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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: Ttype83 on June 29 2006, 08:56:48 PM

Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on June 29 2006, 08:56:48 PM: Pulled IC to clean & found....

That the new turbo to IC hose already had black oil in it. I pulled the filter hose off and checked the wheel from there. Little to no in/out play, but has up/down play. IF I push up on wheel and spin I can hear the fins slightly hitting the housing and there is black oil on this side. I didn't pull the exhuast side. Guess sitting mostly for the last ten years wasn't good for it.

I'm borrowing a stock turbo from a friend (Chris from TBS) while I decide on a turbo.. I'll get back under the car this Sunday and pull the TC cover off and see if I have a stock TC..this will decide on the size of turbo I go.. Thinking of the GT3161E, GT6152 or what is this GT3255????? I already have 50lb injectors and a razor kit to support a larger turbo. Later I'll upgrade the IC to a stretch stock location..I know it's a interheater..j ust don't want to go front mount.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on June 29 2006, 10:59:40 PM: Mua hahaha, I knew it wouldnt take you long. Your sooo right, "the fun begins"!

What kind of fun are you having with it so far?
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Recklessrob on June 30 2006, 12:59:59 AM: At least you caught it early before things had gotten worse,
and you have a stock turbo to drive on in the interim. :prayer: :psix;
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on June 30 2006, 09:21:09 AM: No I'm not having fun...OK some fun... Yes I'm glad I had another to put on, I had 2 people offer me stockers while I decide on a turbo. Tested the TC stall last night..it's a stocker. I didn't catch the 83's turbo going out in time...it was ugly
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Post by: Ttype83 on June 30 2006, 11:01:55 AM: I called limited talked to Chopper..he said TA49 or TE44 would be best for my car. He did not Recommend a GT series turbo. So I'm leaning towards the 44...but I have time to think about it..My trip to Seattle just got canx so I have a couple of days off...Friday night T&T...oil leak isn't to bad...thinking of going, it's 2 hours there or am I pushing my luck :dunno:
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Post by: Be4u on June 30 2006, 12:06:50 PM: IMHO, calling Limit and talking to Chopper is wise. Great people.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: 87natty on June 30 2006, 01:06:02 PM: I totally imagine Chopper as this rube with one huge tooth. Hence the name.

Any reason not to use the GT series turbo?
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on June 30 2006, 03:35:23 PM: Quote from: "87natty @ Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:06 pm"
I totally imagine Chopper as this rube with one huge tooth. Hence the name.

Any reason not to use the GT series turbo?

LOL I can picture that..I didn't have him explain wy it wasn't good for me.
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: DCEPTCN on June 30 2006, 03:42:43 PM: 'Fun' with a TR....now there's a fantasy of mine. I wouldn't let the TC limit your choice on a turbo....heck, Pat's has some strong 12"s (2800 stall or so) for under $300. Just a thought. If'n you find other parts that ain't doing so well, ask us first....betwe en us, we've likely got an entire car worth os spare parts. If I've got anything of use to you, it's yours.
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on June 30 2006, 03:59:27 PM: Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:42 pm"
'Fun' with a TR....now there's a fantasy of mine. I wouldn't let the TC limit your choice on a turbo....heck, Pat's has some strong 12"s (2800 stall or so) for under $300. Just a thought. If'n you find other parts that ain't doing so well, ask us first....betwe en us, we've likely got an entire car worth os spare parts. If I've got anything of use to you, it's yours.

Thanks that means a lot...Wife has money, I don't..lol
I found a cam sensor for CHEAP that I'll might get too, mine is ticking. I may steal the 10.4mm wires off the 83 since it's sitting and put the old wires back on it.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: ledzeppac on June 30 2006, 09:52:19 PM: And when you have a problem ask us...

so we can laugh at you and explain that we have the exact same problem and can't help you!
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on June 30 2006, 09:59:18 PM: Yeah lepizzle, if Jim has a problem I'm SURE he'll run to us first. LoL.

Jim, Cruising the Coast is the first week in OCT. http://cruisinthecoast.com/
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: TSM Girl on July 01 2006, 12:28:32 AM: Quote from: "Be4u @ Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:59 pm"

Jim, Cruising the Coast is the first week in OCT. http://cruisinthecoast.com/

That looks real cool and fun.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on July 01 2006, 10:34:11 AM: "cool and fun" is an understatement .

it's like, every car you can imagine shows up. Cars that shoot flames, straight up illegal race cars, old tyme cars, modern cars, everyone does burnouts...peo ple line the streets and it looks like Mardi Gras, fat tuesday, Canal street in New Orleans. People come from all over America for this.
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Post by: TSM Girl on July 01 2006, 11:34:39 AM: I am sure it is an understatement . Just wish It was a little closer. It is a 8 hour ride from our house to there. It would be cool to do, We would of brought his and mine.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 01 2006, 12:02:06 PM: Quote from: "ledzeppac @ Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:52 pm"
And when you have a problem ask us...

so we can laugh at you and explain that we have the exact same problem and can't help you!

That's Fun..gave me a good laugh :rofl;

Robert I'll add it to my events.... Sept 10 Zcar event reyonlds, 3,4 Nov Reyonlds BOP
Can't remember how long it took me to get there..All I remember is I could ONLY get COUNTRY music for most of the drive :vom:
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on July 01 2006, 03:12:05 PM: Maybe one year we'll all get together down here and have a ball! Hopefully I'll get some videos so y'all can see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 06 2006, 10:33:21 PM: Recieved to turbo in the mail yesterday from Chris Garrett..Start ed about 7:30pm or so removing the old turbo...quit at 10:30pm...turbo out..new turbo just sitting on the engine..Do you know how hard it is to change turbos without removing the bracket... I DO.. Worked on it for about 1 hour tonight when I got home..turbo is bolted to bracket and uppipe, oil line on...I quit for the night...
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on July 07 2006, 02:23:53 AM: gawd Jim, take the bracket off....it's easy! I like swapping turbos. Hate attaching the oil drain.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Turbogn86 on July 07 2006, 03:07:08 AM: TE-44
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 07 2006, 10:05:54 AM: Quote from: "Turbogn86 @ Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:07 am"
TE-44

No stocker..need to base line the car, then when it's tuned and running good we will see how far I go
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Turbogn86 on July 07 2006, 05:42:32 PM: o i c, well when u get a baseline, THEN get the 44
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: ledzeppac on July 07 2006, 06:07:29 PM: yah the oil line is fun
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Recklessrob on July 07 2006, 08:47:01 PM: Jim, with what you have, I think that a stock turbo is a waste of time.
You shoul've upgraded, and base lined with the new turbo. IMHO
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 07 2006, 10:29:08 PM: Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:47 pm"
Jim, with what you have, I think that a stock turbo is a waste of time.
You shoul've upgraded, and base lined with the new turbo. IMHO

I could not pass up the price for the stocker..shipp ing. I'm a firm believer that you need to base line first. I won't have upgraded the injectors if it wasn't for the drive and they are the orginals. I'm still on the fence about the turbo..I have time. I have no real goal for this car. I do for the 83..I want to get booted from the track for no roll bar..a heafty goal for a carb car...
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Racer X on July 07 2006, 11:25:36 PM: Oil drain goes on first...no drama.
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Recklessrob on July 08 2006, 12:23:29 AM: Quote from: "Ttype83 @ Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:29 pm"
Quote from: "Recklessrob @ Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:47 pm"
Jim, with what you have, I think that a stock turbo is a waste of time.
You shoul've upgraded, and base lined with the new turbo. IMHO

I could not pass up the price for the stocker..shipp ing. I'm a firm believer that you need to base line first. I won't have upgraded the injectors if it wasn't for the drive and they are the orginals. I'm still on the fence about the turbo..I have time. I have no real goal for this car. I do for the 83..I want to get booted from the track for no roll bar..a heafty goal for a carb car...

I'd like to see that too. Just because of the challenge and that its different. :supz:
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: 87natty on July 08 2006, 01:34:37 AM: Work the shit out of that turbo!
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 10 2006, 10:43:35 PM: Stocker is on...damn oil return is leaking..guess I should have put a gasket on it..lol
I'll fix it tomorrow..16ps i boost..going for more tomorrow and track on FRIDAY.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on July 11 2006, 12:15:38 AM: now you gotta wrestle with it again. I hate that damn line
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Ttype83 on July 11 2006, 02:16:36 PM: Quote from: "Be4u @ Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:15 pm"
now you gotta wrestle with it again. I hate that damn line

It's not that hard..the bolt on the engine side is the hardest part...Waiting for it to cool off to work on it
Title: Re: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: DCEPTCN on July 11 2006, 02:26:35 PM: The oil return line (as well as the headers) is my least favorite thing to have to do on the car....but I have to admit that I'm an idiot and never thought of doing it first like Greg said.
Title: And the Fun (upgrades) begin
Post by: Be4u on July 11 2006, 04:45:16 PM: I gotta admit, after a few times I'm pretty good at getting the return line to line up. Be careful with that gasket!
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Post by: Ttype83 on July 12 2006, 09:13:54 PM: I fixed it..had to mod a gasket from my 83 oil return line.