inside....

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2021, 01:37:35 PM
I don't think any of the cheaper drill attachment pumps are fuel-rated.
Something like this should work Steve. Stuff the hose down the filler neck into the tank and start pumping. https://smile.amazon.com/SEEBOO-Universal-Compatible-Carburetors-Generators/dp/B08ZYMYX58/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2TBJYY2AV8GKS&dchild=1&keywords=electric+fuel+pump+12v+universal&qid=1633627784&sprefix=electric+f%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-5
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2021, 02:12:27 PM
yes, that would work and you are right.  None of the drill pumps are rated for gasoline due to the spark potential.  I am in the middle of a quandary at the moment.  On my T type, I can pump it out thru the rail or the fuel line at the back.  On the wagon, I need some kinda of pump.

I am concerned because they have both sitting for a year and a half.  It may be okay.  Might be able to pour a little
 fresh fuel in the tank if it has not gone completely bad on me...

Thanks for the link
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 12 2021, 08:18:32 PM
Ordered shelving today! 8ft High, 17' wide, and 2' deep. Should be enough to get started!

What's everyone using for air compressor plumbing? Looks like Rapid air pretty much has the market nailed. I'm thinking the 3/4" flexible aluminum line, the 100% nylon seems like it's asking for issues down the road.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 16 2021, 10:59:09 AM
The shop has tunes now, and mini-fridge.  Still waiting on some more shelf parts but, I have 6ft of it assembled. And yes, that is 2750lbs per beam!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on October 16 2021, 03:29:57 PM
Looking good!  Where is the stripper pole and bar? :icon_lol:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 16 2021, 07:39:18 PM
Cleaned up the car and took it downtown for a little cruise in. My youngest son rode with me on the way there and was smiling ear to ear, on the way home I laid into it pretty good and my oldest son was riding with me. He chewed my ass out, told me I was going to go to jail for speeding   :rofl:
 A 7psi pull on slicks felt pretty good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 17 2021, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: Forzfed
Looking good!  Where is the stripper pole and bar? (http://www.ihadav8.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_lol.gif)
The stripper pole needs to be removable so, I can take it down and kick the strippers out before the wife gets home. The fridge was my beer fridge back from when I was able to drink alcohol, now it's got water and Coke in it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 18 2021, 10:04:01 AM
Nice shop Jeremy!!! I'm always a sucker for burgundy/wine colored vehicles. Billet Specialties look mean as fuck on it. If you're gonna put a vintage stereo system in the shop, do it now. Prices are rising on a daily basis. I drove 2.5 hours for a Toshiba tuner, pre amp and amp on Saturday circa 1978-81 to add to the shop. Also picked up an EQ for it as well. For home theater I use Yamaha for ease of setup. Paradigm speakers are nice for home theater. I use strictly Realistic speakers for vintage. They'll hold their own against anything. Pioneer SX 780 is the highest selling vintage receiver of all time so you should find one...but expect to pay around 5-600 bucks for a recapped one. I have a 680, 780 and 980 in the man cave. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 18 2021, 10:14:20 AM
brad, you have not shown us many pictures of your shop since construction had begun.  Looks really nice from what I saw the other day.

Burgundy is where it's at, for sure.  He needs a thunderchicken on the hood with some "living fire" to embellish it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2021, 12:26:02 PM
How about this?
https://youtu.be/Ha4cdAW9XR4
 (https://youtu.be/Ha4cdAW9XR4)
Brad I’ve got more than enough sound with these 2 6.5”bookshelf speakers and 10” powered sub. Speakers are the Dayton b652 driven off a t-amp, and the sub is a Polk audio. While not anything high end, it jams pretty good.

All the old guys flocked to my car like stink on shit as soon as I rolled into the the cruise in. They were all picking my brain. Most of them are all old school carb so they haven’t really seen anyone build anything fuel injected to this extent.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 18 2021, 12:36:34 PM
You ain't got enuf till you can blow the neighbours windows out across the street with the volume on only 2 like I can. That car's gonna run a 9 on almost zilch for boost. Get yourself all the proper safety equipment. You have a family to think about. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 18 2021, 12:52:38 PM
The sound of that thing pullin' is all the music you need!

I love the sound of carbs but there ain't nothing that will make an combo work like FI
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2021, 02:05:12 PM
Brad - I've been looking at safety gear. The car is just missing a transmission blanket or shield (they don't fit this application) and some other little b/s to be "good" for 9.99 As far as me, I'm looking with a going multi-layer jacket/pants, gloves, head sock, and my helmet is probably expired.  Thinking with the stock bottom end stuff I'm really considering an engine diaper.  Once I get things sorted, an 8.50 cage might be in order, but that's down the road.

Funny thing is, that's the base tune I built with zero WOT tuning. The MAP sensor isn't configured right ignore the kpa/boost

Look at the Command AFR and AFR - not bad. I got the info I needed - it makes power, time to swap the gears so we can actually go faster than 110mph!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 18 2021, 05:30:29 PM
Lots of injector left as well. What rear gears do you plan on.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2021, 06:04:34 PM
I have 3.25s to go in it. I wanted a more street friendly gear without overdrive. 3.70s would have been money but I wanted lower cruise rpm. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 19 2021, 09:51:21 AM
Jeremy, it's a long thread. Is this a stick car or automatic? Or did you swap it to auto?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2021, 11:34:09 AM
Built th400 w/brake - PTC 9.5 15-0 spragless
That’s why the 4.56s have to go ASAP. 3000rpm cruise is 48mph lol
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 19 2021, 04:39:37 PM
Simple gear change turned into a major kick in the nuts.
31 spline axle - pretty much scrap now. The other side isn't twisted but the splines aren't happy.
35 spline axle is the fix. Not only do I need axles/bearing/spool, but my case has 3.062 bearings and the 35 spline requires you to go to a 3.250 case. Cha-Ching!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 19 2021, 06:46:59 PM
Chubby Checker built those
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 20 2021, 01:02:40 PM
I've got a couple of options that I'm debating. 
1 - buy a new case, spool, bearings, and assemble with parts I already own. 
2 - buy a new 3rd member - and sell my existing 3rd member complete. I'm really tempted to go this route. 

Option 1 is about $600 in parts, option 2 is $1300. Even if I could only get $400 for my setup, $300 more for new stuff sounds good. 

35 spline is happening regardless - the wife agrees it's stupid to put it back together with 31 splines. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 20 2021, 01:45:03 PM
I would rather go option 2.  I think longer term, it will be the cheaper route.  It's that or put less traction on it and that is not a viable option LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 20 2021, 09:16:26 PM
That's what I ended up doing. I've got the old stuff listed on ls1tech, hoping to avoid facebook/craigslist.
The new spool is 8lbs, the truetrac was 48lbs! 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 20 2021, 10:13:07 PM
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1953482-huron-speed-single-c-v3-ls1-sbe.html

Similar combo - 7psi. I've got more headflow and less cam, but I thought 7psi felt like it used to on 150 shot. 
Ricer math says 700rwhp should still be within reach if I can get a conservative 15hp-20hp a psi until 15-16psi and another 10-12hp per psi up to 20 psi. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 21 2021, 01:48:11 PM
country logic says 7 lbs of boost should add 50% displacement to the engine.  Of course, in the country, we ignore reality whenever it suits us
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 21 2021, 06:51:48 PM
LS1tech came through for me - I guess I listed it too cheap. Today I swapped the 4.56s out to a set of 4.11s and boxed it up. Shipping is stupid expensive right now - $160 to send a 100lb package ground ouch. I can buy a flight to the destination and back for that. 

Steve, your logic is similar to mine. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 24 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Degreased the 5.3 today and washed/waxed the wifes civic
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on October 25 2021, 11:43:53 AM
Looks good!  You need to buff the headlights on the civic.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 25 2021, 03:01:23 PM
I polished them like 5 years ago - it needs a new set, just isn't a priority.

The rest of my shelving should be here tomorrow - so then I can continue moving more stuff out to the barn.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 26 2021, 02:07:26 PM
Sigh - my shelving unit showed up today. Somehow someone managed to mess up the uprights, and I was missing 2 decking kits for the shelves. The shipper tried to weasel his way out of the paperwork but I filed an exception. A phone call to Zoro and they are sending me another whole unit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 26 2021, 04:19:40 PM
Seems to be all too common these days.  At least Zoro was a stand up outfit
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 26 2021, 04:36:59 PM
Ooof
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 27 2021, 01:41:34 PM
So as many of you know - I deal with chronic pain on a large scale on a daily basis. For the last 5 years, I've been on an end-of-life pain control med which is delivered via a wearable patch with a 72hour life span. Over the last year, I've been dealing with what I'd call quality issues on the patches. They don't stick or over stick to the backing, and when I have this problem I'm shit out of luck. No replacement and I get 10 per month period, so if I have an issue then I have 9 patches to use over 30 days. The problem is after 72 hours the delivery rate tanks, and I start going into opioid withdrawl. I got sick of the b/s and decided since I've been tapering for so long maybe I just ride it out as long as I can on a patch. Today I took off the patch I'd been wearing for 6 days and didn't replace it. Yeah, it's sucks, and I'm probably only a 1/4 of the way through the withdrawal cycle. The last time I tried this I made it 4 days and couldn't do it - but I was only walking 1 mile a day then vs 4 miles a day currently. With any luck maybe I'm in a place that I don't need this crap anymore.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 27 2021, 02:30:15 PM
Let's hope so!  I was thinking you were using one of the electrical "interrupt" devices, but maybe it was this pain patch that I am confusing it with.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 27 2021, 02:56:20 PM
I have a spinal cord stimulator as well.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Shimy87 on October 28 2021, 05:41:07 PM
Good luck!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 28 2021, 05:42:46 PM
 :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 29 2021, 02:23:01 PM
The shelves are up, I think I should be good for storage for a bit.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 29 2021, 03:51:59 PM
Wish I had those!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 29 2021, 08:16:10 PM
Sign up for an account at zoro.com and they'll send you a 20% off coupon. It might take a week or so, but it makes for some pretty decent savings. I've got under $900 in steel, made in the USA shelves, and they'll hold 10x the weight I'll ever put on them. I could put 3 LSx long blocks on a shelf and not even be at half capacity. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 29 2021, 11:52:29 PM
From my limited looking in recent years, that is not bad at all.  I suspect wood would cost more and not last forever like steel.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 02 2021, 11:06:41 AM
I had to kick the heat on out in the barn yesterday morning. Went from 45*F to 68*F in one 10 minute run and stayed above the 60*F stat setting for a few hours.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 02 2021, 11:09:13 AM
Gotta crank the heat up in mine shortly to watch the Leaf games in the evenings out there. That's definately a barn.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 13 2021, 05:28:32 PM
Somewhere close to 100lbs out of it thus far....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 13 2021, 05:32:36 PM
I was wrong...it's not gonna go 9's...it's gonna go 8's. :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 13 2021, 05:40:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfn_u768UoQ
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 13 2021, 05:47:59 PM
CAT scales had my GN weighing 3520 with me in it...and I took a crap load of weight out of it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 13 2021, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: Scoobum
I was wrong...it's not gonna go 9's...it's gonna go 8's. (http://www.ihadav8.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_super.gif)
not with this baby 78/75 
I've probably offset most of the turbo kit's weight. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 14 2021, 10:44:06 AM
35 pounds and E85=8.XX

If an old fuck like me can throw a leg over an R1 and lay down 3 back to back to back 130 MPH passes, you can turn an 8.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 14 2021, 11:54:59 AM
It’s the turbine Brad - at some point it’ll choke this engine with backpressure. On this engine I’d be surprised if it makes 20psi without putting the back pressure through the roof. 
I’m thinking realistically high 9s at mid 130s once it’s sorted, it’ll probably run mid 11s just to spite me!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on November 14 2021, 12:02:46 PM
back to back 130 MPH passes

I did that with my Vmax in 1990. 10.96 best of 3 tries. Gleason ran 10.2 @131 in 1985.
Obvious conclusion-he and I share no DNA.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 14 2021, 12:18:44 PM
It's been 10.6x@133 and 10.7x@132 with the six speed and some dope.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 14 2021, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: wmsonta
back to back 130 MPH passes

I did that with my Vmax in 1990. 10.96 best of 3 tries. Gleason ran 10.2 @131 in 1985.
Obvious conclusion-he and I share no DNA.
VMAX's are badass! I recall seeing some guy on Youtube make some ungodly passes on a Vmax. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 14 2021, 02:21:47 PM
My dad could only get low 11s out of his vmax, but he’s pretty easy on stuff unlike me. He’s got exhaust and a jet kit in it now but hasn’t taken it back. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on November 14 2021, 04:31:16 PM
I will link to the official Yamaha promo. You can ff to about 3.30 and 6.00. To be clear, this is a '85 Max and the legendary Jay Gleason. The '85 would wheel dyno 150-155 hp. My '88 stock pulled 129. The good Yamaha parts were still available, afterwards it went 147hp.
Houston Raceway, mph did not vary 1 mph. First pass 11.34. 2nd 11.11. Then the 10.96.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW3uOH4v5FA
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 14 2021, 04:57:03 PM
Quote from: nocooler
My dad could only get low 11s out of his vmax, but he’s pretty easy on stuff unlike me. He’s got exhaust and a jet kit in it now but hasn’t taken it back. 
I can't 60 foot this R1 to save my life. Best ET I ever did was high 11's. It's got a tall first gear and you have to slip the clutch like a whore. 10 grand in 1st and 2nd produces a wheelie. No problem hitting red line in 3rd and it goes through the traps at just under 13 grand in 4th. Acceleration is breathtaking. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 14 2021, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: wmsonta
I will link to the official Yamaha promo. You can ff to about 3.30 and 6.00. To be clear, this is a '85 Max and the legendary Jay Gleason. The '85 would wheel dyno 150-155 hp. My '88 stock pulled 129. The good Yamaha parts were still available, afterwards it went 147hp.
Houston Raceway, mph did not vary 1 mph. First pass 11.34. 2nd 11.11. Then the 10.96.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW3uOH4v5FA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW3uOH4v5FA)
Badass...absolutely badass. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: wmsonta on November 14 2021, 05:29:35 PM
Badass...absol utely badass.

I ride with a street racer (11.85 sec Dodge half ton PU). He has a CBR-1000RR. I now ride a VN750 (65hp).
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 14 2021, 05:46:24 PM
Love the pickup! Even the small CC bikes are fast these days. That CRF 250 L in my vids, depending on how accurate the speedo is goes 92 MPH with the mods I did to it. The engine is actually the 250RR crotch rocket engine in it. The full race exhaust made a huge difference. I was thinking of moving to the CRF 450 L but the engine requires constant valve train adjustment.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 15 2021, 08:58:11 AM
Jay Gleason: 9.3 at 146

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuevA8VZdHQ
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 17 2021, 05:02:03 PM
Little more progress.
I pulled out the steel inserts for the heater core lines in the water pump, the back one got tapped to 3/8" NPT, and the front 1/2" NPT. Some stainless plugs and I don't have to run the stupid U hose everyone does. The crappy thing is I completely soaked the thermal wrap on the cross-over with coolant. That's gonna smoke like a mofo once I light this bitch up.
Grommet is in the firewall. I've got the harness mocked up at the moment, and it fits pretty nicely.
The map sensor hole in the intake needs to be opened up from .400 to .450 so the new 3.5/4bar GM sensor will fit in the intake.
Playing around I found the 5.3 truck starter I have to be 4-5lbs lighter than the car 5.7 starter.
I'm tempted to move the battery to the rear while I'm at it, as the stock battery cables are in the car and are surprisingly small.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 17 2021, 05:45:29 PM
Are you planning on running a certain number with this car? If so, and I know you'll achieve it, what's the plan for the car then.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 17 2021, 08:47:42 PM
Once I’m happy with where it’s running, I’ll just enjoy it for a bit. It’s at the point that to go much faster than planned it’ll need a significant investment of time and money.
I will be starting on another project this spring, which will be 100% a budget build. Like $3500 all in Car included but not including the stuff I have laying around. I’ll let the cat out of the bag it’ll be a foxbody hatch with 5.3/th400 and some spray. Depending on how the boys like it, it may stick around or it might fund the next one. I’d like to build a car with/for each boy to race/cruise if they are interested.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 01 2021, 02:26:18 PM
Even with a fever yesterday, I made a plug n play harness for the Holley power tap connector to feed the flex/dome sensors and alternator. Flex and alternator use pull resistors and I made the harness passthrough so if I need to add anything else I can just add another metripak connector and populate it out. Today I took a few minutes to test the harness with a volt/ohm meter and everything worked as planned.  
The map has been fighting me, I was going to install the gm 3.5/4bar but by the time I made it fit, and installed it somehow I cracked the top of the SOB. Then trying to pull it out I broke the plastic tab on the intake that holds the map in.  I said screw it and ordered a 4bar transducer style MAP that'll be here before the weekend. Intake needs to be tapped for at a 1/4 npt and then I have a bushing to reduce it to the 1/8th npt. 
With any luck it'll be ready to test-fire in a week or so.
I'm wondering if I should have ran a bead of silicone around the a/c delete panel I put in, I might pull it back out and seal it, since there is way to do it once the dash is in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 01 2021, 08:10:16 PM
Jeremy I wish I had your IQ. Everything for the Buicks is plug and play, so it gave the illusion I knew what I was doing.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 11 2021, 04:32:51 PM
Thanks, Brad- my wife is always telling me she would love to have my mind for just one day. I tell her that she'd be done with it in 5 minutes. 
I like plug and play - I've pretty much made the Holley harness as plug and play as possible. I've pretty much convinced myself that the stock PCM will not be going back in the car. I could piggyback the 2 systems and pretty much make everything function as stock, but it also overcomplicate s things. I'm just going to order a Holley 6.86 pro dash and that will get me 99% of what I'd need. It's expensive, but when you figure out what it comes with - accelerometer, GPS speed, more inputs/outputs to control/monitor stuff it makes it easier to swallow. 
I'm hoping next week to get back out in the shop and start making more progress on the car. 
Oh - I ordered my center section 10/22 and still don't have the thing. They have everything, it just needs to be assembled and shipped. I still have to measure and order axles.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 11 2021, 06:25:44 PM
I have no issues with aftermarket fuel management systems for guys like you that understand them inside and out. I have a young gun Buick lad out here that can dial them in like no ones business. What I have an issue is is with vendors pushing them at morons like me that don't understand them, and that won't turn my car into a hell ride. Far to many locals have cool guy parts on their cars that they have no understanding of. Pull the hood up on my car and you'd fall asleep...but I ran circles around all of them. Like Dirty Harry said, A man's GOT to know his limitations.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 17 2021, 09:11:52 PM
The map sensor is installed, I decided to put a T fitting and tied the boost gauge off it as well. No more stupid vacuum distribution block. If I have to take this damn intake off again I'm going to lose it.
PCV system is pretty much plumbed. Catch can for the vacuum side, as soon as it hits boost the check closes, and then it should breathe through the -10 line from the valve cover to the breather can. I might need a check valve to keep the vacuum out of the breather can. It should use it as the fresh air source, and I have the fresh air vent in the valve cover going to the air filter. It should breathe pretty well.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 17 2021, 09:33:01 PM
;)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 18 2021, 09:59:17 AM
2021 has been a traumatic event for the most part, but you have really accomplished a lot when you look back on the car progress and the construction of your shop and associated improvements on the property!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 18 2021, 11:08:28 AM
Jeremy, from failing hands I pass the torch to you.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 18 2021, 07:21:12 PM
Thanks, Steve - we've been busy! 
Brad - I'll make you proud soon, or make a mess trying!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 18 2021, 07:24:41 PM
Dash is back in - I've got lots of room now. I'm still deciding how I want to mount the ECU.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 18 2021, 07:46:14 PM
Glove box for the ECU?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 18 2021, 08:18:54 PM
I thought about mounting it to the back side of the glovebox, but still up in the air - got some thinking to do
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 22 2021, 09:07:57 PM
Here is what a came up with for the computer mount - yeah I know my cuts aren't straight but it'll never be seen. It'll bolt to the backside of the a/c delete plate with the same bolts as the a/c delete plate. It's not going to be mounted level just due to how the holes line up. It'll be a nice sturdy, light mount.
And look what showed up today, my nuts are still in my shoes from picking it up. It's 20lbs lighter than the other one but doesn't feel like it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 23 2021, 01:34:11 PM
First start with the Holley terminator x
https://youtu.be/HScFjIXkLcs (https://youtu.be/HScFjIXkLcs)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 23 2021, 02:12:33 PM
What was the ambient temp you fired it up at? Now get back out there and get behind it and let us hear the exhaust tone. :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 23 2021, 03:20:43 PM
60*F in the barn - mid 20s outside. Still has E85 in it, and the wideband sensor was unplugged so needless to say it idled a little fat.  
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 23 2021, 06:15:31 PM
wasted no time starting and it sounds good to me.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 23 2021, 06:51:46 PM
Keep the vids coming!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 23 2021, 08:57:30 PM
I’ll see what I can do! Anything in particular you want to see?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 23 2021, 09:32:29 PM
Personally, I'd like to see you show everyone how to adjust all the parameters with whatever 'box' you're using. You're a wizard like Eric...but dumb things down like he does. Bob is a wizard...but he thinks everyone else is. Eric has a couple of short vids of him adjusting his ECU. Something like that would be cool, but a little more in depth.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 23 2021, 09:38:53 PM
Jeremy, I'm not sure what you have on the car as far as suspension. Maybe a few vids on your suspension setup and then how you adjust for pinion angle, IC, frame geometry etc. You're at another level for suspension and understanding from what I did. It would be helpful for guys that wanna go to a more sophisticated setup.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 28 2021, 01:09:23 PM
Just some stuff I've managed to get done. ECU mounted, 3rd member installed, torque arm/drive shaft installed. I'm waiting on u-bolts for the yoke as they forgot to ship them.
My brother-in-law didn't have a spot to keep his Harley inside, so I did my good deed for 2021/2022 and let him store it in our garage. Must be a cold day in hell for me to allow a HD in my garage!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 28 2021, 01:16:52 PM
https://youtu.be/ng8oQSFUnaw - hows this Brad?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on December 28 2021, 02:30:44 PM
Lookin' good dude! No one realizes how fukn hard it is to hold the camera and shoot vids. Man, I'd forget what I was gonna say and had to do several takes for some of them. Or I'd watch the vid and have to reshoot cuz I forgot to point something out. Tell the brother in law to take that gayass windshield off his HD.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 01 2022, 08:55:44 PM
Dash is mounted and wired.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 01 2022, 09:05:20 PM
Clean install!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 04 2022, 02:07:49 PM
Getting down to the last of the wiring. I'm waiting on wiring consumables to finish up. I might order up another pressure transducer or 2 since I have some extra inputs now. It would be a good idea to check and see where the pressure is in the transmission cooler circuit and maybe line pressure. Hopefully, I wired all this shit right and don't burn the car down :rofl:
Taking a couple of days away from it will help me decide how I want to finish up wiring.
 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 04 2022, 02:13:26 PM
Jeremy, I don't know know how you handle all that wiring. I can barely put batteries in a flash light.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2022, 06:11:46 PM
Still cleaning things up. I left everything long enough that I could pull it out of the glovebox and service it. I'm really liking the Deutsch connectors.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 06 2022, 06:41:00 PM
Jeremy, will you have any issues with law enforcement with the mods. I had run ins with the Ministry of Transport up here. It wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2022, 06:48:21 PM
Nah none of that bs going on here - for now. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 06 2022, 06:51:25 PM
 :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 06 2022, 06:52:30 PM
I was not familiar with those.  Those look very nice and I could have used them on the mopar.  Been neater than trailer connectors anyway 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 06 2022, 09:22:09 PM
So far they seem pretty slick. I'm using a cheap crimper and connector kit from amazon. The only thing I don't like is I have to grab another set of crimpers to crimp the jacket, but that's not a big deal. They come apart easily so I think they'll work nicely if I need to add/move/remove stuff around in the future. They are definitely bulkier than a weather/metri pack - but the ease of servicing is worth it. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 07 2022, 12:18:25 AM
the weatherpak is a pain in the neck.

These connectors appear to be cheap in cost but the crimpers run them up if using a limited volume.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 07 2022, 01:51:23 AM
The crimper I bought is around $30 and then the $17 metripack crimpers for the jacket. 
Now I’m not going to crimp solid contacts but the stamped ones work fine for my junk.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on January 07 2022, 04:35:49 PM
Deutsch connectors are pretty much my life. The closed contacts are very very close to MIL spec.I pretty much eliminated failures by switching my client to them. Less fond of the open contacts, but understand the price attraction.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on January 07 2022, 04:41:59 PM
What's on your ECM Jeremy, AMP superseal?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 07 2022, 06:52:31 PM
Yes super seal on the computer and dash. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 10 2022, 04:10:59 PM
Spent a few days installing some Christmas gifts. It was nice that nothing leaked when I pressurized it. I had to church it up with a -6AN whip line from the compressor to the wall.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 10 2022, 04:13:20 PM
Jeremy, I had the electrician run my compressor on a separate circuit. I assume you did the same.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 10 2022, 05:56:20 PM
Yeah I’m good on the electrical - some pages back should be some pictures of the box. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 10 2022, 07:34:15 PM
Jeremy what's the length of the recoil air line. Getting tired of dragging my compressor out in the driveway for some jobs. Brand name? How do you like it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 10 2022, 08:03:38 PM
It’s 50ft - it’s flexzilla brand, haven’t had a chance to use it yet.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 10 2022, 08:06:04 PM
 :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 10 2022, 08:20:15 PM
With my growing collection of Milwaukee gear the compressor is pretty much used for blowing up tires and running the cut off/die grinder.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 11 2022, 05:13:16 PM
I've spent more time on this harness than I care to admit. I think I have it the way I want it after the 4th revision.
Basically, this harness plugs into the power tap connector on the Holley harness. It's got ignition 12v, chassis ground, sensor 5v, and sensor ground. I made a pass-through connector for the main power tap, so I can plugin with another metripack connector if I need to add any more sensors in the future. This harness is for the dome pressure sensor in the wastegate, and flex fuel sensor. 4 wires go into the car, Flex signal, Dome pressure, ignition 12v, and the chassis ground. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 11 2022, 07:09:20 PM
Fuck. You lost me at the the third sentence.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 19 2022, 12:56:41 PM
I helped my dad work on his 2005 Chevy Silverado 2500 today. Replaced the drivers side mirror, new plugs/wires, swapped the maf and threw a 10 minute tune on it. 
The truck has around 165k on it and the plugs had never been changed. 5 out of the 8 were finger tight and the other 3 weren’t much tighter. They were the correct oe plugs and the way they looked I’d say they were original. Needless to say his truck runs a tad better now.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 19 2022, 01:03:41 PM
I bet it does!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 19 2022, 02:59:03 PM
Jeremy I had a 2004 4 door 2500 with the 6.6 box and the 6 litre. Man that thing cruised like a Cadillac and had all the creature comforts. I miss it. That's a long time to have those plugs in. When I dealt mine in on the lifted truck it had 330,000 kilometres on it. Body was mint and and the engine ran like a top. Body was Rust Checked yearly. The shit works. Not sure if you have those there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 19 2022, 03:27:00 PM
Brad his is starting to get rough, in a couple of years it'll be a rust bucket. But it wasn't the cleanest truck when he bought it. 
His runs are fine, and now that he finally fixed the front end it drives decent. He drove 40 miles a day for 10 years with the front end so worn out it was more like driving a wore out farm tractor. The passenger side only has one exhaust bolt broken off, the driver side has 5 out the six broken lol. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on January 20 2022, 09:12:02 AM
Harness looks fine to me . If it was a street car I'd prefer a closed sheath or tighter weave, I don't subscribe to ALL the HP Academy hype, DR-25 is way too expensive and I don't need my cables perfectly round :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 20 2022, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: nocooler
Brad his is starting to get rough, in a couple of years it'll be a rust bucket. But it wasn't the cleanest truck when he bought it. 
His runs are fine, and now that he finally fixed the front end it drives decent. He drove 40 miles a day for 10 years with the front end so worn out it was more like driving a wore out farm tractor. The passenger side only has one exhaust bolt broken off, the driver side has 5 out the six broken lol. 
My son in law worked at a garage for a short period of time. We brought it in after hours and swapped out all the exhaust bolts.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 25 2022, 02:19:57 PM
These showed up today.
Size matters, old 12.5mm wheel studs vs new 5/8" studs
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 25 2022, 03:01:55 PM
 :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 25 2022, 11:04:40 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 27 2022, 02:07:34 PM
I was able to test fit the axles today - Everything looks good.
Yesterday I attempted to remove the driver's wheel bearing race, and it fought and won at least for now. My Harbor Freight slide hammer is apparently a finger smasher 9000. I got my pointer finger and palm on my right hand pretty well and split them open. Not once but twice. You think I'd learn but I wanted that damn race out. They either fit extremely tight in these aftermarket housings or they put it in with loctite. I'm tempted to grab a nitrous bottle and freeze that sob out - but I'm not going to push my luck at the moment. I started to cut it but I really don't want to get into the register so I stopped. I'm going to go rent the axle puller slide hammer from Advance or Autozoo - it has the proper attachment to grab the race, rather than my backwoods engineered attachment on my POS slide hammer. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 28 2022, 07:15:39 PM
Went and rented the axle puller kit, took less time to pull out the bearing races than it took to go get the tool.
I got the axles and bearings pressed together and the axles installed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on January 28 2022, 10:43:41 PM
The right tool makes all the difference.  Until you get old anyway. Then it is easier to maintain the position and keep doing whatever ain't working than it is to get up and get another tool
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on January 29 2022, 02:27:13 PM
truth
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on January 29 2022, 05:32:06 PM
The car is finally off the lift - it's been on it since October! The rear end is done! I need to test a few more circuits tested and then the interior can go back in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on January 29 2022, 07:19:19 PM
I'm always a sucker for that color.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 03 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Not the cleanest install - but I think it turned out decent.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 03 2022, 05:27:16 PM
Clean install Jeremy. You do nice work.  :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 04 2022, 03:10:28 PM
Thanks Brad!
Just a few little things and then I’m waiting on good weather to tune this pos
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 04 2022, 03:34:50 PM
Last cold day here is tomorrow. Getting above the freezing mark starting Sunday. Deadman cable on the snow blower auger snapped. Getting it into the shop Sunday.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 08 2022, 06:32:23 PM
https://youtu.be/8VWgkzWSBqY - I was messing with the dash today.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 08 2022, 07:36:03 PM
 :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 12 2022, 07:26:47 PM
I was able to drill out the holes in the wheels to fit the 5/8 studs. The hardest part was finding the correct 5/8-18 lug with the 60* taper and open end. These ended up being for a trailer or some shit, but they work.
The plan is new Nitto drag radials on the stock wheels, and some new performance all seasons for the front.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 16 2022, 02:34:44 PM
Tested out a few sensors today - the flex fuel sensor was fighting me but I figured it out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on February 16 2022, 04:57:16 PM
 :cool; :rock:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 16 2022, 07:13:32 PM
steady progress.  Won't be long until you are at the track!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 17 2022, 03:12:20 PM
Today I installed a pressure transducer in the transmission cooler line. I figured the price of a transducer is cheaper than wiping the thrust bearing out of the engine.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 17 2022, 03:24:09 PM
no kidding!  I would not have thought of that!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on February 17 2022, 03:48:03 PM
Fingers crossed it's within what is considered normal and not excessive. I really don't want to have to spend more money putting a regulator on the circuit. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on February 18 2022, 09:38:52 AM
In hobbies in general, and cars specifically, the pit always seems to continue to deepen
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 04 2022, 08:47:04 PM
Saw this meme on facecrooks.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 05 2022, 08:56:03 AM
Nailed it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 07 2022, 07:24:34 PM
I think I made some boys happy today. It's an 07 Manco Critter with a 6.5hp Tecumseh on it. It'll be a good project for them to help me with, as it needs a little attention.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 07 2022, 08:03:42 PM
LOL, it would make me happy!  I have been looking for a Kart with coil overs on each wheel and big enough for me to ride as well.  but so far every thing that I found that would fit the bill and me is 180 miles away or it is priced way out of my range and still that far, or more, away.

Next you will be putting a Predator 212 on it, rack and pinion steering and so on!  I'm happy for those boys!  They look really happy :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 07 2022, 09:35:59 PM
I've already been looking at Predator 212 stuff. I think the tired Tecumseh will be plenty for them to start out with. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 08 2022, 05:33:51 PM
It's amazing what power can be pulled out of the various Predators and the carbs are usually pretty good on them. Tillotson is even better from a quality standpoint, I think, but they cost more.

But, as you say, you want something safe, slow and controllable.  No need having someone head on into a tree or something even worse!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 08 2022, 09:14:43 PM
The Tillotson TCT looks pretty sweet. https://www.gopowersports.com/tillotson-tct-mechanical-fuel-injection-tf-8a-6c/
Right now the engine doesn't have an air filter or the housing for one and appears to have been run that way for some time. $25 for a piece of plastic, a filter, and a nut make the Predator look even better. The swap would require a new clutch since the Predator has a 3/4" shaft vs the Tecumseh 5/8". So in my mind, if it needs a clutch it gets a Predator 212 :)


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 08 2022, 09:57:13 PM
Better yet, a torque converter 👍 just put a throttle limiter on for the boys
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 09 2022, 10:19:32 AM
Jeremy, Honda made an Odysee back in the day. I rented one for a couple of hours at an outdoor facility. I think it was automatic and had a 350cc engine. Was lots of fun but need better suspension. I raced one of these CR250R's at an outdoor fair grounds in the winter months when I was in my early 20's. Fast and as dangerous as fuck.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 09 2022, 10:45:14 AM
I remember all those. My Dad was a service manager at the local Honda dealer in the 80s. Sometimes I'd go to work with him on Saturdays and I'd get to sit on all the new machines and occasionally he'd have to "test ride" something and he'd take me along.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 09 2022, 01:27:33 PM
I saw an Odyssey on FB Marketplace not so long ago.

I am getting a Taylor Bros Talon unless something falls thru.  I think the engine still runs okay, and I have a 212 Predator that I have never opened the box on.  I wanted springs on all four corners because it is so rough here.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 09 2022, 01:40:56 PM
Several towns here in Ontario allow ATV's on the streets as long as the person driving is licensed, insured and has a plate on it. If it ever happened in my town I'd be looking for a Honda Odysee...if I could find one.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 09 2022, 01:47:21 PM
After I test it out to make sure it's safe and to see how fast it goes, my ass probably won't ride in it. It'll be way too bumpy for me, my body just won't take it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 09 2022, 05:00:02 PM
Roger that....those no suspension ones need a smooth surface for sure...but even the ones with spring corners are rough off road as the videos show.  Be sure the brakes work well.  The one I am buying has hydraulic brakes but they need to be finished and bled....  It needs lot of things  !

When I was looking, I found I could buy a VW powered sand rail for less than some wanted for their go karts.  Hard to believe what some will pay for something and how quickly they become disillusioned
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 10 2022, 10:58:08 AM
I got stupid years ago and put a 5HP Briggs in a mini bike. It was fast enough I ran out of room on my street to get it up to full speed. Depending on the sprocket size and condition of the centrifugal clutch, that thing will fly with a 6.5 in it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 11 2022, 07:14:56 PM
You know the part where I said "unless something falls thru"?  My nephew fiddle farted around and did not go pay the guy in a timely manner?  Someone else showed up with cash and took it away.  I'm on the look again.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 13 2022, 04:35:12 PM
Made some progress on the cart today.
Found that the frame has a couple of cracked welds - so I'll need to take care of those before we go further.
The crankshaft thread was damaged and there wasn't anything holding the clutch on, it was just floating. So I re-tapped the crankshaft and stuck a 5/16-18 bolt in it. The lash on the valves was around 0.025 so I reset them to .008/.010 ish. The chain is soaking in ATF, I still need to look it over real good.
The boys got all the bird poop off the seat - they were bummed that they couldn't go rip it around today.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 13 2022, 07:28:36 PM
Jeremy, you can use you chain wax when you get it cleaned up. It won't fly off like oil and make a mess. Use it on my bikes...works real nice. How's the centrifugal clutch?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 13 2022, 08:13:39 PM
I got the frame welded and everything back together. Everything is good except the brakes. 28mph with me and my 10-year-old in it, it rips pretty good.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 14 2022, 02:03:49 AM
Yes it does! Bet he was on top of the world! Setting the valves can really be noticed at times.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 14 2022, 02:19:30 PM
I took it apart to look at the brake and the wheel bearings fell apart. Thankfully they are cheap.
The front kingpin bolts are just 1/2-20 standard bolts. So the spindle is snug at the top and loose at the bottom where it's located on the bolt threads rather than the shank like the top. The bolt threads are beats, and to prevent it again, I ordered some AN8 bolts in the correct length to correct the problem.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 14 2022, 03:08:27 PM
check all of the bushings in the suspension as well, if you did not.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 14 2022, 04:44:37 PM
I looked it over pretty good. No bushings as it’s a ridged frame, steering is all in decent shape. The next thing will be cleaning the carb. It idles well and runs wot well but everything in between is crap.
The boys were pretty disappointed when I told them no rides today. Hopefully this weekend.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 16 2022, 08:36:38 PM
Steve next time just call me a dumb ass you were talking about the wheel bushings I assume. Probably not a bad idea to replace them.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 16 2022, 09:07:07 PM
I was not sure where, if any, it might have.  Depends on the type of front end it might have.  But yeah, if they need to be replaced, the wheel will have some movement in it when you attempt to flex it up, down, or sideways.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 17 2022, 06:45:09 PM
67F here today. I was able to open the barn doors and enjoy the fresh air.
I got all the wheel bearings replaced. Cleaned the carb, installed new fuel lines with a filter and shutoff. And lastly replaced the brake band. It went from zero drag to a considerable amount of drag so I’m thinking it’ll stop now.
New kingpins won’t be here until Monday. I haven’t told the boys yet - I may just have to put it back together or it’ll be a really long weekend lol
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 17 2022, 09:47:15 PM
That will make it them happy for sure 👍
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 20 2022, 11:56:24 AM
Jeremy, it'd be about 10 bucks American with the exchange rate.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-street-cruisers-choppers/mississauga-peel-region/go-kart/1609566976?undefined
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 20 2022, 07:52:01 PM
Brad those shifter carts are badass. After a lap around the neighborhood on that thing, I probably wouldn't be able to move.

I spent all day messing with the car. It kicked my ass, but I finally figured out my issues. I had the flex-fuel setup wrong, rather than a fuel flow multiplier - I had set a fuel flow offset. So in turn the Holley was dumping an additional 35lb/hr of fuel into the engine at idle on top of the fuel table when the tune has about 10lb/hr of fuel in the table. Whoops! It was much happier when I corrected that, but I diluted the oil to the point that it clattered a little when the idle surged. I've got the oil drained, I'll get it filled after the boys go to bed, and play with it more tomorrow.
I've got a full tank of e85 - testing 68% at the moment.
The rear end is silent - which surprised me, I guess give it some time...lol
55mph at 2500rpm - and boost is instant as soon as you roll into it. I need to get the gears broken in before I get too crazy.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2022, 04:18:15 PM
https://youtu.be/dZqePWGYzxU - sigh
I'm thinking it lost a lifter.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 21 2022, 05:24:47 PM
well, hell!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2022, 07:40:39 PM
yeah - what do you do? I've owned it for 15 years and have beat it like a red-headed stepchild the whole time.

I got bored after dinner. Almost ready to start breaking the head bolts loose - I can hear my nuts hitting the floor already.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 21 2022, 09:53:02 PM
Just head bolts now....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 21 2022, 10:10:07 PM
Got the same luck I got...all bad.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 22 2022, 04:09:53 PM
Well, I was going to agree with you Brad - but check this out.
The first picture is a shot of my cheater bar.
Second picture - I couldn't have gotten any luckier. The axle for the roller on the lifter decided it wanted to be free. If it would have ejected it would have been game over. I need to look over everything real close but it looks like the cam and lifter bores are good too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 22 2022, 04:51:13 PM
After all those years, I guess this is not to be unsuspected and I think we clearly know who is in the lucky category.  Go buy a few PowerBall tickets and order a new set of lifters!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on March 22 2022, 05:08:05 PM
Fingers crossed it's within what is considered normal and not excessive. I really don't want to have to spend more money putting a regulator on the circuit.
pressure reg not voltage reg?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 22 2022, 05:57:17 PM
Yes, pressure regulator for the transmission cooling system - I referred to it as a circuit. Excessive pressure will shove the crank forward and take out the thrust bearing in the engine.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 22 2022, 07:44:34 PM
Lifters (Morel 7717), lifter guide trays, head gaskets (LS9), head bolts, replacement valve springs (BTR Platinum), and some other odds and ends are on the way. Oh and some 245/50/16 - Nitto 555 RII Drag Radials.
The plan is to swap the cam to the turbo grind I have and reassemble.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 22 2022, 08:11:26 PM
It all works out for the better. Even the time of the year is right.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 24 2022, 08:57:28 PM
And the parts are here already! Just waiting on a balanced puller that should be here tomorrow. Then I can swap the cam and reassemble.
A new carb showed up for the go kart today and after installing it, it was very apparent how much someone had messed with the governor. I played with it a bit and ended up at 20mph which should be plenty fast. When it’s warmer out I’ll mess with it more, I don’t like the lack of throttle response - I know some of it’s the governor. Right now you floor it and wait, and then the revs come up. But if you wack the throttle on the carb or move the governor arm she’s pretty snappy. I might end up putting a return spring on the governor arm and the run the throttle cable to the arm directly instead of through a bunch of linkages and a handful of springs. Then I could just put a throttle stop on the pedal too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 24 2022, 09:05:15 PM
Might consider a torque converter style set up on if one can be had that fits the engine. That should give it a lot of more bottom end.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 30 2022, 07:03:27 PM
Moving along
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 30 2022, 07:06:53 PM
and it's almost back together! Waiting on a set of longer pushrods. Pre-load came up short .040 and it needs to be .060 ish.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 30 2022, 07:13:50 PM
Oh, and I got the last set of reasonably priced 7.425 pushrods that Summit had in stock.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 31 2022, 05:02:08 PM
Pricing is bound to kick us in the mouth given the current financial situation.  I suspect that any good priced item is probably a good investment even if it is not needed.  The resale value has got to go up.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 31 2022, 08:05:06 PM
Steve - I don’t disagree. I was at the farm supply store and they were telling me the chicks/turkeys were selling like they haven’t seen before.

Today I was going to change the trans fluid and install a new filter/screen. I decided while I let the atf drain I’d double check the converter spacing. It was apparent I had an issue once the converter was free. The flexplate moved very freely front to back. So I pulled the transmission - and damn I love this lift!
The flexplate is cracked all the way around the hub between all the bolt hole and then started cracking outward. New one will be here Monday. I’ll double check spacing when it goes back together, it was setup on tight side but it shouldn’t have cracked the flexplate.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on March 31 2022, 10:22:55 PM
I had a 77 Nova that was stripped out with just the bench seat in it...light as fuck. I dumped a 350 SB in it. The son of a whore would crack flex plates between the big holes on it. First time it happened it sounded like a rod knock. Had no money for a good aftermarket flex plate so I just kept throwing in plates from the wreckers. I got good enuf at it I could slide the trans back just far enuf to get a bar up in to get the crank bolts loosened off and out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 31 2022, 10:36:02 PM
I think I mentioned the problem that I was having with the ptc converter lacking clearance to the flexplate on my son's wagon.  Given that the torqueflite that we installed did not have a mounting boss for the column shifter linkage and it had been well abused in the past, we pulled it out and installed one that came from a guy up in Indiana.  We still had too little clearance.  I talked to ptc and sent the converter back and they shaved 0.040" off the ears...  It came back and it was still closer than I wanted and the converter seemed to be suddenly tight on the input shaft of the transmission.  I talked to them again and they made  a new unit and sent it to me during the Christmas holiday week.  Talk about service!

In the meantime, I got another flexplate just to cover the bases and discovered it has 0.100" less offset than the hd unit I was using.  Between that and the new converter, I suddenly had 0.125" clearance which I was aiming for.  I am not sure how much problem the first converter had and how much was with the flexplate but that part is finally all good.  When he was here during spring break, we did not get as much done as we wanted to but he has three kids and a wife that always wants to go eat when she is awake.  Makes it difficult to get the usual 15 hours in LOL

But my new Daytona Super Jack worked like a charm and I was able to set the car off the blocks to jack stands and then all the way to the floor.  I was able to control the drop down to an almost imperceptible rate and it was a piece of cake.

Still have a bunch of wiring to do, and I could knock it out pretty fast if motivated but I want him to do it so he will know how it all works...or is supposed to work.

I have had the Challenger parked outside and I decided I should crank it up and let it run a bit...nothing happened when I turned the key to start.  After some troubleshootin g, I decided the starter relay was not working but after hitting it a few times, it came to life and fired right up.  It needs a good cleaning under the hood as rust is accumulated from the moisture not getting burned off things.

I ordered two relays, one for the Challenger and one for his car.  I guess they are not so reliable after 50 years?

I probably should have pulled the 526 out of the Challenger and put it in his wagon but I am tired of pulling stuff, go figure.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on March 31 2022, 10:38:30 PM
it's done!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on March 31 2022, 11:52:42 PM
Reminds me of a Buick flexplate with the ring of cracks.  You work a lot faster than me
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 01 2022, 09:36:52 AM
Steve - It's got roughly 0.160 in shims so I've got room to move the converter toward the flexplate. I'm thinking it had about a 0.250 air gap but I'll need to double-check. In my research, I realized I might have missed a critical step - the LS rear engine cover bolts may interfere with the SBC SFI bellhousing.
I'm glad that jack worked for you that had to be nerve-racking lowering that wagon down! Having the wife and kids around definitely slows down progress. Tell him you'll do the wiring but you can't promise the 4 ways won't turn on when he trying to run the wipers!
When you have limited time that your body will cooperate and let you work, you figure out how to get stuff done efficiently.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 01 2022, 10:47:43 AM
Yeah, I was worried about getting that thing down without punching a jackstand thru the floor pan or screwing up the suspension.  It was a piece of cake and came down a lot easier than it went up.

I have lost about 25 lbs and my body is protesting less than it did when I was 210. I get up off the floor a lot easier LOL  Keeping my mind focused on the current project rather than 15 other projects is my biggest problem.

The old Mopars have a problem with the flexplate to crankshaft bolts hitting the converter if you don't use the right type of bolt heads.  When you start mixing and matching parts from various things.

It would have been cheaper to have bought a new stroker small block and stuck it in the wagon than do a swap for a big block and buy all the stuff it takes to do the swap.  Used stuff is the same price or higher than new stuff.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on April 01 2022, 10:54:43 AM
With the diabetes I can't work on something for more than 2 hours full bore cuz my blood sugar burns down and I'm done. Something that took me a day now takes several days.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 01 2022, 11:48:41 AM
It was the rear cover bolts. The bell housing has some nice witness marks in it so I know which ones to change lol.
The torque converter is still really tight in the pump so hopefully it’s good.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 01 2022, 12:09:06 PM
Steve I think the big block is perfect for the wagon. It’ll be worth it when it’s done, but we all know they are never really done.
Brad over the last decade I’ve had to learn how to do many things differently. I get about 2 hours generally, after that I know I need to stop or it’ll be rough next couple days. The shitty thing is I can push through the pain if I’m busy, and when I stop I’m fucked.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 01 2022, 12:46:43 PM
I agree, Jeremy.  It needs a new suspension to match the weight and improve the handling and the old stuff was more than tired to begin with.  Rear springs have no arch left in them and the torsion bars need to be changed for something larger.

My son marches to his own drummer and he is planning on a Dr. Gas Boom Tube exhaust on it among other things and when we installed the CVF pulleys, we added an AC compressor so he can install a modern AC on the car.  I wish they made a custom instrument panel for it but they have rally gauges set up for other models but not the 72 and ups. Not yet anyway.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 02 2022, 08:38:44 PM
Boom tubes on a wagon might resonate a little
Flexplate showed up today - so I was able to reinstall the transmission
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 02 2022, 09:32:21 PM
You are most likely correct!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 02 2022, 09:33:11 PM
And that was a quick turn around on the flex plate and install
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 03 2022, 12:10:57 PM
It helps when Amazon comes through. It'll be running early next week, just waiting on the pushrods then I can start plugging stuff back in, add oil and touch it off.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 03 2022, 12:47:02 PM
Don't know if it will run better, but it will surely run longer!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 03 2022, 02:01:25 PM
The turbo cam should make a bunch more power under the curve, but we will see.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 05 2022, 07:12:49 PM
https://youtu.be/CCU3AL8By7g

Turbo cam doesn't chop nearly as much, I miss the lope!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 05 2022, 07:20:38 PM
But you will fool the heck out of any one that dares to try you!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 10 2022, 08:41:08 PM
I put 25 miles on the car today. I'm very impressed with the Holley EFI. I spent 30 minutes dialing in the cold start/idle - with HPT it was never that easy. Closed-loop fueling and the fuel learn function work amazing. The cam made a huge difference, it is way happier and makes an assload of midrange torque.
We also put about 10 miles on the go-kart today - I'm gonna be feeling it tomorrow. I was surprised my wife even took it for a ride and had a blast.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 10 2022, 10:31:06 PM
That's great news on be the Firebird.  I guess the fueling is a lot of smoother with the cam.  I made a 330 mile roundtrip on yesterday and hauled the go kart home. I got the fluids changed and greased the a arms and such. Tomorrow I will try to figure out the wiring and see if I have anything. N
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 12 2022, 03:27:34 PM
75 miles down. Other than a trans line leak and blowing the throttle body coupler off it runs pretty damn good. I checked both catch cans and they were empty, which I wasn't expecting - but I'll take it!
Tuning this thing has been too easy. I stopped data logging and started letting it learn after seeing the learn and closed-loop fueling work. It's basically short/long term fuel trims with wideband resolution and it corrects fast enough in my experience to roll into it. After the drive, move the learn table to the base fuel table and do some hand blending/smoothing. I'm not brave enough to just send it to the limiter but after a couple of drives, it's coming around quick. I've got it mapped to 8psi and about 4500rpm - so I'm sneaking up on it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 12 2022, 04:10:52 PM
wow!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 12 2022, 05:17:18 PM
These new systems are really good!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 12 2022, 06:40:17 PM
I didn’t like holleys fan logic. It was on/off via temp only. Key on above temp the fan is on. I disabled the included fan control and then manually configured output that controls the fan. It’s still controlled via temp but also has a rpm condition. It’ll only run when the engine is 500rpm (running) but shuts off at 1500rpm (cruising). 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 20 2022, 08:34:02 PM
I don’t think they like this go kart at all.
https://youtu.be/uwisck5FG4k
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 20 2022, 09:34:08 PM
Nope, they hate it!  Time to up their GoPro game!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 25 2022, 11:37:29 AM
The boys and I put about 20 miles on the go-kart Saturday afternoon, the last couple of runs she was really starting to labor, pop, sputter, and just wasn't happy. The plug looked like shit and it was dripping oil out of the carb but the valve cover vent was dry. Upon further inspection, I noticed the intake valve lash had opened up to more than 0.020. Easy fix, I lashed the valves and while I had things apart I lubed the clutch bushing.
Sunday it rained off and on but cleared up around noon. I jumped in the kart, with my oldest and we set off around the neighborhood to make sure everything was fine before I turned them loose. We made it about a 1/4 mile away down the hill, and it backfired and stalled. It wouldn't start and I could tell things weren't right pulling it over. So I start pushing it home uphill and it starts pouring - and of course, it's done raining when I get back home.
I tore the recoil starter and side cover off to find we had sheared the timing key and the balancer worked itself loose lol. A quick trip to the farm store and a $0.79 woodruff key and we were back up and running on the first pull. Too bad, it rained the rest of the day - but with any luck, we can get a few more tanks of fuel run through it before I have to work on it again.
Next time the predators go onsale I think I'll need to snag one.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 25 2022, 11:49:24 AM
Pushing it a 1/4 mile is putting it in the "working on the LS" category, but the beauty of gokarts is usually simplicity once you understand how they work.

I am thinking for my next project after go karts and such is going to be building a VW Baja even tho there are no sand dunes within 200 miles
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 25 2022, 03:57:51 PM
Yeah, good thing it rolls nicely with the new bearings! This thing is stupid simple, it's refreshing to know that 4 bolts and I can pull the engine and tear it down on the bench. The kids think I'm a magician when they see it come apart, get repaired and it runs when I'm done.

I got tires put on the bird today. The new nittos at least leave black marks, the bfgs were so beat they didn't even lay marks anymore
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 25 2022, 04:17:01 PM
Hopefully the experience will rub off on them and carry us forward to a new generation of car guys.  Video gaming hurt a lot but some of them have seen the light and added cars to their fun.

You got your money's worth out of that set of tires.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 25 2022, 10:15:08 PM
My car has officially broken me, everything feels like a slug. I got in the CRV this afternoon and was like wtf is taking so long to get up to speed, not realizing I had it matted lol. I took my brother for a ride and he confirmed it's pretty lively for 7psi.
I pick up this POS today. 04 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 z71 170K 5.3/4L60/3.73 posi weight reduction via Michigan climate. It drives decent and runs pretty well, the interior is in good shape although the guy did smoke. Complete bottom of the barrel $2500 truck and it came with a half tank of fuel, a couple of pop cans, and some change. It's just a junker to haul crap around.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 25 2022, 10:29:27 PM
I believe you are gonna grow up to be much worse than me.  Junkers are sometimes by far the best buy.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 26 2022, 12:02:11 AM
Now that I have my own shit wagon not much to stop me from bringing more shit home!
My youngest has already claimed the truck, he wants it when he turns 16. I’m thinking this doesn’t have 9 years left it in, it’ll be a pile of dust by then.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 26 2022, 12:30:38 AM
It will be good practice for him to help you keep it going...  I had a 150 that went 325k on the original engine and tranny.  It finally cracked a head and I gave it to a friend here.  He gave it to one of his workers who bought an engine with 150k on it.  It ran good and he gave it to his son who cleaned it up and it was still running the last time I saw it a year ago.

Of course, rust is not a major problem here.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on April 26 2022, 02:59:04 PM
I went to the SoS to get the title transferred/plates this afternoon. Some dumbass mofo told a State employee he was going to shoot her if he had to go get his birth certificate. Thankfully he wasn't armed. He was disabled/wheelchair-bound but I thought it was going to get real for a second.
Of course, they went into lock down and I had to hang around and give a statement so my 20-minute trip took 2 hours.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 26 2022, 04:39:25 PM
amazing how many idiots are running the streets these days
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 03 2022, 06:01:48 PM
After a couple of loads of dirt, I decided to try out Harbor Freights 2000lb cargo unloader - https://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-capacity-truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html
The topper had to come off and I was worried it was all that was holding the bedsides up, but surprisingly they don't flop in the wind. The unloader was $50 well spent. 2 minutes to unload a bed full of dirt - it is way easier than trying to rake/shovel it back out.
I got bored today and installed some fbody ls1 cooling fans in place of the stock clutch fan, controlled by the factory PCM of course. All stuff I had laying around.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 04 2022, 12:54:02 AM
That is a really handy piece of equipment!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 04 2022, 08:37:38 AM
Jeremy, are they using the liquid brine on the roads down there like here? I swear it's eating vehicles away faster than the road salt. Cool item for the truck!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 04 2022, 08:53:20 AM
Brad, I'm not 100% sure what they use - but it does a number on metal.


Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 04 2022, 09:13:54 AM
They changed to liquid maybe ten years ago up here. We've got Krown Rust Control and Rust Check up here. Sprayed annually for about 100 bucks. The shit works.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 04 2022, 01:04:09 PM
Brad, I'm not 100% sure what they use - but it does a number on metal.

They have to keep Michigan at work building those cars...  or is it Tennessee where they build cars? LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 05 2022, 10:37:10 AM
Carolina squat going on!  :rofl:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 05 2022, 03:20:03 PM
This showed up today. Weldpro MIG155GSV. I tested out some flux-core just to make sure it sticks metal together. 1st attempt was a fail, too much heat, and the batteries were dead in my helmet. Not only did I burn a hole in the plate I was welding but I got little flash exposure.
Once I got the helmet working and dialed the heat/speed in on it welded really nicely. I can't wait to get a bottle of gas and some mig wire and see what I can mess up.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 05 2022, 05:45:59 PM
 :cheers: :cheers: nice :atbeer:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 16 2022, 05:22:03 PM
2 step testing - https://youtu.be/zc5AdvuPFLQ
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on May 17 2022, 11:43:52 AM
I sent the sound bite to NASA. They said it's saying 9's.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 17 2022, 03:35:44 PM
That’s on gate without any magic in the tune up at all. I need to start adding duty cycle to the wastegate there’s any easy 150-200hp in just adding boost. I’m just being a Nancy, I know it’s gonna be a handful.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 22 2022, 06:24:21 PM
Picked this up today
2017 American Black Widow
Full suspension, rack-n-pinion steering, hydraulic brakes (well after I fix them), torque converter, live axle, new tires.
It has a 135cc LTC CCMX  - https://lctusa.com/product/cmxx-136/ my understanding is it's more of a Mitsu clone than a Honda clone. It's underpowered I think it's rated at 4hp. It'll run it's rated 24mph but it just feels dead, pretty sure the belt is burnt. I'm gonna put a new belt on it, fix the brakes and see how it does. It definitely isn't as fun as the other kart but it's a lot safer to turn the kids loose in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 22 2022, 08:32:04 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 25 2022, 04:48:21 PM
This might be my EVAP leak.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 25 2022, 05:58:24 PM
You reckon? Lol
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 27 2022, 04:44:18 PM
Took an hour and a half to get the retaining ring off. It had rusted to the top of the fuel pump module. Fuck rust.
So we raced the go karts last night. I stuck the boys in the newer kart with the 4hp/torque converter/suspension vs me in the older 5hp/centri clutch/rigid frame. As I thought the kart with the torque converter will pull away until about 20mph then the older cart with the centri clutch will come flying around it. It seems that 4hp isn't enough to even get to the governor with the torque converter, it just chugs along. Downhill it'll cruise 30mph+ but uphill it'll struggle to get to 20mph, flat ground it's quick to 20, and then slowly will creep to 24ish.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 27 2022, 09:31:56 PM
There are different versions of torque converters, but they are really nice when set up right.  But, they cannot produce more hp on the top no matter what
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 31 2022, 01:41:08 PM
A new belt and lubing the slides on the torque converter with dry lube made a huge difference. We raced the go karts again yesterday and the cart with the centrifugal clutch can’t hang anymore
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 31 2022, 01:50:02 PM
Some one is going to want more power!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 31 2022, 08:46:48 PM
I tried taking the clutch apart today but all the snap ring pliers I have are junk. I appears you can cut a few links out of the spring to tighten it back up and raise the engagement point some. Right now it’s just off idle, so any little bit would help.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 01 2022, 07:47:07 PM
I reworked a mini bike and I added a hd clutch from someone because I figured 200 lb riders were rough on it
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 02 2022, 11:08:34 AM
We might have a hotrod.
9.2 seconds from the time I let go of the trans brake until I lifted, the GPS speed is showing 128mph. 13psi, nittos on the street.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 02 2022, 07:40:33 PM
Hang some fuzzy dice on the mirror and I will certify it to be the genuine article.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 02 2022, 08:01:28 PM
The plan is to try and hit the track Saturday night.
I had a small leak on the turbo oil drain line that required me to remove the turbo. The exhaust vband on the turbo fell apart, so I’m hoping Amazon prime will come through.
I need some more runs to play with boost control, while boost held decently - I’m not sure it’s working as intended. I might just swap the springs in the wastegate so I get 12-14psi without having to worry about boost control at the track this time out, I’ve got plenty of other things to keep track of.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 03 2022, 01:04:20 AM
Hope it gets there in time
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 04 2022, 08:11:21 PM
Parts showed up in time and that’s about all that went right today. For whatever reason I wasn’t supposed to go to the track today and that’s okay. I’ve got a trailer that needs completely rewired. I started at the plug and keep finding more more issues the further it dig. I gave up on that in time to drive the car over but I had to put it back into street mode and then it needed fuel. I topped off the tank and was greeted by the sound of e85 dripping on the ground. Looks like I didn’t get the fuel pump module sealed as good as I thought, it leaked before and I messed with it and thought it was fixed but I guess not.
So I’ve got some work to do - I will say I stuck another spring in the wastegate and it’s pretty rowdy.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 07 2022, 04:45:53 PM
Fixed one issue on the car, the fuel pressure regulator was only mounted to one intake bolt, and the -8an coupler fitting holding it to the fuel rail. Vibration loosened the coupling fitting - so I added an additional mount point to the bracket. It now bolts to the front of the cylinder head and an intake bolt. Now you can shake the car by the fuel pressure regulator.

I thought I had the trailer wiring tackled. Plugged it in and tested nothing. Pulled a light socket and I wasn't getting voltage, turns out these are led and need the polarity changed. I tested it and it appears to work. I need to reverse the polarity on the other side and I should be good.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 07 2022, 08:26:37 PM
I have heard that some leds were polarity sensitive but all that I have used seemed to work both ways
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 14 2022, 11:52:49 AM
I’m late uploading this one. Letting the 7 year old drive - he was more interested in hamming it up for the camera
https://youtu.be/jylbNifMNqc
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 14 2022, 12:37:45 PM
Well, he is 7!  I am still a ham some 73 years later
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 14 2022, 01:22:15 PM
After reviewing some data and talking with Hutch @ Hutch Transmissions I decided it was best to install a regulator in the transmission cooler feed line. I'm seeing 110-120psi of cooler charge pressure, and Hutch said is borderline critical. He sets up the valves to regulate around 65-70psi but has some adjustability if I need it. What's another $100 at this point!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 14 2022, 04:14:04 PM
That is a great attitude for a car guy
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 20 2022, 05:01:54 PM
Regulator installed. It tee's into the transmission cooler line out and then dumps to the pan.
All of the fuel leaks are fixed and I was able to get the fuel level gauge working. The arm was hitting on one of the pump screens.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 01 2022, 08:09:19 PM
I've spent all day trying to get this th400 to quit puking all over my floor. The o-ring on the transbrake solenoid had dried up and would leak after you shut the car off. Then the $45 th400 pan gasket -Moroso perma dry or whatever they call it, split on the inside and would slowly leak. It went back together with cork/paper/fiber and rtv. So far I've done a handful of transbrake/2step tests and I don't have a puddle under it. Yeah, this converter will go 5200rpm if you forget to enable the 2step! 
I'm waiting on 2 Deutsch DTP connectors for my fuel pumps. I'm done with the metripack 280 connector on it. Currently, there is no easy way to change which pump is primary/secondary so I'm fixing it.
I also stuck a 160 thermostat in it as it runs hotter than I'd like in 90F+ and now it'll idle around 190-195 with one fan and the other with pull it sub 180F. I'd be lucky to hold 210-220F before with both fans.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 01 2022, 08:25:53 PM
Progress is not always easy.  Patience is required but patience usually turns into progress after a while.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 02 2022, 10:25:22 PM
Deutsch DTP connectors are installed and this is where the trans pan gasket split.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 09 2022, 11:07:48 PM
Brad was right on the money. Took 3 passes, backed it up on the fourth and I brought it home in one piece.
14psi-14degrees of timing. Single digit street cars for the win.
I’ll upload slips soon.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 09 2022, 11:53:22 PM
Feels amazing when everything just goes as planned.
The only thing I did was leave harder on each pass. 1st pass was just 0psi 3000, 2nd was 1psi 3000rpm, 3rd was 10psi 4000rpm, 4th was the same as the 3rd with the front shocks tighter for less of a wheelie.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2022, 12:08:52 AM
First pass - https://youtu.be/UbpPXWuLMB8
2nd - https://youtu.be/E1xdAlJmYys
3rd - https://youtu.be/S92eBekbUjo
4th - https://youtu.be/KWXneiSUz4c
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: TWIN86GNS on July 10 2022, 07:49:38 AM
Congratulation s!!!!  4 great passes and drove it home is a success any day.  It will be interesting to see how much quicker you get that car running.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 10 2022, 08:45:53 AM
9's...just like I said. Tree 'em...and you ain't gonna lose many races. If you're gonna mess with these guys on T and T nights...sand bag 'em...or you won't get any races. You don't give yourself enuf credit...you're one of the best.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 10 2022, 08:56:28 AM
It's pretty amazing to do that on street tires without a lot of boost on top end.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 10 2022, 10:19:45 AM
Thanks guys!
We ended up trailering it over yesterday. It will get driven over click off some 9s and drive home that's a pretty attainable goal at this point.
Obviously, I wasn't even trying on the tree and I'm very rusty. They have a 10.0 index race coming up, that could be interesting.
It was on 5 year old MT ET drag 28x10.5 stiff wall slicks, a 275 radial would pick up a couple mph
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 11 2022, 09:20:02 AM
Jeremy, check to see what's allowed for index racing at your track. Nothing was allowed for Sportsman Class, but Pro and Super Pro got into delay boxes etc. Keeping the Buick on a dial with temp/humidity changes was enuf of a challenge, let alone having to deal with cars with that stuff. I went to the FM to keep the car more consistent, but I kept notes on temp humidity for every run for every race weekend. I had a pretty good idea what the car would do from run to run in regard to temp/humidity change. The NA cars weren't affected near as much.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 11 2022, 09:40:41 AM
Brad the guy that wins it normally goes 10.001 with a .010 light or something - boxes are allowed in the index class.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 11 2022, 04:37:04 PM
So my brother bought a short bus 06 envoy Denali  that needed the active fuel management/displacement on demand deleted, as it’s failing. Basically cam/lifters/valley cover we will probably do a timing chain and an oil pump. I’m finally ready to start unbolting the heads it took all day to remove the exhaust manifold bolts! Propane torch made quick work of the ones I could reach but there were 3 bolts I spent all afternoon on. All 3 rounded the heads off and a e20 socket saved the day. I still had to use a 5ft cheater bar on one!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 11 2022, 06:19:15 PM
You got some luck!  Even with my feebility, I would have broken that sucker off as soon as I picked up a cheater bar!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 11 2022, 09:01:36 PM
I either had to break them loose or break them off. The ways it’s packaged is a nightmare. It’s got one broken bolt on on the drivers side head and 2 on the passenger side that were broke before I touched it, so I’ll have to extract those. Tomorrow hopefully I can get the heads,cam, and lifters pulled out, and he can start ordering replacement parts.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 12 2022, 10:28:18 AM
Packaging nightmare.
Look how rounded that bolt head is and that e20 reverse torx had no issues, even with a 5ft cheater!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 12 2022, 01:05:55 PM
I would have bet against it working...mayb e I need a better attitude
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 12 2022, 08:41:04 PM
I asked my brother to rent the proper balancer puller yet he shows up with a harbor freight set. He destroyed one of the pullers in the set and bent another one. Took over an hour of messing with it, had he rented the proper one it would have been a 10 minute job.
Heads are off and mechanically it looks okay. It appears that 3 out of 4 displacement on demand solenoids failed, they test out of spec
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 16 2022, 02:04:16 PM
My uncle called and really wants me to try the 10.0 index class, he is going to run the 8.5 class. Wants to go next Saturday, test and scope out the competition, then try the event in September when it comes back around.
I configured and tested the “bump” function, now I can light the top bulb build boost and bump into the 2nd.
Looks like this th400 is leaking again. I must be over tightening the pan, I think this time around I’ll just use a bead of the right stuff and be done with it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 16 2022, 06:44:12 PM
You're sure it's the pan and not something else
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 16 2022, 07:54:42 PM
Not 100% - the front of the pan was covered and there was about 4oz of fluid in the catch can. Im learning a hard lesson, my brothers envoy is on my lift - so I had to jack my car up….
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on July 17 2022, 07:56:20 AM
Not 100% - the front of the pan was covered and there was about 4oz of fluid in the catch can. Im learning a hard lesson, my brothers envoy is on my lift - so I had to jack my car up….
My uncle called and really wants me to try the 10.0 index class, he is going to run the 8.5 class. Wants to go next Saturday, test and scope out the competition, then try the event in September when it comes back around.
I configured and tested the “bump” function, now I can light the top bulb build boost and bump into the 2nd.
Looks like this th400 is leaking again. I must be over tightening the pan, I think this time around I’ll just use a bead of the right stuff and be done with it.

Jeremy, I had more fun hanging out with the other racers than I had racing. You'll make lifetime friends.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 17 2022, 10:26:16 AM
So I came out a decent-sized puddle on the cardboard. I cleaned it all up, let the car warm up, and put it on the trans brake/2step a few times, and nothing. I'm wondering if it's just sat too long and needs a front pump seal, or it was overfilled....
That's one thing about the t-56 it never leaked!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 17 2022, 11:05:46 AM
and 30 minutes later it's leaking.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 17 2022, 11:15:30 AM
Mother trucker - it's the front pump seal. There is a ledge above the pan rail that fills up and then splashes over. I put my pick in there and found a nice puddle up there.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on July 18 2022, 01:04:26 AM
Well, the bright side is that  you can stop messing with the pan.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on July 18 2022, 10:39:21 AM
After running 9s I don't mind wading through some shit. That sweet taste of victory makes the mundane not suck as bad. Had it not performed so well my outlook probably wouldn't be the same.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 05 2022, 11:40:36 AM
Figures I'd get this Envoy Denali XL back together and it has an exhaust leak. I wanted to fix it but my brother just wants to drive it at this point and see how it does. Pretty sure the manifold on the passenger side probably needs surfaced. The cam we stuck in it was real close to the ls6/ls2 cam so I had him copy a TBSS fuel/timing maps and it runs really good.

My wife and I went to a concert last Friday - and it was amazing. Auburn Michigan - population sub-2000 people, and there were 10000 people in the park for the concert. The first picture is behind us, and then a shot to show where we were located. I was really apprehensive about being in a crowd, as I really don't need drunk assholes running into me - but everyone was respectful and cool.
It was Chase Matthew, Struggle Jennings, and Jelly Roll. They had to pull the plug on Jelly at midnight, an hour past curfew.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 05 2022, 01:24:25 PM
Beautiful night for it!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Forzfed on August 05 2022, 02:21:19 PM
Noice!  I haven't been to an outdoor concert in a long time.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 07 2022, 10:55:52 AM
I helped a good friend yesterday work on his wife’s 2015 equinox. I changed both cam vvt solenoids, front crank seal, and replaced the serpentine belt. Took nearly an hour, and $150 worth of parts - dealer estimate was $1000!!!!!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 07 2022, 11:32:48 AM
The dealer always wins in the end.

The dealer would probably have to pay for a technician to come in from the district office to do the work...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 07 2022, 03:09:08 PM
Trans is out and it looks like it was one of the pump/bell housing bolts leaking. Looks like they used a thread locker not a sealant like the directions show. I really don’t want to pull the pump but I know this mother f’er will leak if I dont
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 13 2022, 10:06:04 PM
It's back together. It needs a few more quarts of trans fluid and I'm hoping it's done leaking.
I was surprised to see that the transmission did have some really nice-looking pieces of hardware inside when I pulled the pump out.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 14 2022, 01:47:27 PM
...and it's back out
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 14 2022, 02:42:14 PM
Well, damn
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2022, 10:28:13 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think I'm the first person to mess with this leak. One of the lower pump holes needs the threads repaired, so I've got to pull the pump and see what my options are. I don't know if there is enough meat to properly Helicoil it. I've heard some use aviation sealer others use Devcon aluminum epoxy as it's strong enough to be drilled/tapped, and I've seen others weld it up and re-tap.
I've got to get it apart and get a game plan.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 15 2022, 11:17:51 AM
from what I read, most epoxy fixes will not hold any torque beyond lightly snug.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2022, 11:38:30 AM
It's got some nice parts in it :O
Yeah, I'm not sure about using epoxy either Steve. The devcon aluminum is supposed to be a whole other animal, but it's $100 a pound. I'm going to look at helicoil and timesert options.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 15 2022, 12:33:10 PM
We had a bunch of worn out holes in the 440 heads (header holes).  We used Timeserts because I had heard they were much better than other options.  They took a lot of work compared to helicoils and we used blue loctite on them because some go into the water jackets.

Recently, I saw one of the youtube channels testing them vs other threaded fasteners and they did not do as well as the old helicoil when it came to strength.  I guarantee the helicoils are faster, easier, and a lot cheaper.

I think I would use some loctite and install them to stay LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZItuPnU7lU

Cheap is the way to go as long as it is an insert

and my favorite channel because I cannot figure out how he talks so fast without missing a beat.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknMrFOGMOQ
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 15 2022, 02:51:08 PM
I went with a helicoil - I needed up repairing both bottom holes
I'm gonna let the thread locker setup and put it back together tomorrow
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 15 2022, 06:27:16 PM
Should be better than new and the price is not too bad
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 17 2022, 08:48:02 PM
Whiskey tango foxtrot….
Got it all buttoned up and nothing - no fluid flow. I ran it through all the gears, had the dipstick out of the tube and after I shut it down it volcano’d fluid out of the dipstick tube and made a mess.
Who knows what I messed up - sigh
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 17 2022, 09:08:59 PM
does it have a breather that may have become stuck closed?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 17 2022, 09:17:45 PM
I did not think of that Steve.
It’s got a puke tank setup and I did tighten the fitting in the case. I wonder if the way it’s drilled and tapped it intersects the hole and running it in tighter may have blocked it?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 17 2022, 10:09:39 PM
Worth looking into if there is no other idea
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 18 2022, 01:54:23 PM
After removing the vent fitting it builds some pressure but it’s way down, won’t engage and sounds like and air compressor when you shut it down.
I guess I get to tear it back apart. I’m guessing the gasket for the pump moved or I really messed something up.
What are the chances I knocked the filter loose messing with it? I guess dropping the pan is easier than the transmission.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 18 2022, 02:17:31 PM
I would guess not much chance on the filter, but, might as well start with the easy and hope!  I have seen stranger, less likely...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 18 2022, 04:22:06 PM
I'm not thinking it's likely, I find it odd that the damn thing is still leaking - so the paper gaskets probably moved on me when I put the pump in.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 18 2022, 07:18:48 PM
https://shop.ukrtrans.biz/wp-content/uploads/catalogs/TH400.pdf
This saved me $40, I’m thinking I’m gonna need it
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 18 2022, 07:20:22 PM
Any sign of warpage. Wondering if those holes were stripped by someone trying to stop it from leaking
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 19 2022, 02:35:43 PM
Paper gasket was out of place, on the pump inlet....yeah that'll do it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 19 2022, 02:58:02 PM
That's good news. Hopefully no more on leaks!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2022, 01:53:57 PM
Well, it's back in and works, but it still fucking leaks.
From what I could see everything is flat.
Where it's leaking it could only come from the pump, fluid sits on top of the pan rail directly under the pump - I'm not seeing how it could come from anyone else as it'd have to flow up hill.
It doesn't leak when it's running only when it sits - I need a break from this damn thing.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2022, 04:25:26 PM
Found a possible issue. Some moron put the longer pan bolts in the front and they go above the pan rail and may cause some interference with the bell housing. Since the bolts are stainless and the bell housing is aluminum its hard to see any witness marks on the bolts. I'm hoping that was the issue and it'll stop seeping now....
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 23 2022, 04:48:03 PM
That is probably a good possibility.  I have seen things like that cause a lot of problems because they are not obvious.  Let's hope so!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2022, 05:19:41 PM
It’s been dry for an hour - that gives me hope. I put some fresh cardboard under it hopefully it’s dry tomorrow
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 23 2022, 05:44:18 PM
That probably did it.  At least you did not give up and someone else pointed it out to you.  Look on the bright side, you found a problem waiting to bite you in those bolt holes with bum threads and fixed them. :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 23 2022, 08:47:27 PM
Yup - so I shot myself in the foot when I had issues with the pan sealing.
Story of my life. Fingers crossed that it’s still dry in the morning.
Next on the list will be getting boost control sorted out on the Holley
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 28 2022, 09:38:08 AM
Went to the track last night and had some issues.
1st pass: I turned it up and it ended up hitting boost cut as soon as I hit 2nd gear, I lifted and shifted into 3rd and ran it out a 75% throttle to keep boost under the cut. It went 10.3@134
2nd pass: I loaded the wrong tune - 10.8@124 wastegate with a huge timing retard.
3rd pass: reloaded the correct tune - 10.8@116 I lost part of the exhaust and aborted
4th pass: it blew the coupler off the turbo and lost the clamp.

I've got some issues to get sorted and it'll be back out. That's what I get for trying to turn it up - but I've got a pile of data to look through. It's gonna need more injector for sure.

The one good thing I found out is the car weighs 3640 with me in it, so 3490ish
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 28 2022, 05:57:31 PM
Lighter than I would have guessed.  At least you are not pulling the transmission so it sounds like you are going in the right direction :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 30 2022, 01:37:05 PM
After getting kicked in the nuts at the track - I spent a couple of days looking at the data and thinking.
While I thought I tickled the boost cut, I actually ran out of injector, and to make it worse somehow my flex fuel signal is going from reading alcohol % to "high error". Holley does flex fuel on the fly, it's a fuel flow multiplier so when the signal goes high error it thinks it's on pump gas. Fuel flow was going from 900lbs/hr to 450lbs/hr - yup that's my stumble @ WOT lol. How this engine isn't a pile of fairy dust is beyond me.
So I need to track it down and see if it's a vibration issue, wiring, interference (it's close to the coils), or the sensor itself.
Upgrading injectors is on the back burner for now.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 30 2022, 02:08:34 PM
Life is not boring in your shop!

Here I am pissed off because the Holley on the 440 is not getting an accelerator pump shot LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 30 2022, 06:38:25 PM
There are a few growing pains to work through if it was easy everyone would be doing it.
One of my friends was at the track with his 86 mustang gt. It has "sealed" coyote or it was until he put an intake and valve springs on it. It's got a ram slipper clutch/geforce 101a 4 speed. The damn thing runs 10.1x@131mph. It'll go 9s with good air. I'm guessing it's in the 2600-2800lb range - 475rwhp@7300 redline 8000 sounds insane
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 30 2022, 06:57:42 PM
https://youtu.be/k42D1bBjoBk - stock coyote mustang
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on August 30 2022, 07:01:12 PM
https://youtu.be/1FcZcnb7zAs - in car 10.8@128 wastegate and huge timing retard
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 30 2022, 08:13:24 PM
I have heard about fast fords all my life!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 01 2022, 08:35:22 AM
Jeremy, the LS engines will take a shit kicking. Look no further than our buddy at Sloppy Mechanics.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 01 2022, 10:31:47 AM
Jeremy, from experience this is what I'll tell you. Go overkill on injectors and your transmission. I should have had the tramsmission built for 10 flat the first time...and instead of going from stock injectors to 50's, 60 then 80's, I shoulda jumped to 80's right off the hop.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 01 2022, 11:51:43 AM
Brad - 80s were as big as I could get when I bought them, next set will be some Bosch 210s, I'm gonna wait for Black Friday. The fuel system is set other than that should be able to fuel 1000rwhp to the tires on E85 with the lines/pumps. The transmission is a stout unit and should be good now that it's not leaking.
 
Steve - just costs cubic money. Coyote is awesome, but it's expensive, massive, and I'm not a fan of 4ft timing chains. Not to mention it's got a slipper clutch in it so he's always under the thing playing with it. 
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 01 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Hey, then I guess you would not like the 427 "Sock" engine with the 6 ft chain  :cheers:  I have enuf problems with the single accessory drive belts of today  :icon_lol:

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: reality on September 02 2022, 11:20:44 AM
quote]   going from stock injectors to 50's, 60 then 80's

What change did that make?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 02 2022, 01:47:45 PM
Steve - If it comes in a thunderbolt sign me up!

Pretty sure Brad was saying to buy once cry once - rather than incremental upgrades.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 02 2022, 02:07:12 PM
I missed a chance to buy a Thunderbolt with a fresh 427 back around 2000.  I was trying to convince one of my Ford friends to buy it but he thought 3k was too much.  I should have jumped all over that one.  It was in several pieces and needed some assembly but it was in really good condition. It was a real race car.

those days are long gone.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on September 03 2022, 09:31:04 AM
quote]   going from stock injectors to 50's, 60 then 80's

What change did that make?

IDC
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 09 2022, 11:50:07 AM
99% sure it's the ethanol content sensor itself that is bad. Even at idle the signal occasionally bounces, and if I tap on the sensor body (aka MAF tap)  I can get it to go from high error/low error and back to reading alcohol content.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 14 2022, 02:56:56 PM
Well, flex fuel is fixed - I had 2 damaged pins on the sensor side. I must have mangled them when I was testing the harness.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 14 2022, 06:36:29 PM
You have been making progress lately after finally getting the tranny leak resolved!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on September 20 2022, 06:52:15 PM
Fixed up the exhaust yesterday. The last 18” or so was just held on by a band clamp. I changed it up to a vband so I don’t have to worry about it getting ejected onto the track again. I was able to straighten up the trim ring and I put some thin sheet metal on the other side of the bumper to give the rivets something to grab instead of just plastic.
This weldpro mig welds super nice, and I’m still using flux lol. I’ve got a bottle of gas and wire, I just figured I’d use up the flux it came with first and haven’t been disappointed.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 02 2022, 07:15:23 PM
Went to the track today 5 passes. New PB 9.90@136.9 1.366 60ft nearly 110 in the 1/8th! I put 1.5* of timing in it so 15* and left the boost at 14. Last pass I added another degree of timing and bumped the 2 step to 4400 from 4000 - didn’t work out just spun.
No video my dad isn’t qualified to operate a camera lol
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 03 2022, 09:49:14 AM
Looks like all the hassle you went thru to get there is worth it.  Looks like 9.8's are in your future with the right conditions.  Shame winter is coming soon.

Better Go Pro that thing and give your Dad some pom poms LOL
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 03 2022, 11:10:26 AM
I need to look at the fuel table and do some calculations - if I drop the alcohol content to 55-60% I can get some overhead back on the injectors, and maybe put some boost to it.
We have one more Test n tune this next Saturday. I'm up in the air, yesterday was way too busy - I hate waiting in the staging lanes for 45 minutes before a run. The car was definitely not cool by the time I got to the burnout box.
My dads good friend had his early 70s mustang out. 557 high compression, big dollar 30k type engine, ran 9.7x@138. Just to rub it in I told him my turbo was only $400.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 03 2022, 03:06:22 PM
Sounds like you are pretty close to honking your horn at the Mustang for the passing lane.  Send him some links to LS swaps in Mustangs. :D
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2022, 11:14:14 AM
Here is the boost plot from the 9.90 pass - yellow/green line is boost, white line is rpm, red is speed
leave on 10psi, 12-12.5psi in 1st, 13psi in 2nd, and 13.5psi creeping to 14psi at the very end. It does spike a little on the shift but it's safe to say there is a whole lot left in it.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2022, 01:03:52 PM
Can you adjust the suspension to increase the weight transfer on the leave?
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2022, 01:19:41 PM
I can but it's already yanking the fronts 3-6" and carrying them out a little bit. I can start playing with a small timing retard on hit, it might be enough for it to plant the tire on a harder launch.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2022, 02:03:18 PM
Yep...scratch that one...sounds like the only game in town is to dampen the boost curve initially
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 04 2022, 03:47:13 PM
Yeah - I think I’m good on the 60ft just need to start rolling some boost in this thing!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 04 2022, 05:12:56 PM
Sounds like your timing idea would make balance out the power vs boost increase down low and let it ramp up some more further up the rpm curve...
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 07 2022, 05:54:43 PM
I smell 8's.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2022, 11:26:36 AM
Just running the numbers I'd need almost 200 more horsepower at the wheels to go 8s.
I'm thinking 18-20psi is all this turbo will do on this engine, so let's just say I have 5 psi left for easy math.
5 psi - 20hp/psi = 100hp
5 psi - 25hp/psi = 125hp
I think it's gonna end up in the 9.3-9.5 range 143-145mph with this turbo full tilt. Provided I don't run into other issues first. At some point, I'll probably be flowing more air than the cheap intercooler can flow too.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 08 2022, 11:43:04 AM
Jeremy, what can the internals handle. Haven't watched Matts channel in awhile.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 08 2022, 12:01:05 PM
Well let’s just aay the L33 5.3 I have sitting in the corner for it will hold enough to go 8s - everyone tells me I’m on borrowed time with the LS1. Cylinder liners are supposed to be thin and it’s got the early rods in it.
The smart thing would be to swap engines when I upgrade injectors
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 09 2022, 12:15:51 PM
Thin cylinders. I went into the water jackets on 3 different cylinders in that .030 over block and had to toss it the 3rd time cuz it cracked right up to the deck.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2022, 10:12:26 AM
I may have a package in transit from Riga, Latvia - containing 8 Bosch 210lb/hr injectors  :cheers:
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on October 18 2022, 10:22:40 AM
does that depend upon the presence of suicide drones? :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on October 18 2022, 11:11:04 AM
Don't open it. You might have a Nordstream on your hands.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on October 18 2022, 11:53:20 AM
From what I'm seeing the market is flooded with Chinese knock-offs - and those make some really nice bombs out of good engines!
Hopefully, the only booms will be happening in the cylinder after they are installed!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on November 04 2022, 02:35:41 PM
These showed up today - finally. They've been 20 miles from here for 10 days waiting for customs to clear them.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Scoobum on November 06 2022, 07:14:16 AM
 :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :) :) :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 16 2022, 03:03:06 PM
I picked up a clean set of used "706" casting heads today. I'm starting to acquire parts to put the aluminum 5.3 together as I'd rather not hurt this LS1 and shove it in something else N/A. These are the smaller chamber LS heads and have a slightly smaller intake valve, but from what I've seen on a small bore (4.8/5.3) these are up 20-30hp/tq across the board over other style heads. It'll end up being 10.4/10.5:1 compression :)
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 16 2022, 11:43:32 PM
These LS engines seem to have a lot of versions of things that can be interchanged without going very far away from GM.  One of my favorite shows is Engine Masters and they had a show one night testing the various oil pumps and showing what power they could require.  I was shocked how many hp the big ones required and how much oil pressure they could maintain.

I had thought that the modern stuff would not need such serious stuff due to the ability to run tight clearances on light weight oils, but, I guess when one is pushing a 1000 hp, or more, that it takes a lot of effort to keep it from "rubbing".  Wish I could start over with the LS stuff.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 17 2022, 03:47:53 PM
The modular nature of the Gen3/4 LS engine pretty much makes them adult legos!
While I'm much older and wiser, I'm a believer - I've had my firebird for nearly 15 years and have pounded on it relentlessly - It just refuses to die.

Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on December 28 2022, 02:37:18 PM
Santa brought me this
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on December 28 2022, 09:40:01 PM
Nice!  I got a couple of bars of lava soap which still works like a charm!  Also a Milwaukee 3/8s impact on which works really well, also.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: daveismissing on December 29 2022, 06:32:15 PM
I have heard that some leds were polarity sensitive but all that I have used seemed to work both ways
Some brands put a diode bridge in front of the LEDs ,many don't.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on May 19 2023, 03:06:15 PM
I decided to put the firebird on the lift and pull the trans. Took about 1 hour to pull. As expected the front pump bushing is trashed and took the seal out. I've got parts and a bushing driver set on the way!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 20 2023, 09:34:38 AM
You need an android helper that pulls stuff for you and puts it back-all without the arguing feature.  Your life would be somewhat easier!

I like the Firebird just because they were discontinued and they were always the option for those that did not want to follow the crowd.  The WS6 was my favorite at the end.
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: nocooler on June 04 2023, 05:16:55 PM
Well, I apparently was supposed to learn some life lessons working on this POS. I put it back together last weekend and went for a ride - it puked a trail of trans fluid when I pulled back in the driveway.
Upon inspection, I found a few issues: the vent had clogged, the bushing I replaced in the pump moved forward and took out the front seal, and the pump gasket wasn't installed 100% it twisted a tad.
So I ordered another pump gasket/bushing kit and it came in last night at 5 pm. At 9 pm I took it for a ride and while not without issues it's not leaking any transmission fluid for the first time I can remember! Of course, I made a pull on the test drive, and when I shifted into high - it just banged the limiter. Without engine braking, it felt like I broke something.  But when I went to downshift at the next stop, I realized I was just a moron and forgot to put the cotter pin in the shift linkage. Sure as shit the cotter pin was right where I left it on the bench.
Today I fixed the driver's headlight - as it wasn't popping up. Somehow the linkage got bound up on the limiters but after fighting to get it apart, I was able to figure it out and get it all sorted out.
I'm waiting on a patch from Holley as my dash isn't displaying the WBo2 data but other than that, the upgrade from v2 to v3 went flawless and I have some new features to test out.
I think it's ready for an oil change, fuel filter, injectors, and some more boost!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 04 2023, 10:27:42 PM
Glad to see you are human at least in part of the time!
Title: Re: nocooler's firechicken thread
Post by: motorhead on June 11 2023, 08:11:02 PM
Mistakes are often made in this hobby. Glad to hear its rocking and rolling.
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