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Title: Widebands
Post by: daveismissing on October 07 2017, 10:07:50 AM: 'thought this was interesting:
http://www.ecotrons.com/technology/bosch_lsu_49_is_superior_to_lsu_42_sensors/ (http://www.ecotrons.com/technology/bosch_lsu_49_is_superior_to_lsu_42_sensors/)
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2017, 10:18:48 AM: The 4.9 is good stuff.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2017, 12:03:51 PM: it's rather confusing as a number of companies offer controllers wtih the 4.9.

I notice PLX has a set up for $190 bucks while other people sell the sensor alone for that price...and others for about $120????

This bunch, I did not see a price...stress es the Bosch CJ125 chip. Guess I will have to do more research to see if anyone has put up an non-slanted comparison
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2017, 12:21:14 PM: It's a $70ish dollar sensor Steve. It's better than the 4.2 but not ntk.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2017, 02:03:51 PM: I did not see one that price...but I saw a lot of variation.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: good2win22 on October 07 2017, 02:15:47 PM: AEM uses the 4.9 with their new controller. Can't remember what I paid for it but I do remember getting a replacement sensor to the door for $60ish.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2017, 02:25:02 PM: after reading a few sites, this seems to be the one to get for leaded gas or high temp life with a turbo

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/xrf/gshp/products_id/2337?gclid=Cj0KCQjwh_bLBRDeARIsAH4ZYENANqidnb9KvLr2ZP1tT6UBckn-GfsO68PgHg2kELlp80lMhEjCTkgaAhQ_EALw_wcB (https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/xrf/gshp/products_id/2337?gclid=Cj0KCQjwh_bLBRDeARIsAH4ZYENANqidnb9KvLr2ZP1tT6UBckn-GfsO68PgHg2kELlp80lMhEjCTkgaAhQ_EALw_wcB)

Add 50$ to the price to replace the Bosch sensor with the NTK production grade sensor. I have been running the NTK for years since I went thru three Innovate LC-1's. I fact, I have a replacement LC1 out in the shop some place that I never installed. Innovate is what convinced me to run open loop after having it quit at 28 psi of boost.

Expensive, but nothing compared to an engine..
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2017, 03:02:35 PM: Yes Steve can't beat the ngk afx with the ntk sensor. Ballenger Motorsports worked out a deal to keep producing the afx after ngk decided to go with a different unit. Ecm produces the afx and it still can be sent to ecm for an upgrade.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2017, 03:07:40 PM: https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?56106-Ngk-Afx-wideband (https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?56106-Ngk-Afx-wideband)

http://www.ecm-co.com/ (http://www.ecm-co.com/)
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2017, 04:47:22 PM: That was a good link!
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: daveismissing on October 07 2017, 05:19:48 PM: Quote from: nocooler on October 07 2017, 03:07:40 PM
https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?56106-Ngk-Afx-wideband (https://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?56106-Ngk-Afx-wideband)

http://www.ecm-co.com/ (http://www.ecm-co.com/)

Lots to sift thu there

Norbs blessed the NKG AFX years ago and we know he was fussy :)
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: nocooler on October 07 2017, 05:26:42 PM: I'd still like to see some powerlogger logs with the ngk afx and a denso nb o2 compared.
Title: Re: Widebands
Post by: Steve Wood on October 07 2017, 08:01:35 PM: Looks like I don't have any that I can say for certain. I seldom put much info on my saves and I have a jillion of files from other people. I haven't driven my GN in about three years because I got pissed at it from smoking so much, AC stopped working, and the alky went out.. need to pump the old gas out and freshen the tank up some