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Title: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: gusszgs on October 24 2018, 06:26:16 PM
The beginning of the “Bonny project “
I will elaborate soon
Title: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: larrym on October 24 2018, 10:52:21 PM
Sleeper


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Post by: good2win22 on October 25 2018, 06:34:34 AM
Definately a sleeper. Details on the plan please
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Post by: gusszgs on October 25 2018, 06:18:07 PM
Ok guys,
First I’ll apologize for holding off, as a couple of you were wondering what the heck I was doing.

Ok the plan is to make a “patina sleeper “
I’ve wanted to do a hybrid for about 7 yrs now I’m guessing. The is an ‘86 Bonneville 4 door with a NA V6 3.8 Buick, 200 3speed. Man whoever owned this car had to be a fussy old miser I’m guessing cause it is in prestine condition underneath, very solid car. It’s be oiled and the underside is perfect for this.
Yet the patina of the paint is absolutely hilarious....d ull in some spots, a few scratches n dings as one can imagine. The minimal rust is JUST surface, which I will leave (love it!) perfect for the “theme” here. It’s an fugly brown 😁
The interior is pretty much mint, carpet could use a light cleaning. It’s tan/light cream. Now get this guys, this car has 0 options (zero) not even pulse wipers, which is just fine with me lol
The odometer is showing 37000 Kms (roughly 20k Miles) I’m having a hard time believing it hasn’t rolled but, the more I dig, I’m begging to wonder if that IS original milage.

I was somewhat torn on going LS as everyone knows you can make stupid power fairly easily.
But I wanted this to be A “sleeper” so I’m going the LC2 route for the tamed volume lol. I want a street pounder that will get decent mileage and is sneaky quite.

At this stage I have the ‘86-‘87 Turbo 109 motor, with full engine harness and the Casper’s dash harness. A turbo Regal fuel tank, and complete Hooker CT exhaust. I have a BR 2004r from my Ltd I’ll use and am still hunting for a Gbody 8.5 rear to slap in. I will run a 3:42 gear of course.

The goal is to have a low 10 second “patina sleeper” in a 4 door with factory poncho hubcaps 😂

More pics and info to follow.
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Post by: Grumpy on October 25 2018, 07:03:54 PM
should be an easy swap. And will go like hell  :player: I like hybrids  :rock:
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Post by: daveismissing on October 25 2018, 07:30:05 PM
Guszz do you want a spectra pie plate tank- just keep a 1/4 tank in it?
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Post by: gusszgs on October 25 2018, 07:36:07 PM
Thanks Dan, the car is a lightweight too. lol
Had it on my car trailer and it pulled easier than my Ltd lol
Will be heavier with the TR driveline though.

I wanted something different in a hybrid that I haven’t seen done before, but I was stalled on what to use. This to me seemed to be a good candidate.
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Post by: Steve Wood on October 26 2018, 10:36:39 AM
Bag it!  :D
Title: Re: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: gusszgs on October 26 2018, 10:45:00 AM
  :rock:
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Post by: Steve Wood on October 26 2018, 10:46:46 AM
If the suspension is tight, it may well be the correct miles unless it has been replaced and that should be fairly obvious
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Post by: wmsonta on October 26 2018, 12:18:14 PM
I own a number of old low mileage cars. The average age of all my vehicles is, I believe, 38 yrs old. An accurate identification of mileage requires some effort. If op likes, I could go into some things.

First, cars produced after 1980 will have the modern 17 digit VIN and can be researched online. Free research online is mostly BS and will require an e-mail addy that can be spammed. Paid services (Carfax, etc) can tell you state info, when licensed etc.

I can go on?
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Post by: TexasT on October 26 2018, 01:53:39 PM
I've always looked at the brake pedal. Not a fool proof but if it is brand new you know it has been replaced.
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Post by: wmsonta on October 26 2018, 02:21:00 PM
looked at the brake pedal
That is one of the first for me also. General condition of the interior and original paint are up there.
If whatever is used to close the drivers door is new or well worn.
The odometer number alignment and no white lines between digits. If a single digit is misaligned or a white line means the odometer alignment thread is broken. Truly expensive cars, look for a speedometer change.
I, personally, want all prospects on a hoist. Verify oem shocks/exhaust.

However, one of the racers I help called last nite. He bought a Fox body for his 460 street/wife's car. Solid body for $300. He could not tell me the mileage, didn't matter.
HTH
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Post by: reality on October 26 2018, 03:28:40 PM
OTOH, I know where there is a GN with 64000 kilometres 38000 miles that you would swear had well over 200.000 miles on it. But yes the brake pedal was original.
Title: Re: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: gusszgs on October 26 2018, 03:31:44 PM
If the suspension is tight, it may well be the correct miles unless it has been replaced and that should be fairly obvious

Steve I drove the car a few times and was amazed at the feel😳...very tight steering (for that car) the doors and deck/hood shut very reminiscent of showroom. The truck floor absolutely blew me away when I lifted up the liner. The brake pad has some wear, but some of these old codgers would tend to ride or rest their foot on the pedal lol
I’ll keep digging for signs, regardless if it is 137k I’m not bent about it. It’s in very solid shape for being in the rust belt.
It’s so fugly,  it’s cute lol
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Post by: Forzfed on October 26 2018, 03:51:02 PM
I've always looked at the brake pedal. Not a fool proof but if it is brand new you know it has been replaced.
There is a big difference between my low milage T and my high milage one.  The low milage one still has the dull leather wrap steering wheel.  The seats are much firmer, everything looks new and as Steve mentioned the ride is much tighter.
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Post by: xpander343 on October 26 2018, 07:39:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing you terrorizing barrie with that thing when it's all done.
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 06:53:15 AM
Guszz do you want a spectra pie plate tank- just keep a 1/4 tank in it?


Dave, I'll be going with a TR tank as I've already picked one up off Kevin
Title: Re: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 07:28:31 AM
Couple more pics.
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 07:32:24 AM
Few more
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 07:34:09 AM
Had the correct trans cross member blasted and powder coated
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 07:42:04 AM
More
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Post by: Steve Wood on October 27 2018, 09:20:23 AM
The upholstery does not look like a high mileage car
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 10:12:31 AM
I agree Steve, it’s seems too clean, especially for that light colour. I will do some serious underside investigation of the suspension ect in the spring.
The car is stored now. I will work through the winter months collecting the required parts.
I’ll snap a pic of the odometer, maybe that will be an indication for the “private eyes”
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 10:32:31 AM
One of the odo
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Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 10:37:15 AM
Judging by alignment I’d say it’s 137k but I’m not an odometer expert reading these things.

Not sure why 3 pics posted, as I only selected the one. Kinda frustrating posting pics here.
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Post by: wmsonta on October 27 2018, 05:01:01 PM
The zero is not centered yet, it should bring the 7 up with it. That is the way it works. 4 of the 5 numbers are aligned, the 5th will probably align in .1 km.

There is a fine plastic thread that keeps the rollers aligned. Nearly all odometers that roll over 100k will pull the thread loose.

If this car has 23k mi or 85k mi, it is about as clean as it gets for light colored interior. The floor pan  appears excellent. Are the driver door hinge pins/bushings tight?


Most do not start with a car this solid.JMO
Title: Re: New Hybrid coming 😁
Post by: gusszgs on October 27 2018, 07:13:33 PM
The zero is not centered yet, it should bring the 7 up with it. That is the way it works. 4 of the 5 numbers are aligned, the 5th will probably align in .1 km.

There is a fine plastic thread that keeps the rollers aligned. Nearly all odometers that roll over 100k will pull the thread loose.

If this car has 23k mi or 85k mi, it is about as clean as it gets for light colored interior. The floor pan  appears excellent. Are the driver door hinge pins/bushings tight?

Yes, I was check the DS door closer today and it opens and closes as perfect as one could expect. Very solid

Most do not start with a car this solid.JMO
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Post by: Steve Wood on October 27 2018, 09:35:23 PM
Seems like the perfect car to start with to me.  No collector value.  Solid car without a bunch of flex in it resulting from abuse....Who would ever expect a four door, Pontiac G Body to be a badazz in disguise?
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Post by: gusszgs on October 28 2018, 07:40:41 AM
Lol.....my thoughts exactly. Seen a lot of Hybrids done throughout the boards and have a ton of respect for most of them. But I wanted one that was different and unsuspecting. I’ve never seen a Bonny done in this fashion.
It MAY look so tame looking and quite, I may have get a personalized plate to antagonize.  :icon_lol:
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Post by: Steve Wood on October 28 2018, 08:48:34 AM
Granny?
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