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Help with some Power Logger files
« on: November 29 2015, 02:36:35 PM »
Need some help with some Powerlogger files. (I have this posted on the big board as well)
I have been having an issue with my AFR going rich, and then really lean when I get into boost.
It seemed to have started a short while after I upgraded the software in my Tpro to 5.27. Initially the upgrade went well, and was in the process of fine tuning, and then this lean glitch started happening.
I did a factory reset of the unit, and have been trying some different settings, but the problem remains.
 I am running in SD mode, and I have made sure the ECM is in open loop.
FWIW If you are wondering about the boost spike, I'm running the BSTC and have it set pretty high normally, but with the weather getting quite cold here, I am having a problem with traction, so I am breaking the tires loose pretty easily.
Here are my current settings, and some PL runs.Let me know if you see any settings that should be changed.

Thanks,
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CFG Settings
Ver 5.27 Nov 28/15[/t][/t] 
Selection[/t] Current settings 
1) Vehicle Select[/t] 0 
2) # of Cyl.'s[/t] 6 
3) Displacement[/t] 3.8 
4) Airfl Mode[/t] Speed Density 
5) MAP Source[/t] GM 3 Bar 
6) Load Srce (Dens Srce)[/t] Use Map 
7) Baro Mode[/t] Sealevel 
8) F-Out Mode[/t] GN Extreme Pro 
9) V-Out1 Mode[/t] Spark control 
10) V-Out2 Mode[/t] Corrct Fact 
11) AFR Source[/t] Innovate LC1 
12) F-In Mode[/t] None 
13) Aux 1 Mode[/t] +V to trig AUX 
14) FlowErr Mode[/t] SD/MAF 
System Setup[/t]
1) Main Scale[/t] 0.00 
2) V-Out1 Set[/t] 2.460 
3) V-Out2 Set[/t] 4.000 
4) Afterstart[/t] 5.0 
5) Lo Load Pt[/t] 32.5 
6) Mid Load Pt[/t] 100.10 
7) Hi Load Pt[/t] 143.0 
8) F Out Max[/t] 0.00 
9) Tm Base[/t] 0.0 
10) Tm Correct[/t] 1.23 
11) IAT Airflow[/t] 15.0 
12) FE Smooth[/t] 30.0 
13) Use VE Table #[/t] 1.0 
14) SpkBase[/t] 15.0 
AFR Tracking[/t]
 
Min TPS[/t] 2.480 
Min RPM[/t] 3200 
Min Load[/t] 166.4 
Lean Lim%[/t] 10.0 
Rich Lim%[/t] 25.0 
Gain[/t] 5.2 
AFR 2000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 3000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 4000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 5000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 6000R[/t] 11.5 
AFR 7000R[/t] 11.5 
AFR 8000R[/t] 11.5 
Aux%[/t] 0.0 
AF TrDelay[/t] 0.0 
Air Tmp[/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 
Trig[/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 
AF-Hi[/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 
Tune Mid Load[/t]
 
@ 400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 1200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 1600[/t] +0.0% 
@ 2200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 2800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 3400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 4000[/t] +0.0% 
@ 4600[/t] +0.0% 
@ 5200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 5800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 6400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 7000[/t] +0.0% 
@ 7600[/t] +0.0% 
Tune Low Load[/t]
 
@ 400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 1200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 1600[/t] +0.0% 
@ 2200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 2800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 3400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 4000[/t] +0.0% 
@ 4600[/t] +0.0% 
@ 5200[/t] +0.0% 
@ 5800[/t] +0.0% 
@ 6400[/t] +0.0% 
@ 7000[/t] +0.0% 
@ 7600[/t] +0.0% 
Tune Response[/t]
 
TPS Enrich[/t] 0.3 
TPS Decay[/t] 0.60 
TB Size[/t] 7 
TPS MAP Max[/t] 85.8 
MAP Enrich[/t] 0.10 
Bst Enrich[/t] 0.10 
MAP TPS Min[/t] 0.60 
MAP RPM Min[/t] 2560 
MAF Lim TPS[/t] 0.000 
MAF Limit[/t] 0.0 
MAF /Krpm[/t] 0.0 
Lim MinRPM[/t] 0 
Lim Time [/t] 0.0 
Off Idle Enrichment[/t] 0.0 
Spark WOT[/t]
 
All set to[/t] 23.0 
Spark Aux[/t]
 
All set to[/t] 23.0 
PT Tracking[/t]
 
Idle TPS[/t] 0.48 
Idle RPM[/t] 992 
Idle A/F[/t] 14.7 
Cruise TPS[/t] 1.20 
Cruise RPM[/t] 2560 
Cruise Load[/t] 91.0 
Cruise A/F[/t] 14.7 
Lean Load[/t] 84.5 
Lean Delay[/t] 10.0 
Lean A/F[/t] 15.5 
Gain[/t] 4.0 
Enabl. Dly [/t] 74 
ETPS RPM [/t] 4800 
ETPS Load [/t] 166.4 
ETPS Gain[/t] 0.0   
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #1 on: November 29 2015, 02:37:35 PM »
Sorry, Settings are not posting properly.
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #2 on: November 29 2015, 02:39:46 PM »
 
AFR Tracking[/t][/t]
 
Min TPS[/t] 2.480 
Min RPM[/t] 3200 
Min Load[/t] 166.4 
Lean Lim%[/t] 10.0 
Rich Lim%[/t] 25.0 
Gain[/t] 5.2 
AFR 2000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 3000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 4000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 5000R[/t] 11.8 
AFR 6000R[/t] 11.5 
AFR 7000R[/t] 11.5 
AFR 8000R[/t] 11.5 
Aux%[/t] 0.0 
AF TrDelay[/t] 0.0   
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #3 on: November 29 2015, 02:41:18 PM »
 
Air Tmp[/t][/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 
Trig[/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 
AF-Hi[/t]
 
All set to 0.0[/t]
 

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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #4 on: November 29 2015, 02:44:52 PM »
Ok, how do I delete some of this?
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #5 on: November 29 2015, 03:43:21 PM »
Paul...check your battery voltage. I see it dropping as low as 12.2. It you're running out of fuel...mite that be causing your AF spikes? Is that boost spike of 25.6 I'm seeing real?
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #6 on: November 29 2015, 05:23:49 PM »
I'd recommend an in car FP gauge...or log it on PL. If all you have is an underhood gauge on the fuel rail...then you're asking for trouble. Making sure the charging system is up to snuff...and monitoring fuel pressure...is absolutely critical.
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #7 on: November 29 2015, 05:25:29 PM »
Big board? I thought we were the big board.
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #8 on: November 29 2015, 09:21:59 PM »
Quote from: Pyro6 on November 29 2015, 05:25:29 PM
Big board? I thought we were the big board.

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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #9 on: November 30 2015, 08:28:27 AM »
Quote from: Scoobum on November 29 2015, 05:23:49 PM
I'd recommend an in car FP gauge...or log it on PL. If all you have is an underhood gauge on the fuel rail...then you're asking for trouble. Making sure the charging system is up to snuff...and monitoring fuel pressure...is absolutely critical.

Yeah, I will be ordering a transducer shortly so I can log FP. Strange about the voltage. It's an Impala alternator built with HD parts. I'll have to check wiring as well.
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #10 on: November 30 2015, 08:37:43 AM »
Quote from: Scoobum on November 29 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Paul...check your battery voltage. I see it dropping as low as 12.2. It you're running out of fuel...mite that be causing your AF spikes? Is that boost spike of 25.6 I'm seeing real?
Yup noticed that. Will do. Yeah. I normally run close to 24 lbs, so with the cold weather and traction issues, I get spikes like that. Also, low load in low gears. I also run the BSTC so I can turn it down on the fly.
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #11 on: November 30 2015, 08:38:21 AM »
Quote from: Pyro6 on November 29 2015, 05:25:29 PM
Big board? I thought we were the big board.

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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #12 on: November 30 2015, 08:38:58 AM »
Quote from: daveismissing on November 29 2015, 09:21:59 PM
Quote from: Pyro6 on November 29 2015, 05:25:29 PM
Big board? I thought we were the big board.

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Re: Help with some Power Logger files
« Reply #13 on: November 30 2015, 09:12:52 AM »
Been through the voltage issues.  I added a few grounds.  One at the alternator bracket to the body and one at the fuel tank.  Not sure about your  vehicle though...  I also checked voltage at the back of the alternator and at the fuel pump.  Had about .4 volt drop at the tank which is about the norm for the length of wire run to the pump from the alternator.  13.8 at the alternator and 13.4/13.5 at the pump.  Good luck!
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Re: Help with some Power Logger files Part 2!
« Reply #14 on: May 28 2016, 10:10:24 PM »
Hi, I'm bringing this back around because I never resolved the issue.
So, since my last post I have added a fuel pressure sensor, replaced the plugs, checked the coil pack, and had the alternator tested.
I have also reset all Tpro settings.
(They are under the attachment "Mine may 25 2016.bin") :rofl:
I have also included a couple of Powerlogger run files where you can see the AFR jump up when I get into it.
I am wondering If I have a setting wrong in the AFR tracking section, or if it is an overlap from the Part throttle/ cruise tracking section that is causing this issue?
For those that don't want to look at the bin for my settings...
Here are the AFR basic settings.
Min TPS  3.5
Min RPM 3200
Min Load 166.4
Gain 5.2
AFR 11.8 2000 to 5000 Rpm 11.5 after

Here are the PT Tracking settings
Idle TPS 0.500
Idle Rpm 1408
Idle A/F 13.5
Cruise TPS 1.840
Cruise Rpm 2560
Cruise Load 91.0
Cruise A/F 14.7
Lead Load 84.5
Lean Delay 10.0
Lean A/F 15.0
Gain 5.0
Enabl Dly 50

Tune high Load table is all 0%

Thanks.
Cheers,
Paul
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