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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #30 on: March 30 2021, 04:00:34 PM »
You are sneaking up on it, Phil.  Will not be long now :)
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #31 on: March 31 2021, 02:33:46 PM »
I'm hoping so! The aluminum heads are already paid for, just not shipped yet. They will be here soon though. My only thoughts now are where to buy headers, because my stock ones are cracked beyond repair(cause for my constant lean O2 readings) and where to find an external 3" downpipe. I'm also on the market for a really good external WG that will fit whatever 3" external dp I find. My mind is made up on the downpipe route, so suggesting internal or otherwise will be pointless. Lol. I've always liked the external WG setup. I plan to continue to run the coil pack and module from Highway Stars. I've been looking at this https://rjcracing.com/product/intercoolers/ic-315-xtf/ for the intercooler of choice. I like this design because they have other coolers in mind in regards to airflow. I'm still debating the throttlebody side of things, rather going 62mm or 70mm. All of this is exciting to me and I'm really happy to share this build with you guys. I have other ideas as far as parts I'm looking into, but I will leave it here for now. 

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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #32 on: March 31 2021, 07:47:53 PM »
I would suggest going to the 70mm tb as it will not require an adapter to jump down to 62.

On the intercooler, it has been demonstrated by a number of people that are knocking on the door to the 8 second quarter that a PTE stock location IC will work just as well as the big front mounts and it will have better throttle response in normal driving.

During a run, the ic is not exposed to air flow long enuf to provide any cooling by air flow.  It serves as a big heat sink to pull the heat out of the charged air.  Cooling comes into effect as one is driving after the run and air flow is passing thru the IC removing the heat from the fins/tubes.  In fact a couple of guys have proven the fact by stuff the intake with towels and making a run which did not improve over the unplugged runs.

Now, if you were road racing continually, it would cool some, but, you would have to reduce the boost a lot to keep from overheating the engine oil and blowing the engine....in a ten second run, the core just does not have time to be cooled.  If you are spraying alky, this further reduces the need for giant intercoolers as the alky cools the air down a lot by itself.....che mical intercooling if you will.

Added to say, the front mount will cool down a bit faster after a run on the street from more air flow to cool it down but this does not help during the run.  It will also keep the AC from working as well when sitting at lights or after a run because of the hot air going across the AC condenser.

The PTE IC is very expensive compared to the GN1 unit.  They tell me the PTE is better...but, if you are only running, tens, it may not be enough better to justify the price.  The really fast guys do some porting on the inlet side coming from the turbo to reduce pressure drop.

Dan (Grumpy) can give you more information as Melissa has been running a slic for years now and was knocking on an 8 the last time I heard.
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #33 on: April 01 2021, 11:21:15 AM »
Thank you for the reply! I had read up on the slics vs the front mounts. I was only looking at the front mounts to free up some engine compartment space, and with the pricing of the slics, I figured it wouldn't hurt. As stupid as it sounds, i really wasn't looking at the IC from a performance standpoint because any aftermarket unit should probably flow better than stock. Lol. 

Yeah Grump and Melissa has that car flying!! I love the KISS method approach they took with it as well. Kudos for sure to them

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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #34 on: April 01 2021, 01:58:26 PM »
I admit, it's nice to be able to change the belt without any hassle :D   Other than potentially running hotter with a front mount, the potential of having a bit slower throttle response is the only other downside that I see.
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #35 on: April 01 2021, 04:35:20 PM »
Gotcha. I'll weigh the options as I approach the the ending. I'm in a good place when the only thing I'm searching for is an intercooler. Lol. I'm ordering a front cover soon as well as some other needed parts. The list is quite long to say the least.

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« Reply #36 on: April 01 2021, 06:13:55 PM »
If you are like me, it will keep getting longer....not as bad as an engine swap to a different type of engine, but, still...that itch to replace is hard to cure LOL
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #37 on: April 06 2021, 02:45:25 PM »
Yeah I'm noticing that. I'm debating doing something different with the vacuum block, ground locations, etc

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« Reply #38 on: April 06 2021, 03:36:06 PM »
Lol...infected!
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« Reply #39 on: April 07 2021, 01:52:27 PM »
LMAO!!!! Most definitely 

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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #40 on: April 29 2021, 02:45:19 PM »
Things aren't looking good, as I've purchased a set of aluminum heads from Champion at the end of January and I still haven't received them. Luckily for me I'm dealing with Bison and he's been actively all over this as he's the one I paid the invoice to. Fingers crossed this gets sorted out soon.

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« Reply #41 on: April 29 2021, 09:01:58 PM »
it's standard with Champion.  I think one of the guys passed away and that is not helping
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #42 on: May 03 2021, 09:14:19 AM »
Yup, he passed away a year ago I believe. 

The heads showed up this past Friday!!! Yay. I'm debating on getting them ported

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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #43 on: May 03 2021, 01:28:51 PM »
Won't do anything unless you are aiming for the 9s
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Re: Update on future build
« Reply #44 on: May 03 2021, 04:25:39 PM »
Quote from: phil_long
 I'm debating on getting them ported
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